Have you been affected economically by the Virus?

[Jimdamick]

My family is getting by relatively unscathed fortunately, but that doesn't seem to be the case for millions of other Americans.

https://www.yahoo.com/money/americans-hit-hard-by-layoffs-now-worry-about-homelessness-125735441.html

How are you all doing?

 

[Bakersfield]

Yes, I've been affected by the fact that the contruction projects that I was supposed to be starting on have been cancelled or put on hold.

For now we're doing fine, but 6 months to a year from now?

 

[Rob Roy]

Nearly every person on the planet has. The repercussions don't always hit everyone at the same time.

The USA has doubled down on debt. Trillions more federal reserve dollars means the purchasing power of that $20 in your wallet is going to shrink.
The power of money creation is the power to perpetuate hierarchy.

We're supposed to be fixated on "the virus" though and not pay any attention to the debt expansion. Seems to be working.

 

[Jimdamick]

A one time payment of $1200/$2400 too sustain an individual/family until the stay-at-home directives are lifted & life as we knew it supposedly resumes is not enough by any means at all.

You might just as well spit into the wind.

I'll bet dollars against doughnuts that 80% of the people that have filed for unemployment haven't seen a fucking dime yet, because I personally know how long it takes until you see a check in your mailbox once you enter the program & in this case, in an extremely overloaded system, if you see a check in less than 30 days, your blessed.

I know mostly everyone is hurting now, but if possible, if you have at this moment an extra $5 bucks these are some organizations that could use it.


CDC Foundation is an independent nonprofit created by Congress to mobilize philanthropic and private-sector resources to support the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s critical health protection work.



Feeding America is a nationwide network of more than 200 food banks that feed more than 46 million people through food pantries, soup kitchens, shelters, and other community-based agencies.



Meals on Wheels supports individuals who are elderly, disabled, chronically ill and home-bound by delivering nutritious meals, reducing hunger, improving health and promoting independence.



The National Domestic Workers Alliance has launched an emergency relief fund to support 10,000 domestic workers — nannies, house cleaners, and home care workers — facing job loss and exposure as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.



One Fair Wage Emergency Coronavirus Tipped and Service Worker Support Fund provides cash assistance to restaurant workers, car service drivers, delivery workers, personal service workers and more who need the money they aren’t getting to survive.

Do it, it will make you feel great, guaranteed


Peace & stay safe

 

[Jimdamick]

Yes, I've been affected by the fact that the contruction projects that I was supposed to be starting on have been cancelled or put on hold.

For now we're doing fine, but 6 months to a year from now?

You Union?

 

[Jimdamick]

On a brighter note, (I'm being sarcastic just incase u don't get it)

 

[Jimdamick]

Nearly every person on the planet has. The repercussions don't always hit everyone at the same time.

The USA has doubled down on debt. Trillions more federal reserve dollars means the purchasing power of that $20 in your wallet is going to shrink.
The power of money creation is the power to perpetuate hierarchy.

We're supposed to be fixated on "the virus" though and not pay any attention to the debt expansion. Seems to be working.

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Yup, Trump's Trillion $ expansion of the military combined with Tax cuts are really going to work out well now, right?
The self-proclamed Party of Fiscal Respectability, the GOP, by listening too & sucking Trumps dick has buried us
There's no way out on this one as far as I can see, economically speaking.
As my Father used to say too me as a child using an old Irish expression "we don't have a pot to piss in"
We're fucked, simply put.
MAGA

 

[Rob Roy]

Yup, Trump's Trillion $ expansion of the military combined with Tax cuts are really going to work out well now, right?
The self-proclamed Party of Fiscal Respectability, the GOP, by listening too & sucking Trumps dick has buried us
There's no way out on this one as far as I can see, economically speaking.
As my Father used to say too me as a child using an old Irish expression "we don't have a pot to piss in"
We're fucked, simply put.
MAGA

While I understand and agree with your disdain for Trump, I don't lay the blame for the economic situation on him. JFK was the last President who had any serious intentions of ending the Federal Reserve, and he ended up dead.

Ron Paul, wanted to change it, but if he had been elected, would have been killed too. He was effectively marginalized by a propaganda campaign and by his own inability to dumb down his message enough that the average 15 second attention span voter would vote for him.

If you don't have a pot to piss in, recycle an old plastic milk jug and piss in that. Then fill the jug with properly phed water and feed your plants in veg.
If you're on any kind of psychotropic drugs, your weed's thc will be like 47%. Not a particularly good foliar spray though!

 

[hanimmal]

While I understand and agree with your disdain for Trump, I don't lay the blame for the economic situation on him. JFK was the last President who had any serious intentions of ending the Federal Reserve, and he ended up dead.

