Justin-case
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As much as I am ready for the stay at home orders to be loosened, I am rather enjoying watching the second amendment people accuse others of living in fear.
Lockdowns don't work.
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DIY-HP-LED
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They are panicking, Donald is a lost cause, the senate looks gone, the NRA fucked itself and are running for cover. Gun laws and hate speech laws are coming and they are gonna howl and dance like a red hot poker was shoved up their asses. I figure by november America will be ready to clean the house and senate of the GOP, the dying will be well underway in the red states soon and Trump has lost the senior citizen vote bigley. The oversight hearings into this fiasco should finish him and the republicans off, if they carry his water over this bullshit.
Rob Roy
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Do you find it ironic that in order to enforce a gun law, some "special people", (the ones who claim to have more rights than other people) will have to use guns against people offensively in a vain, misdirected and contradictory attempt to get people to stop using guns, offensively ?
Self evidently impossible.
I would really enjoy your astute and on point reply.
abandonconflict
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Look at all these memes by people who are afraid of the world having an economy.
rkymtnman
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maybe it's time to rethink your career path and stop whining??
Kassiopeija
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States.
They claim more rights than ordinairy humans.
They enforce their law - and they say this is the right way.
abandonconflict
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Your memes are even worse than Robroy's.
rkymtnman
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says the guy that posts a spongebob meme.
is it true your mattress is really boat cushions you've stolen over the years?
Fogdog
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Nope, they worked just fine. It's all covered in a different thread. This one is where we watch you melt down and turn into an anti-science bullshitter.
Grandpapy
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Dude, perhaps you have justifiable fears, talk to your State Representatives if you want change.
Lots of coastline here in CA. I'm sure your family would love it.
Fogdog
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I've asked AC what was going on in the Phillippines. Their reported rates of death due to the virus are startling low, compared to the US. He's never answered. I can only surmise that he didn't want to admit that the lockdown worked in the Phillippines. He seems to be a bit biased on this subject.
peterstoke
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No lol Density explains why objects fall to the ground. An object heavier than air will fall while a helium balloon which is lighter than air will rise into the sky and fly away
peterstoke
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All of the hospitals are empty, they were telling us on the news there was a pandemic and everyone's dying but that's not the case
Fogdog
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Could you put some names to who "they" are?
VILEPLUME
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peterstoke
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you know lol the news reporters that are telling us we should stay indoors... but at the end of the day those news reporters have a script to read and if they don't read it they get the sack lol
peterstoke
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honestly guys it's all fake, they just want to control us and lock us down. they are showing us who's boss.
jimihendrix1
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Many hospitals appear “empty” because they have shut down elective surgeries, routine health maintenance visits, are not allowing visitors, are not running actual COVID-19 tests at their location, entire departments have been closed, and healthcare professionals have been sent home. They have switched to telemedicine for virtual appointments.
They just closed 1 of out 2 hospitals in Ashland, Ky. Bellefonte Hospital shut down April 30. KDMC is still open.
Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital officially closed
An agreement between OLBH and King’s Daughters Medical Center is also providing KDMC with access to OLBH’s facilities and equipment in the event the area suffers a surge of COVID-19 cases.
Elective surgeries are really the bread and butter of most hospitals, most health systems, most primary care practitioners in our state,” said Marianne Udow-Phillips, executive director The Center for Health Research Transformation, which helps translate factual scientific information and studies for policy makers and the public.
“Even though we’ve had a spike, especially in some communities, in coronavirus cases, they’re not nearly enough to replace all those elective procedures that were occurring before this,” Udow-Phillips continued.
All outpatient procedures and most in-office visits are being replaced by televisits, and that may be something that sticks beyond the height of the pandemic. People are nervous about going to the hospital, even for things like child birth. Emergency room intake is way down because people are avoiding hospitals and also because fewer are driving, so there are fewer crashes.
The biggest news on hospital employment in Michigan comes out of the Detroit area, where Beaumont Health laid off 2,485 workers and permanently eliminated 450 jobs; and Henry Ford Health System temporarily laid off 2,800.
