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Jimdamick

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That thing, that fucking it, that piece of human garbage named Donald J Trump running/ruining/destroying this country, this morning described as not acceptable a warning given by the top U.S. infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci yesterday about the dangers of reopening the economy too quickly.


"To me it's not an acceptable answer," Trump told reporters at the White House, noting he was surprised by the response Fauci gave to lawmakers in testimony to the U.S. Senate yesterday.

Why is it not acceptable?

Because "deep down in my gut, I know it will go away"?

It WILL NEVER GO AWAY, YOU FUCKING IMBECILE, UNTIL A VACINE IS DEVELOPED!!!!

Jesus Christ, of all the times in the History of the World & Mankind & the USA we have Trump leading us all straight to Hell.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Vitamin D Determines Severity in COVID-19: Researchers Urge Government to Change Advice

Trinity College Dublin researchers point to changes in government advice in Wales, England and Scotland.

Researchers from Trinity College Dublin are calling on the government in Ireland to change recommendations for vitamin D supplements.

A new publication from Dr. Eamon Laird and Professor Rose Anne Kenny, School of Medicine, and the Irish Longitudinal Study on Ageing (TILDA), in collaboration with Professor Jon Rhodes at University of Liverpool, highlights the association between vitamin D levels and mortality from COVID-19.

The authors of the article, just published in the Irish Medical Journal, analyzed all European adult population studies, completed since 1999, which measured vitamin D and compared vitamin D and death rates from COVID-19.

Vitamin D is produced in the skin from UVB sunlight exposure and is transported to the liver and then the kidney where it is changed into an active hormone that increases calcium transport from food in the gut and ensures calcium is adequate to keep the skeleton strong and free of osteoporosis.

But vitamin D can also support the immune system through a number of immune pathways involved in fighting SARS-CoV-2. Many recent studies confirm the pivotal role of vitamin D in viral infections.

This study shows that, counter intuitively, countries at lower latitude and typically sunny countries, such as Spain and Northern Italy, had low concentrations of vitamin D and high rates of vitamin D deficiency. These countries also experienced the highest infection and death rates in Europe.

The northern latitude countries of Norway, Finland, and Sweden, have higher vitamin D levels despite less UVB sunlight exposure, because supplementation and fortification of foods is more common. These Nordic countries have lower COVID-19 infection and death rates. The correlation between low vitamin D levels and death from COVID-19 is statistically significant.

The authors propose that, whereas optimizing vitamin D levels will certainly benefit bone and muscle health, the data suggests that it is also likely to reduce serious COVID-19 complications. This may be because vitamin D is important in regulation and suppression of the inflammatory cytokine response, which causes the severe consequences of COVID-19 and ‘acute respiratory distress syndrome’ associated with ventilation and death.

Professor Rose Anne Kenny said:

“In England, Scotland and Wales, public health bodies have revised recommendations since the COVID-19 outbreak. Recommendations now state that all adults should take at least 400 IU vitamin D daily. Whereas there are currently no results from randomized controlled trials to conclusively prove that vitamin D beneficially affects COVID-19 outcomes, there is strong circumstantial evidence of associations between vitamin D and the severity of COVID-19 responses, including death.”

“This study further confirms this association. We call on the Irish government to update guidelines as a matter of urgency and encourage all adults to take supplements during the COVID-19 crisis. Deficiency is frequent in Ireland. Deficiency is most prevalent with age, obesity, in men, in ethnic minorities, in people with diabetes, hypertension and in nursing homes.”

Dr. Eamon Laird added:

“Here we see observational evidence of a link of vitamin D with mortality. Optimizing vitamin D intake to public health guidelines will certainly have benefits for overall health and support immune function. Research like this is still exploratory and we need further trials to have concrete evidence on the level of vitamin D that is needed for optimal immune function. However, studies like this also remind us how low our vitamin D status is in the population (even in sunny countries) and adds further weight to some sort of mandatory vitamin D fortification policy. If the Nordic countries are allowed to do this, there is no reason Ireland, the UK or rest of Europe can’t either.”
 

Fogdog

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Vitamin D Determines Severity in COVID-19: Researchers Urge Government to Change Advice

Trinity College Dublin researchers point to changes in government advice in Wales, England and Scotland.

