DIY Strip Build Help... Check me work please?

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firemarshall22

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Hey All,

NooB from San Diego, California here.
Been reading for weeks. Love this site. Thanks for all the time you all put in to helping others.
I think I have decided on strips and a driver for my grow and want to make sure I am not ordering the wrong things.
I have a 2ft x 3ft x 5ft tent.

I'd like to keep the heat down as much as possible, I don't want to have to pay for heatsinks and my tent and grow space is vertically challenged. Being able to grow my canopy very close to my led strips is a goal as I eventually want to grow 3 levels high, 40 inches of height each level.

The strips I have decided on are the single row 2ft H-influx L_06 3500k....SL-B8U3N80LAWW, from what I've understood, these strips typically run at 32w but as high as 36w each?

I plan to use 30w per sqft in flower, so looking for a total of 180w used. I want to keep them cool so I know I can Not run them 100%. So I am looking for at least 240w worth of strips and at 32w, it looks like I need 8 strips? Which would give me 256w total....... I am assuming running the strips at 75% capacity would keep them cool enough?

If I have this right so far... the driver I believe pairs with these 8 strips, that is dimmable, would be the HLG-240H-48A, correct?

If so, could I go smaller? and do 6 of these strips on a HLG-185H-48A driver? Still giving me about 180w and not maxing each strip out (don't want heat)

Any help/feedback greatly appreciated!
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

Well-Known Member
firemarshall22 said:
Hey All,

NooB from San Diego, California here.
Been reading for weeks. Love this site. Thanks for all the time you all put in to helping others.
I think I have decided on strips and a driver for my grow and want to make sure I am not ordering the wrong things.
I have a 2ft x 3ft x 5ft tent.

I'd like to keep the heat down as much as possible, I don't want to have to pay for heatsinks and my tent and grow space is vertically challenged. Being able to grow my canopy very close to my led strips is a goal as I eventually want to grow 3 levels high, 40 inches of height each level.

The strips I have decided on are the single row 2ft H-influx L_06 3500k....SL-B8U3N80LAWW, from what I've understood, these strips typically run at 32w but as high as 36w each?

I plan to use 30w per sqft in flower, so looking for a total of 180w used. I want to keep them cool so I know I can Not run them 100%. So I am looking for at least 240w worth of strips and at 32w, it looks like I need 8 strips? Which would give me 256w total....... I am assuming running the strips at 75% capacity would keep them cool enough?

If I have this right so far... the driver I believe pairs with these 8 strips, that is dimmable, would be the HLG-240H-48A, correct?

If so, could I go smaller? and do 6 of these strips on a HLG-185H-48A driver? Still giving me about 180w and not maxing each strip out (don't want heat)

Any help/feedback greatly appreciated!
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Yeah it sounds like you've got everything right. I'd go with the 240 driver you've selected. I'm using two of them (48B though), they're great.
 
Major Blazer

Major Blazer

Well-Known Member
firemarshall22 said:
Hey All,

NooB from San Diego, California here.
Been reading for weeks. Love this site. Thanks for all the time you all put in to helping others.
I think I have decided on strips and a driver for my grow and want to make sure I am not ordering the wrong things.
I have a 2ft x 3ft x 5ft tent.

I'd like to keep the heat down as much as possible, I don't want to have to pay for heatsinks and my tent and grow space is vertically challenged. Being able to grow my canopy very close to my led strips is a goal as I eventually want to grow 3 levels high, 40 inches of height each level.

The strips I have decided on are the single row 2ft H-influx L_06 3500k....SL-B8U3N80LAWW, from what I've understood, these strips typically run at 32w but as high as 36w each?

I plan to use 30w per sqft in flower, so looking for a total of 180w used. I want to keep them cool so I know I can Not run them 100%. So I am looking for at least 240w worth of strips and at 32w, it looks like I need 8 strips? Which would give me 256w total....... I am assuming running the strips at 75% capacity would keep them cool enough?

If I have this right so far... the driver I believe pairs with these 8 strips, that is dimmable, would be the HLG-240H-48A, correct?

If so, could I go smaller? and do 6 of these strips on a HLG-185H-48A driver? Still giving me about 180w and not maxing each strip out (don't want heat)

Any help/feedback greatly appreciated!
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Hey man, I have the H-Influx L_06's in 3500k (6 of them too, in a 27"x27" tent) - they're very nice strips, great choice. They're rated at 22.4v 1,430mAh nominal however so unless you were planning on wiring in series and parallel, you should opt for the HLG-185H-24. You didn't mention wiring so I wasn't sure. Anyway regarding cooling, were you going to use c-channels at least? I have a couple spare strips I ran for seedlings on a 700mAh APC driver and they got fairly hot in completely open air. Also 1" extrusions in 24" (L) are only $4.50 at Heatsink USA - so $27 is not a big investment for a lot of piece of mind and a much much cooler tent.