Ron Paul, wanted to change it, but if he had been elected, would have been killed too. He was effectively marginalized by a propaganda campaign and by his own inability to dumb down his message enough that the average 15 second attention span voter would vote for him.

If you don't have a pot to piss in, recycle an old plastic milk jug and piss in that. Then fill the jug with properly phed water and feed your plants in veg.
If you're on any kind of psychotropic drugs, your weed's thc will be like 47%. Not a particularly good foliar spray though!

You keep pushing the 'ending of the fed' tea party nonsense. Why are you so hot to go back to the boom bust of the old days? Do you want to make it especially easy for wealthy businesses to bankrupt and take all of the handwork of the middle class every 2-4 years?

https://images.thinkadvisor.com/contrib/content/uploads/sites/415/2018/07/RecessionsStocks_Chart2.jpg

My family is getting by relatively unscathed fortunately, but that doesn't seem to be the case for millions of other Americans.

https://www.yahoo.com/money/americans-hit-hard-by-layoffs-now-worry-about-homelessness-125735441.html

How are you all doing?

So far so good here.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Nearly every person on the planet has. The repercussions don't always hit everyone at the same time.

The USA has doubled down on debt. Trillions more federal reserve dollars means the purchasing power of that $20 in your wallet is going to shrink.
The power of money creation is the power to perpetuate hierarchy.

We're supposed to be fixated on "the virus" though and not pay any attention to the debt expansion. Seems to be working

They somehow found $1.5 trillion for billionaires in 2017 when they passed the tax bill. They, again, somehow found another $2 trillion for bailouts of the richest companies.

They want to tell poor people it'll cripple the country to pay UBI or halt rent payments for a few months until this gets figured out

..while they hand out payments to the rich and already well off..

If scraps to poor people means less purchasing power, trillions more to a handful of oligarchs should too

Poor people get shafted while rich people walk away with the bank

 

[Rob Roy]

You keep pushing the 'ending of the fed' tea party nonsense. Why are you so hot to go back to the boom bust of the old days? Do you want to make it especially easy for wealthy businesses to bankrupt and take all of the handwork of the middle class every 2-4 years?

https://images.thinkadvisor.com/contrib/content/uploads/sites/415/2018/07/RecessionsStocks_Chart2.jpg

So far so good here.

Your questions are laden with presupposition, innuendo and are framed in a default designed to herd the answer.

I want to make it possible for people to peacefully self determine and use whichever means of trade individuals freely establish.

While I could offer a well thought discourse on the evils perpetuated by fiat money systems historically and presently, it might reveal my keen intellect and lead to doubt that I'm really a Sasquatch schooled in the art of surviving on days old carrion found by the side of highways in the wee hours of the morning. I'm a little reluctant to let that part go, I hope you understand.

 

[Rob Roy]

They somehow found $1.5 trillion for billionaires in 2017 when they passed the tax bill. They, again, somehow found another $2 trillion for bailouts of the richest companies.

They want to tell poor people it'll cripple the country to pay UBI or halt rent payments for a few months until this gets figured out

..while they hand out payments to the rich and already well off..

If scraps to poor people means less purchasing power, trillions more to a handful of oligarchs should too

Poor people get shafted while rich people walk away with the bank

So your answer isn't to STOP the phony money creation, it's to "gimmee some" ?

 

[Padawanbater2]

So your answer isn't to STOP the phony money creation, it's to "gimmee some" ?

This fabrication about the money being "phoney" only seems to apply when poor people need it. When rich people need money, our politicians, both left and right, seem to jump as high as they need them to to pull them through hard times. The idea of capitalism, that companies should fend for themselves and succeed or fail based on the outcomes of the free market, is essentially propped up by socialism. That if a capitalistic company that's built itself up to be too big to fail simply won't when it fucks up enough, like every other capitalistic company should, under such a system..

 

[Jimdamick]

So far so good here.

Very good too hear that

 

[hanimmal]

Your questions are laden with presupposition, innuendo and are framed in a default designed to herd the answer.

I want to make it possible for people to peacefully self determine and use whichever means of trade individuals freely establish.

While I could offer a well thought discourse on the evils perpetuated by fiat money systems historically and presently, it might reveal my keen intellect and lead to doubt that I'm really a Sasquatch schooled in the art of surviving on days old carrion found by the side of highways in the wee hours of the morning. I'm a little reluctant to let that part go, I hope you understand.

Unfortunately humanity has shown that we do need to have rules or else people would be buying nuclear waste and storing them in a property unsafely because they could make a lot of money doing that.

But I do understand and will re-release you back into the wild.