Researchers from Trinity College Dublin are calling on the government in Ireland to change recommendations for vitamin D supplements.

A new publication from Dr. Eamon Laird and Professor Rose Anne Kenny, School of Medicine, and the Irish Longitudinal Study on Ageing (TILDA), in collaboration with Professor Jon Rhodes at University of Liverpool, highlights the association between vitamin D levels and mortality from COVID-19.

The authors of the article, just published in the Irish Medical Journal, analyzed all European adult population studies, completed since 1999, which measured vitamin D and compared vitamin D and death rates from COVID-19.

Vitamin D is produced in the skin from UVB sunlight exposure and is transported to the liver and then the kidney where it is changed into an active hormone that increases calcium transport from food in the gut and ensures calcium is adequate to keep the skeleton strong and free of osteoporosis.

But vitamin D can also support the immune system through a number of immune pathways involved in fighting SARS-CoV-2. Many recent studies confirm the pivotal role of vitamin D in viral infections.

This study shows that, counter intuitively, countries at lower latitude and typically sunny countries, such as Spain and Northern Italy, had low concentrations of vitamin D and high rates of vitamin D deficiency. These countries also experienced the highest infection and death rates in Europe.

The northern latitude countries of Norway, Finland, and Sweden, have higher vitamin D levels despite less UVB sunlight exposure, because supplementation and fortification of foods is more common. These Nordic countries have lower COVID-19 infection and death rates. The correlation between low vitamin D levels and death from COVID-19 is statistically significant.

The authors propose that, whereas optimizing vitamin D levels will certainly benefit bone and muscle health, the data suggests that it is also likely to reduce serious COVID-19 complications. This may be because vitamin D is important in regulation and suppression of the inflammatory cytokine response, which causes the severe consequences of COVID-19 and ‘acute respiratory distress syndrome’ associated with ventilation and death.

Professor Rose Anne Kenny said:

“In England, Scotland and Wales, public health bodies have revised recommendations since the COVID-19 outbreak. Recommendations now state that all adults should take at least 400 IU vitamin D daily. Whereas there are currently no results from randomized controlled trials to conclusively prove that vitamin D beneficially affects COVID-19 outcomes, there is strong circumstantial evidence of associations between vitamin D and the severity of COVID-19 responses, including death.”

“This study further confirms this association. We call on the Irish government to update guidelines as a matter of urgency and encourage all adults to take supplements during the COVID-19 crisis. Deficiency is frequent in Ireland. Deficiency is most prevalent with age, obesity, in men, in ethnic minorities, in people with diabetes, hypertension and in nursing homes.”

Dr. Eamon Laird added:

“Here we see observational evidence of a link of vitamin D with mortality. Optimizing vitamin D intake to public health guidelines will certainly have benefits for overall health and support immune function. Research like this is still exploratory and we need further trials to have concrete evidence on the level of vitamin D that is needed for optimal immune function. However, studies like this also remind us how low our vitamin D status is in the population (even in sunny countries) and adds further weight to some sort of mandatory vitamin D fortification policy. If the Nordic countries are allowed to do this, there is no reason Ireland, the UK or rest of Europe can’t either.”
triggered

I actually never thought your crap about meditation was worth a loose stool too. It's just that I don't think anybody was harmed by it.
 

schuylaar

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Vitamin D Determines Severity in COVID-19: Researchers Urge Government to Change Advice

Trinity College Dublin researchers point to changes in government advice in Wales, England and Scotland.

Researchers from Trinity College Dublin are calling on the government in Ireland to change recommendations for vitamin D supplements.

A new publication from Dr. Eamon Laird and Professor Rose Anne Kenny, School of Medicine, and the Irish Longitudinal Study on Ageing (TILDA), in collaboration with Professor Jon Rhodes at University of Liverpool, highlights the association between vitamin D levels and mortality from COVID-19.

The authors of the article, just published in the Irish Medical Journal, analyzed all European adult population studies, completed since 1999, which measured vitamin D and compared vitamin D and death rates from COVID-19.

Vitamin D is produced in the skin from UVB sunlight exposure and is transported to the liver and then the kidney where it is changed into an active hormone that increases calcium transport from food in the gut and ensures calcium is adequate to keep the skeleton strong and free of osteoporosis.