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(btw if you're counting, there 8 heatsinks in there bc I also have 2 rows of 660nm red QB11's from HLG)
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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Major Blazer is right, wrong voltage. Those strips have a high max current capacity of 2200mA though. 1430mA just to get the nominal reading. Either an HLG-185H-24A or HLG-240H-24A would work. On a 185 the strips would be running just under 1 amp each. Given the high current for that strip, I'd opt for the bigger driver and dim it down if necessary. A 240 would run them around 1250mA, which is still under the nominal reading and way under the max.
 
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firemarshall22

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CaliWorthington said:
Yeah it sounds like you've got everything right. I'd go with the 240 driver you've selected. I'm using two of them (48B though), they're great.
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Ok, great.. glad I reached out. Thanks so much for the responses! @Major Blazer @CaliWorthington
Understand which driver now, thank you.
Going to get the HLG-240H-24A, seems it runs cooler. Does this type of driver let me dim it without adding components? Just turn a knob with a flat head screw driver type thing, right?
TBH my head is spinning about strips now. How many types of the H-influx single row 3500k strips are there? I just read in another forum about other ones lol Maybe they miswrote? I am just looking for the most efficient strips, I don't mind if they are a couple dollars more than others.
Am I getting the best/most efficient single row strips? 2ft H-influx L_06 3500k....SL-B8U3N80LAWW? Anyone confirm?
Any San Diego locals here recommend where to get quality clones?
Thank you thank you!
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

Well-Known Member
firemarshall22 said:
Ok, great.. glad I reached out. Thanks so much for the responses! @Major Blazer @CaliWorthington
Understand which driver now, thank you.
Going to get the HLG-240H-24A, seems it runs cooler. Does this type of driver let me dim it without adding components? Just turn a knob with a flat head screw driver type thing, right?
TBH my head is spinning about strips now. How many types of the H-influx single row 3500k strips are there? I just read in another forum about other ones lol Maybe they miswrote? I am just looking for the most efficient strips, I don't mind if they are a couple dollars more than others.
Am I getting the best/most efficient single row strips? 2ft H-influx L_06 3500k....SL-B8U3N80LAWW? Anyone confirm?
Any San Diego locals here recommend where to get quality clones?
Thank you thank you!
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Yes if you get the 24A version of the driver, you can dim it with a small screwdriver, no external wiring necessary. H-strips are a little more efficient than F-strips, but they don't have quite as many diodes, so you may need more of them. Then again, if you're going for single-row strips, the Q-series is the most efficient.
Here's an article that explains the plus and minus of different strips.

DIY LED Strip Build Designs for Samsung H-Series, F-Series, Q-Series, and Bridgelux EB Gen.2

I'm glad Major Blazer caught my mistake and you didn't order 48v drivers. Sorry about that. I didn't bother to look at the voltage column on first look.
 
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firemarshall22

Well-Known Member
CaliWorthington said:
Yes if you get the 24A version of the driver, you can dim it with a small screwdriver, no external wiring necessary. H-strips are a little more efficient than F-strips, but they don't have quite as many diodes, so you may need more of them. Then again, if you're going for single-row strips, the Q-series is the most efficient.
Here's an article that explains the plus and minus of different strips.

DIY LED Strip Build Designs for Samsung H-Series, F-Series, Q-Series, and Bridgelux EB Gen.2

I'm glad Major Blazer caught my mistake and you didn't order 48v drivers. Sorry about that. I didn't bother to look at the voltage column on first look.
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The best!
No apology - I multi-source everything haha
Thank you man!
@CaliWorthington
 
Barristan Whitebeard

Barristan Whitebeard

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firemarshall22 said:
This page on the link says the H-Influx use LM561C but the ones I am getting use 301B don't they? Super Confused! Is that page old/not updated possibly? @CaliWorthington
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Hey man, the Samsung H-series strips use LM561C diodes.

Samsung H-Influx strips use LM301B .

This similarity in names often confuses people. Add to that the resemblance in names between the Influx Linear series ( these strips predate the H-Influx series and use the significantly less efficient LM301A diodes) and H-Influx series (also sold under the name Influx Linear), and it's a wonder people can even find the strips they are looking for sometimes.
 
Major Blazer

Major Blazer

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Barristan Whitebeard said:
Hey man, the Samsung H-series strips use LM561C diodes.

Samsung H-Influx strips use LM301B .

This similarity in names often confuses people. Add to that the resemblance in names between the Influx Linear series ( these strips predate the H-Influx series and use the significantly less efficient LM301A diodes) and H-Influx series (also sold under the name Influx Linear), and it's a wonder people can even find the strips they are looking for sometimes.
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Bingo!

OP, make good use of data sheets and copy/paste part numbers into octopart bc even the damn part numbers resemble one another so much (even between families) that it can make you feel dyslexic when shopping around.
 
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