In Grand Rapids, Mary Free Bed Rehabilitation Hospital put about 400 employees, approximately 20% of its workforce, on temporary furlough as it struggles with COVID-19-related budget shortfalls. Officials say they will keep providing for those workers by continuing their insurance coverage and supplementing any government assistance so they make 75% of their regular pay.
Trinity Health Systems, which owns Mercy Health Saint Mary’s in Grand Rapids and the Hackley Campus in Muskegon, furloughed 10% of its staff.
Bronson Hospital in Kalamazoo has a 50% revenue loss and is planning hundreds of temporary layoffs.
Metro Health-University of Michigan Health in Wyoming has made no public announcement of cuts, but it is unlikely any hospital will remain unscathed.
Spectrum Health in Grand Rapids has not announced layoffs, but executives are taking pay cuts, including a 40% pay reduction for CEO Tina Freese Decker.
“Every hospital everywhere in the country is struggling right now,” Udow-Phillips said.
But one thing is clear: Hospitals are not struggling because the coronavirus is somehow failing to live up to the hype.
“We have no data to say the virus is not as serious as we thought it was. In fact, all of the data we have coming into us is saying the virus is very serious,” Udow-Phillips she said.
Udow-Phillips predicts that until there is a vaccine, it is likely that hospitals will continue to struggle.
They just closed 1 of out 2 hospitals in Ashland, Ky. Bellefonte Hospital shut down April 30. KDMC is still open.
Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital officially closed
An agreement between OLBH and King’s Daughters Medical Center is also providing KDMC with access to OLBH’s facilities and equipment in the event the area suffers a surge of COVID-19 cases.
Elective surgeries are really the bread and butter of most hospitals, most health systems, most primary care practitioners in our state,” said Marianne Udow-Phillips, executive director The Center for Health Research Transformation, which helps translate factual scientific information and studies for policy makers and the public.
“Even though we’ve had a spike, especially in some communities, in coronavirus cases, they’re not nearly enough to replace all those elective procedures that were occurring before this,” Udow-Phillips continued.
All outpatient procedures and most in-office visits are being replaced by televisits, and that may be something that sticks beyond the height of the pandemic. People are nervous about going to the hospital, even for things like child birth. Emergency room intake is way down because people are avoiding hospitals and also because fewer are driving, so there are fewer crashes.
The biggest news on hospital employment in Michigan comes out of the Detroit area, where Beaumont Health laid off 2,485 workers and permanently eliminated 450 jobs; and Henry Ford Health System temporarily laid off 2,800.
In Grand Rapids, Mary Free Bed Rehabilitation Hospital put about 400 employees, approximately 20% of its workforce, on temporary furlough as it struggles with COVID-19-related budget shortfalls. Officials say they will keep providing for those workers by continuing their insurance coverage and supplementing any government assistance so they make 75% of their regular pay.
Trinity Health Systems, which owns Mercy Health Saint Mary’s in Grand Rapids and the Hackley Campus in Muskegon, furloughed 10% of its staff.
Bronson Hospital in Kalamazoo has a 50% revenue loss and is planning hundreds of temporary layoffs.
Metro Health-University of Michigan Health in Wyoming has made no public announcement of cuts, but it is unlikely any hospital will remain unscathed.
Spectrum Health in Grand Rapids has not announced layoffs, but executives are taking pay cuts, including a 40% pay reduction for CEO Tina Freese Decker.
“Every hospital everywhere in the country is struggling right now,” Udow-Phillips said.
But one thing is clear: Hospitals are not struggling because the coronavirus is somehow failing to live up to the hype.
“We have no data to say the virus is not as serious as we thought it was. In fact, all of the data we have coming into us is saying the virus is very serious,” Udow-Phillips she said.
Udow-Phillips predicts that until there is a vaccine, it is likely that hospitals will continue to struggle.
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peterstoke
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But isn't that the opposite of what they were telling us on the news??? they were making out that thousands of people are dying and it was a pandemic... surely if people were sick they would be going to hospitals??