But vitamin D can also support the immune system through a number of immune pathways involved in fighting SARS-CoV-2. Many recent studies confirm the pivotal role of vitamin D in viral infections.

This study shows that, counter intuitively, countries at lower latitude and typically sunny countries, such as Spain and Northern Italy, had low concentrations of vitamin D and high rates of vitamin D deficiency. These countries also experienced the highest infection and death rates in Europe.

The northern latitude countries of Norway, Finland, and Sweden, have higher vitamin D levels despite less UVB sunlight exposure, because supplementation and fortification of foods is more common. These Nordic countries have lower COVID-19 infection and death rates. The correlation between low vitamin D levels and death from COVID-19 is statistically significant.

The authors propose that, whereas optimizing vitamin D levels will certainly benefit bone and muscle health, the data suggests that it is also likely to reduce serious COVID-19 complications. This may be because vitamin D is important in regulation and suppression of the inflammatory cytokine response, which causes the severe consequences of COVID-19 and ‘acute respiratory distress syndrome’ associated with ventilation and death.

Professor Rose Anne Kenny said:

“In England, Scotland and Wales, public health bodies have revised recommendations since the COVID-19 outbreak. Recommendations now state that all adults should take at least 400 IU vitamin D daily. Whereas there are currently no results from randomized controlled trials to conclusively prove that vitamin D beneficially affects COVID-19 outcomes, there is strong circumstantial evidence of associations between vitamin D and the severity of COVID-19 responses, including death.”

“This study further confirms this association. We call on the Irish government to update guidelines as a matter of urgency and encourage all adults to take supplements during the COVID-19 crisis. Deficiency is frequent in Ireland. Deficiency is most prevalent with age, obesity, in men, in ethnic minorities, in people with diabetes, hypertension and in nursing homes.”

Dr. Eamon Laird added:

“Here we see observational evidence of a link of vitamin D with mortality. Optimizing vitamin D intake to public health guidelines will certainly have benefits for overall health and support immune function. Research like this is still exploratory and we need further trials to have concrete evidence on the level of vitamin D that is needed for optimal immune function. However, studies like this also remind us how low our vitamin D status is in the population (even in sunny countries) and adds further weight to some sort of mandatory vitamin D fortification policy. If the Nordic countries are allowed to do this, there is no reason Ireland, the UK or rest of Europe can’t either.”
Weird. You'd think that the sunny countries wouldn't be vitamin d deficit. I wonder why?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Weird. You'd think that the sunny countries wouldn't be vitamin d deficit. I wonder why?
People wear more clothes these days and stay inside with AC to avoid the sun and heat, generally people are adapted to where they lived in evolutionary terms, the closer to the equator the darker the skin. Vitamin D is so important for human survival it turned people white when they moved to upper latitudes!
 

Justin-case

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People wear more clothes these days and stay inside with AC to avoid the sun and heat, generally people are adapted to where they lived in evolutionary terms, the closer to the equator the darker the skin. Vitamin D is so important for human survival it turned people white when they moved to upper latitudes!
Superior sunshine absorption
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here is a fiasco in the making.
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Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down state's stay-at-home order

(CNN)The Wisconsin Supreme Court has overturned the state's stay-at-home order, ruling it "unlawful" and "unenforceable" in a high-profile win for the state's Republican-led Legislature.

In a 4-3 decision Wednesday, the court ruled that Democratic Gov. Tony Evers' administration overstepped its authority when the state Department of Health Services extended the order to May 26.

The ruling comes after the Legislature's Republican leaders filed a lawsuit last month arguing the order would cost Wisconsin residents their jobs and hurt many companies, asserting that if it was left in place, "our State will be in shambles."

The suit was filed specifically against state Department of Health Services Secretary-designee Andrea Palm and other health officials, who made the decision in mid-April to extend the state's "Safer at Home" emergency order. At the same time as the extension, the state loosened some restrictions on certain businesses, including golf courses, public libraries, and arts and crafts stores.
But the justices wrote in their decision Wednesday that "an agency cannot confer on itself the power to dictate the lives of law-abiding individuals as comprehensively as the order does without reaching beyond the executive branch's authority."

