Replacement for hydroguard?
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Jypsy Dog
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQG23O/ref=asc_df_B00VXQG23O5107698/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=395033&creativeASIN=B00VXQG23O&linkCode=df0&hvadid=193142362025&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11585559473242832174&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030049&hvtargid=pla-311792278991 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_amyloliquefaciens
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Jypsy Dog
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They might say no to it. It's the same bacteria, only 1000x more concentrated. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/consumer-product-safety/pesticides-pest-management/public/consultations/proposed-registration-decisions/2015/bacillus-amyloliquefaciens-strain-d747/document.html
newguy123
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Not available in Canada sadly
Jypsy Dog
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This says Canada is cool with it. http://news.agropages.com/News/NewsDetail---14654.htm
newguy123
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No one carries it anymore and companies that are listed on the botanical website said it's not available anymore.
Jypsy Dog
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Didn't know you can get it in a powder. http://www.pestrong.com/157-double-nickel-55-biofungicide-5-lb.html
Jypsy Dog
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Why can't you import it?? http://thegrower.org/news/double-nickel-biofungicide-now-available
BadlyDrawnBoy
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Why is it illegal? Something harmful in it? I'm using it and would rather not if it's toxic somehow
dirtWeevil
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i use myco grow soluble from fungi perfecti, check and see if its allowed it works great very cheap too
chasingwaterfalls
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If you're trying to stretch a buck, have you seen this post yet? https://www.rollitup.org/t/dwc-root-slime-cure-aka-how-to-breed-beneficial-microbes.361430/
It's a long post, but Heisenberg tea is great, I started using it after I had an issue in my current dwc, but I'm going to be using it all the time from now on.
If you can get your hands on earthworm castings, I def recommend it. Aquashield is basically hydroguard, but great white can substitute for it.
It's a long post, but Heisenberg tea is great, I started using it after I had an issue in my current dwc, but I'm going to be using it all the time from now on.
If you can get your hands on earthworm castings, I def recommend it. Aquashield is basically hydroguard, but great white can substitute for it.
This man knows wtf he is talking about. 100$ will gets enough tea to treat probably 2,000 gallons of res water. Use the method for maintaining if you aren't fighting slime (1 cup each rez change). I use Emerald Harvest CalMag now in my rez because it has kelp extract that feed the bennies and its cheaper then most other big brands without kelp. Then add a enzyme and some aminos and you never have to use a sweetener again!
DIY grower
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Where did you get Great White for $46 CAD? Was is on amazon.ca for 1 ounce? (https://www.amazon.ca/Plant-Success-Revolution-PRPSGW01-1-Ounce/dp/B00A8PG6RI/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=great+white&qid=1589832861&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-4)
If so, it's just a price gouge. The 1 oz sells for $14USD. I'm looking for a better value option.
DIY grower
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I've checked out the Southern Ag Fungicide but from my understanding it only has 1 strain of Bacillus bacteria where as Great White has many strains as well as endo and ecto mycorrhizae. Canada seems to have nuked to beneficial bacteria market!
fragileassassin
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Its also like 1/20th the cost and just as effective for most people. Its the same strain as hydroguard which people have used successfully for years.
Yes great white has many strains, but it would cost more than my nutrient to use at the recommended rate in my system size.
A bottle of southern ag $16 per liter and 5ml treats 50 gallons.
GW is not cost effective at all for anyone growing in anything bigger than a single bucket.