Current Culture and AN line issues due to high Oxygen level

[kratosxxl]

So the main reason im looking in to AN line specifically to Big Bud is that id has lot of Amino Acids in it and those are crucial for plant grow/development, only thing in GH that has Amino looks like is FloraciusPlus , and i heard mixed reviews on it. I have friend who grow commercially in Coco and swear by big bud, bud blood and overdrive , for them it is a must. And since all 3 is designed for hydro u can get maximum out of those BUT again i was told CC2 system is highly oxygenated and can cause problem . Also i dont like to keep organic stuff in hydro but u cant really get away with 0 organic if u plan on getting high yield on insane quality. Look at the CC2 feed line 0 organic poor yield okay quality but kind of guarantee harvest since u need to run UC roots in ur system. And again i 100 % agree that u DONT need anything but base nutes + calmag and Southern AG (any type of Bac bacteria) and u WILL get a great grow.

 

[Airwalker16]

so i was thinking to use 2 x 30 gall buckets make nutes , pump out water from res , add back 60 gal so roots have food and water , then make another batch of 60 gall and fill it up , r u using someking of calculator to get this nice looking chart ? also is this still apply if i user tap ?

Oh no... Don't tell me you use tap. If you want success with rdwc, you NEED RO.

 

[kratosxxl]

Oh no... Don't tell me you use tap. If you want success with rdwc, you NEED RO.

I know RO is good option ,RODI is a better option but TAP is not that scary , it has lot of minerals and most of them are Cal Mag and just a bit of fluoride maybe , i used tap on my previous run , Veg was awesome , flower did great growing and bud size until i got gnats thats were everything ended

 

[kratosxxl]

and one of the reasons for TAP, is not to waste that much water . in 120 gall system 10 week grow will use 3600 gallons of water (weekly water change) were ur water waste is 1:2 , u can get RO filter that does 1:1 that will save a lot VS 1200 Gall of 3 stage cleaned TAP
So i can cancel the whole Hydro thing get a coco, water them once every 3 days using TAP and get almost Commercial yileds but nutes are expensive cuz there are lot of them and i dont need a second full time job , thats why i like hydro its simple

 

[kratosxxl]

So anyone have any experience with AN line in high oxygenated system ?

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

I use a UC6XL in my flower tent. I can tell you that even with the added oxygen you can easily get bacterial bloom even with a chiller. The blooms will be shown through an quick drop of pH

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

Hmmm.... You could, bit a single 6" is all you need for any size plant. The extra hydroton in an 8 or 10inch netpot lid is pointless. It may anchor your plant a bit better but not really. You could grow a tree in a 4" or hell a 2" netpot for that matter. Once the root balls come down into the container and balls up, it's not going anywhere.
Also just some advice, ditch the ridiculously expensive AN and use GH 3part FloraTrio and their CaliMagic line of CalMag and you'll be equally as happy with your results. If you do decide to, I've got a chart for you to use that will guarantee you happy girls all the way through. I assume you're using RO water.

I have had success with 5.5" net pots but I do prefer the 8"

 

[kmog33]

Sorry I only read the op but this sounds dumb. Almost impossible to have to much o2 in dwc. “Too much oxygen” is a cop out

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

Sorry I only read the op but this sounds dumb. Almost impossible to have to much o2 in dwc. “Too much oxygen” is a cop out

Too much oxygen is not really a bad thing unless you start colonizing bad bacteria. Use lots of beneficials and you'll be fine

 

[kmog33]

Too much oxygen is not really a bad thing unless you start colonizing bad bacteria. Use lots of beneficials and you'll be fine

Yeah, mycorhizos es bueno

 

[kratosxxl]

Too much oxygen is not really a bad thing unless you start colonizing bad bacteria. Use lots of beneficials and you'll be fine

what about using UC roots or Athena cleanse ? that works fine with GH entire series including floracous plus

 

[kratosxxl]

Too much oxygen is not really a bad thing unless you start colonizing bad bacteria. Use lots of beneficials and you'll be fine

or what beneficial u run ? Southern AG ?

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

I use Botanicare hydroguard and it works great

 

[kratosxxl]

I use Botanicare hydroguard and it works great

yeah thats a Southern AG but diluted already and thats kind of root rot prevention what about other nasty stuff that can grow ?

 

[Airwalker16]

and one of the reasons for TAP, is not to waste that much water . in 120 gall system 10 week grow will use 3600 gallons of water (weekly water change) were ur water waste is 1:2 , u can get RO filter that does 1:1 that will save a lot VS 1200 Gall of 3 stage cleaned TAP
So i can cancel the whole Hydro thing get a coco, water them once every 3 days using TAP and get almost Commercial yileds but nutes are expensive cuz there are lot of them and i dont need a second full time job , thats why i like hydro its simple

Here's the thing brother, if you get yourself a cheap quick, RO filtration setup for $100-200, you'll be able to just let your plants drink the res water down. I have never once done a "res change" because the system is balanced to where they drink it faster than it could even get gross and need changing. Using RO water ensures a clean slate, free of any pathogens or bacteria that couldn't ruin your run. 40gal setup in my 8- 5gal bucket and 8 gal res. 4 days later(in flower) it's literally almost empty, so it just gets refilled with new, fresh nutrient water.

 

[kratosxxl]

Sorry I only read the op but this sounds dumb. Almost impossible to have to much o2 in dwc. “Too much oxygen” is a cop out

the way the explained it is if u use AN line in CC2 due to high ammount of good bacteria is in Sensi bloom and big bug and sensizyme , u will have a good bacteria bloom and that will lead to troubles

 

[Airwalker16]

Yes changes ate an enormous waste of water and should be eliminated by designing the system with the right water volume, so it doesn't need to be done.

 

[kratosxxl]

Here's the thing brother, if you get yourself a cheap quick, RO filtration setup for $100-200, you'll be able to just let your plants drink the res water down. I have never once done a "res change" because the system is balanced to where they drink it faster than it could even get gross and need changing. Using RO water ensures a clean slate, free of any pathogens or bacteria that couldn't ruin your run. 40gal setup in my 8- 5gal bucket and 8 gal res. 4 days later(in flower) it's literally almost empty, so it just gets refilled with new, fresh nutrient water.

Im pretty sure u have great success with the way u grow , i prefer doing weekly change not to only refresh nutes but also to make sure whatever plants need to eat is available since i have no way on testing what exactly they need ? is it a N,K sulfur iron etc. And u lowering chances of growing stuff in ur res good or bad

 

[kratosxxl]

Yes changes ate an enormous waste of water and should be eliminated by designing the system with the right water volume, so it doesn't need to be done.

Trust me when i strated hydro i had same conversation with my friend and i was against water changes , but i learned in a hard way that u DO need to change water

 

[rkymtnman]

Trust me when i strated hydro i had same conversation with my friend and i was against water changes , but i learned in a hard way that u DO need to change water

alot of people like the no water change but i agree with you.