Evers, who had ordered Palm to issue the stay-at-home order in late March, has not yet released a statement on the ruling -- though he made his thoughts on the lawsuit clear when it was first filed.
"Republicans are exploiting a global pandemic to further their attempts to undermine the will of the people. But what's at stake goes far beyond political power--lives are on the line," he tweeted at the time.
"This isn't a game. This isn't funny," he wrote. "People die every day because of this virus -- often times painful and lonely deaths -- and the more we delay or play political games the more people die."

Still, Republican Assembly Speaker Robin Vos and Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald claimed in a joint statement after filing their lawsuit that there's "immense frustration regarding the extension" of the order and that Evers "has denied the people a voice through this unprecedented administrative overreach."
"Unfortunately, that leaves the legislature no choice but to ask the Supreme Court to rein in this obvious abuse of power," they said.
"Wisconsinites deserve certainty, transparency, and a plan to end the constant stream of executive orders that are eroding both the economy and their liberty even as the state is clearly seeing a decline in Covid infections."
Wisconsin Democrats, however, have argued that the health crisis "will only get worse if we end Safer at Home before it's safe to."
Public health professionals have repeatedly stressed the dangers of relaxing social distancing measures too early.

Experts widely agree that states and localities will need robust testing and contact tracing programs in order to control the pandemic without strict social distancing measures, but many states -- including Wisconsin -- have reported shortages of critical supplies needed to run coronavirus tests.
That's a problem because experts say the ability to quickly identify new coronavirus cases -- and then quarantine those who might have been exposed -- will be crucial to returning to normal life.

As of Wednesday, Wisconsin had more than 10,902 confirmed cases of coronavirus and 421 deaths, according to the state's Department of Health Services.
 

schuylaar

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even Biden thinks Trumpy* is going to pull some on why the election can't happen:

Joe Biden, told donors at a virtual fundraising event, "Mark my words, I think he is going to try to kick back the election some, come up with some rationale why it can't be held."

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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It's why Trump wants to kill the post office, so they can't mail in ballots, he's fucked and desperate, they all are starting to see the writing on the wall and it spells PRISON. Donald will do anything to win, its a matter of life and death to him and others, to lose is to go through Hell, be stripped of wealth and end up in federal prison. I suspect Bill Barr is into this shit even deeper than it appears and might end up in prison himself, other AG's have gone to jail before and Barr has about 2,000 former justice officials screaming for his fucking head. Joe will appoint an AG who will get the fuckers head too, if he broke the law and it sure as shit looks like he did with the Ukraine affair, he was part of a criminal conspiracy.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Looking at this I see that Canada needs to tighten up it's containment policies too.
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32 Countries Are Beating Coronavirus. The U.S. Isn't One. | All In | MSNBC

Chris Hayes looks at how the U.S.’s coronavirus response compares to that of other countries: “It's really hard to look at all this data and come to any conclusion other than that our leaders are failing.” Aired on 05/13/2020.
 
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Budzbuddha

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There won’t be a vaccine ... only supplement therapy. It’s like saying we have a cure for cancer and aids , we don’t.

Society has forever changed in this moment. I would never in my wildest dreams, thought that I would be living during a true global catastrophe.

Think about it ...... A brand new virus ( from Coronavirus family ) , we have barely scratched the surface on its true form , it has mutated , it is showing itself in more and more symptom mysteries. How utterly effective the hellish thing is ..... It lays in wait without symptoms showing , airborne , multi temp viability, explosive reproduction within body , showing up in bodily fluids , forces the body’s defenses to basically attack itself and destroy the lungs. It could easily mutate into a full human exterminating form , and There is not a fucking thing we could do about it . I try to be realistic about things .... men fight over policies , money , vanity , greed ........ just paper lives in the end. This virus has us by the balls and people “ need “ to focus on that instead .... We should be leading the largest uniform global response in history against it .... instead of burning bridges and pointing fingers.

There are many “ human created “ diseases that have never officially been “ cured “ . Childhood diseases still thrive , HIV is still here ,
measles cases return .......... humans have always been the catalyst of disease. So it’s not a stretch that such a simple micron size organism could devastate humanity. We core the glacial sheets looking for early life , resurrecting bacteria / viruses to study. We take
marrow / bone dna of old plague skeletons to isolate and study viruses that have decimated millions. Not even touching on the bioweapon research countries continue to do . Water supplies are contaminated with pathogens , cryptosporidium and sewage.