This fabrication about the money being "phoney" only seems to apply when poor people need it. When rich people need money, our politicians, both left and right, seem to jump as high as they need them to to pull them through hard times. The idea of capitalism, that companies should fend for themselves and succeed or fail based on the outcomes of the free market, is essentially propped up by socialism. That if a capitalistic company that's built itself up to be too big to fail simply won't when it fucks up enough, like every other capitalistic company should, under such a system..

False. True, but only because if they drop all of the employees of those companies are wiped out, forcing the hands of responsible legislators. True-ish. I think more the company knew enough of the system that they positioned themselves to not fail than what you said, but sure as long as the people end up doing far better off making the deal to keep those companies from folding by definition it is worth it.

All these things is the same nonsense that was being pushed during the 'Occupy Wall Street' trolling, which just happened to follow the 'Tea Party'.


Weird how it all just gets used over and over again.

 

[Rob Roy]

This fabrication about the money being "phoney" only seems to apply when poor people need it. When rich people need money, our politicians, both left and right, seem to jump as high as they need them to to pull them through hard times. The idea of capitalism, that companies should fend for themselves and succeed or fail based on the outcomes of the free market, is essentially propped up by socialism. That if a capitalistic company that's built itself up to be too big to fail simply won't when it fucks up enough, like every other capitalistic company should, under such a system..

Except a real free market ISN'T a particular system. It's the aggregate of all the many and varied transactions free and consensual people trading make of their own volition. It's driven by individuals and foments creativity and freedom.

Confusing a free market with the crimes of crony capitalism is so yesterday and not a good argument.

You should leave yesterday and Bernie behind, besides Bernie will be okay, he's got that $19 million in campaign funds to keep him well stocked with new hearts.

 

[Rob Roy]

Unfortunately humanity has shown that we do need to have rules or else people would be buying nuclear waste and storing them in a property unsafely because they could make a lot of money doing that.

But I do understand and will let this go.

Or maybe they'd "store" the nuclear uglies in Hiroshima or Nagasaki ?

Chose wisely.

 

[instg8ter]

Where do I start? Small business owner (res. Builder), have a job signed pre shutdown so as soon as they lift restrictions for building we are back. The question is for how long. Over 2 months 0 calls or leads. How long do you wait to even cold call anyone? I guess I am lucky that I have a number of regular customers that do projects every year, and am mostly word of mouth Advertising these days. But no guarantees.

The wife is right in the middle of it as the Human Resources assistant director in charge of Covid 19 contact for large venue and several sports teams. I am hearing everything before it plays out on TV. Garden has kept me out from under her feet while she works from home. She is stressed to the max and us being cooped up together for over a month now is not helping things.

Last but opposite of least my daughter is due with our third grandchild on May 23. No one is allowed in at this point here. Wife is going in hard quarantine starting this week so she can move over there after she gets home. Hospital Said she will most likely be released before the baby.

Out of all of this my fear is for them and their generation. The repercussions of this social experiment and the two alternate universes of thinking (seeing and hearing) that exist within it will be felt for decades to come!

 

[hanimmal]

Where do I start? Small business owner (res. Builder), have a job signed pre shutdown so as soon as they lift restrictions for building we are back. The question is for how long. Over 2 months 0 calls or leads. How long do you wait to even cold call anyone? I guess I am lucky that I have a number of regular customers that do projects every year, and am mostly word of mouth Advertising these days. But no guarantees.

The wife is right in the middle of it as the Human Resources assistant director in charge of Covid 19 contact for large venue and several sports teams. I am hearing everything before it plays out on TV. Garden has kept me out from under her feet while she works from home. She is stressed to the max and us being cooped up together for over a month now is not helping things.

Last but opposite of least my daughter is due with our third grandchild on May 23. No one is allowed in at this point here. Wife is going in hard quarantine starting this week so she can move over there after she gets home. Hospital Said she will most likely be released before the baby.

Out of all of this my fear is for them and their generation. The repercussions of this social experiment and the two alternate universes of thinking (seeing and hearing) that exist within it will be felt for decades to come!

That is a lot going on during this, I wish you and your family the best.

 

[UncleBuck]

You keep pushing the 'ending of the fed' tea party nonsense. Why are you so hot to go back to the boom bust of the old days? Do you want to make it especially easy for wealthy businesses to bankrupt and take all of the handwork of the middle class every 2-4 years?

https://images.thinkadvisor.com/contrib/content/uploads/sites/415/2018/07/RecessionsStocks_Chart2.jpg

So far so good here.

end the fed conspiracy theories are pushed by neo nazis and Jew haters, not tea partiers

Ron Paul fans are rabid racist neo nazis and Jew haters