I have never been a fan of politics or all the yelling and paper shaking at each other. Government is one big chess game to me , position jockeying, the same monarchy type of rule that has been the s@me song and dance since the beginning of time.

IMO I believe this virus will always be with us , babies are being born infected / exposed , it lives on all touch surfaces , it will piggyback on seasonal influenza ( yet another disease NEVER cured ) , life as it was a few months ago is forever changed. Cases are already to show spiking after some relaxation in policies. We will get a resurgence, that’s guaranteed, we are barely in the early stages of what unknown shit awaits us. People are dying “ daily “ all over the world ..... and there is nothing we can do about it. The numbers are going go up to a point that’s anyones guess ....

Here is something funny .... “ You Know in EVERY disaster movie , there is always a scientist NO ONE listens to ! “

Back to my beer ...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There won’t be a vaccine ... only supplement therapy. It’s like saying we have a cure for cancer and aids , we don’t.

Society has forever changed in this moment. I would never in my wildest dreams, thought that I would be living during a true global catastrophe.

Think about it ...... A brand new virus ( from Coronavirus family ) , we have barely scratched the surface on its true form , it has mutated , it is showing itself in more and more symptom mysteries. How utterly effective the hellish thing is ..... It lays in wait without symptoms showing , airborne , multi temp viability, explosive reproduction within body , showing up in bodily fluids , forces the body’s defenses to basically attack itself and destroy the lungs. It could easily mutate into a full human exterminating form , and There is not a fucking thing we could do about it . I try to be realistic about things .... men fight over policies , money , vanity , greed ........ just paper lives in the end. This virus has us by the balls and people “ need “ to focus on that instead .... We should be leading the largest uniform global response in history against it .... instead of burning bridges and pointing fingers.

There are many “ human created “ diseases that have never officially been “ cured “ . Childhood diseases still thrive , HIV is still here ,
measles cases return .......... humans have always been the catalyst of disease. So it’s not a stretch that such a simple micron size organism could devastate humanity. We core the glacial sheets looking for early life , resurrecting bacteria / viruses to study. We take
marrow / bone dna of old plague skeletons to isolate and study viruses that have decimated millions. Not even touching on the bioweapon research countries continue to do . Water supplies are contaminated with pathogens , cryptosporidium and sewage.

I have never been a fan of politics or all the yelling and paper shaking at each other. Government is one big chess game to me , position jockeying, the same monarchy type of rule that has been the s@me song and dance since the beginning of time.

IMO I believe this virus will always be with us , babies are being born infected / exposed , it lives on all touch surfaces , it will piggyback on seasonal influenza ( yet another disease NEVER cured ) , life as it was a few months ago is forever changed. Cases are already to show spiking after some relaxation in policies. We will get a resurgence, that’s guaranteed, we are barely in the early stages of what unknown shit awaits us. People are dying “ daily “ all over the world ..... and there is nothing we can do about it. The numbers are going go up to a point that’s anyones guess ....

Here is something funny .... “ You Know in EVERY disaster movie , there is always a scientist NO ONE listens to ! “

Back to my beer ...
Here's your problem, solved in November hopefully, call it the national IQ test, or just a test of survival, same thing.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Ousted Vaccine Chief Warns Of 'Darkest Winter' Ahead | NBC Nightly News

Dr. Rick Bright will testify before a House committee on Thursday. He plans to tell lawmakers, "Our window of opportunity is closing. If we fail to develop a national coordinated response, based in science, I fear the pandemic will get far worse and be prolonged, causing unprecedented illness and fatalities.”
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Biden leads nationally with seniors 65 and older by 15% in an election match up!
It seems they don't want to be sacrificed on the altar of herd immunity and can remember how competent presidents would handle something like this. In 2016 seniors went for Trump by 7 points, I wonder why he's lost 22% of them since then? Old folks are saying FUCK TRUMP!

Biden --57%
Trump--42%
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Could Donald be putting the heat on these two clowns?
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FBI Seizes Sen. Richard Burr's Cellphone In Probe Over Stock Sales | Morning Joe | MSNBC

The FBI has seized the cellphone of Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., pursuant to a search warrant as part of an investigation of possible insider trading, a senior law enforcement official confirmed to NBC News. Aired on 05/14/2020.
 
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