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Authenticwillv

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So I have a Six Shooter two weeks old and some purple punch babies. The other day i used coz peoduction using vinegar and baking soda drip method when i got back from work my girls were in serious stress and SS was drooping with copper leaves and browning and dying. The purples took a nasty hit too on the tips. Is it possible the vinegar fumes hurt them? I checked ph of runoff and it was 7.9 adding 6.8 ph water to it. So did this baking soda and vinegar setup raise my soil ph and cause lockout of nutes? I did grow before and did great job and didnt have access to the nutes i have now but i have Fox Farm big bloom and grow big and tiger. I also have cal mag and maganese and rapid start along with super thrive. I have organic fish fertilizer i used to flush the soil and still at 7.2ph. Please help me fix this lockout its driving me nuts. My strwberry banana just popped and dont want those girls getting same dumb treatment but heres pics of damage. Oh yeah i have 2000w led in 4x4 tent as well. Just need tips on how to fix problem and prevent future issues. As well as a different co2 production method. Thank for the help guys.
 

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Budzbuddha

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Honestly I’m not sure you WHY you are adding all kinds of crap to such a simple plant and grow.

Medium ( soil ) could have fed , rooted and began initial growth all by itself on just water.
Adding all of those unnecessary elements just pretty much wrecked your shit. All you had to do is run ph stable water ( 6.5 ) to match the soil and that’s it ...... now they are probably stressed and stunted from all of the crazy additions.

Only hope is ..
transplant them into another container of unaltered soil ... see if they will recover on just watering ( when necessary).

The only reason I do not recommend adding or flushing anything “ as is “ is the fact that soil is so thrown out of whack it would be a moot point. Also forget CO2 with this grow , it will add nothing to it , especially in their current condition.


Worst case scenario.... shitcan them.
 
Cancerfighter80

Cancerfighter80

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Authenticwillv said:
So I have a Six Shooter two weeks old and some purple punch babies. The other day i used coz peoduction using vinegar and baking soda drip method when i got back from work my girls were in serious stress and SS was drooping with copper leaves and browning and dying. The purples took a nasty hit too on the tips. Is it possible the vinegar fumes hurt them? I checked ph of runoff and it was 7.9 adding 6.8 ph water to it. So did this baking soda and vinegar setup raise my soil ph and cause lockout of nutes? I did grow before and did great job and didnt have access to the nutes i have now but i have Fox Farm big bloom and grow big and tiger. I also have cal mag and maganese and rapid start along with super thrive. I have organic fish fertilizer i used to flush the soil and still at 7.2ph. Please help me fix this lockout its driving me nuts. My strwberry banana just popped and dont want those girls getting same dumb treatment but heres pics of damage. Oh yeah i have 2000w led in 4x4 tent as well. Just need tips on how to fix problem and prevent future issues. As well as a different co2 production method. Thank for the help guys.
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Man your trying to build a house without the land to build on.anyways dont worry so much about fertilizer and food and all that shit you have a while before you need anything if at all.
I have not used 1 drop of fertilizer or anything to feed just straight happy frog soil.
 
Cancerfighter80

Cancerfighter80

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Cancerfighter80 said:
Man your trying to build a house without the land to build on.anyways dont worry so much about fertilizer and food and all that shit you have a while before you need anything if at all.
I have not used 1 drop of fertilizer or anything to feed just straight happy frog soil.
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I'm not a pro by any means but I'd never mix vinegar and my plants EVER. My neck of woods vinegar is a weed killer.
 
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Authenticwillv

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Budzbuddha said:
Honestly I’m not sure you WHY you are adding all kinds of crap to such a simple plant and grow.

Medium ( soil ) could have fed , rooted and began initial growth all by itself on just water.
Adding all of those unnecessary elements just pretty much wrecked your shit. All you had to do is run ph stable water ( 6.5 ) to match the soil and that’s it ...... now they are probably stressed and stunted from all of the crazy additions.

Only hope is ..
transplant them into another container of unaltered soil ... see if they will recover on just watering ( when necessary).

The only reason I do not recommend adding or flushing anything “ as is “ is the fact that soil is so thrown out of whack it would be a moot point. Also forget CO2 with this grow , it will add nothing to it , especially in their current condition.


Worst case scenario.... shitcan them.
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Thanks dude. Well she is bouncing back after fish shit flood two days in a row lol so I think it will be ok i put too much time in these to lose em. Ima keep her going on schedule nutes monday wed and friday and keep ph under control.
 
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Authenticwillv

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Budzbuddha said:
Honestly I’m not sure you WHY you are adding all kinds of crap to such a simple plant and grow.

Medium ( soil ) could have fed , rooted and began initial growth all by itself on just water.
Adding all of those unnecessary elements just pretty much wrecked your shit. All you had to do is run ph stable water ( 6.5 ) to match the soil and that’s it ...... now they are probably stressed and stunted from all of the crazy additions.

Only hope is ..
transplant them into another container of unaltered soil ... see if they will recover on just watering ( when necessary).

The only reason I do not recommend adding or flushing anything “ as is “ is the fact that soil is so thrown out of whack it would be a moot point. Also forget CO2 with this grow , it will add nothing to it , especially in their current condition.


Worst case scenario.... shitcan them.
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Bro googled forums someone said nutes good for her younger age i dont use alot but when they passed seedlings i hit em with big blooms
 
Cancerfighter80

Cancerfighter80

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Authenticwillv said:
Thanks dude. Well she is bouncing back after fish shit flood two days in a row lol so I think it will be ok i put too much time in these to lose em. Ima keep her going on schedule nutes monday wed and friday and keep ph under control.
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if your gna keep giving nutriets after everyone told you that you still have seedlings basically dont bother your killing it as a baby....dont come on here asking for help your plants or i should say stem with a leaf on it will burn up so just keep doing what you've already done and kiss plant goodbye
 
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Authenticwillv

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Cancerfighter80 said:
if your gna keep giving nutriets after everyone told you that you still have seedlings basically dont bother your killing it as a baby....dont come on here asking for help your plants or i should say stem with a leaf on it will burn up so just keep doing what you've already done and kiss plant goodbye
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Im not giving it nutes what u talkin about? I havent given it shit for few days but ph water
 
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Authenticwillv

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I was just wondering if fumes from vinegar can fuck it up im pretty sure baking soda and vinegar fumes fucked up my soil cuz it makes no sense acidic nutes fucked my soil up its alkaline and caused lockout
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Authenticwillv said:
I was just wondering if fumes from vinegar can fuck it up im pretty sure baking soda and vinegar fumes fucked up my soil cuz it makes no sense acidic nutes fucked my soil up its alkaline and caused lockout
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It isn't a vinegar issue, fox farms is notorious for over feeding to sell more product cut back to 1/4 recommended dosages and you will get better results
 
Cancerfighter80

Cancerfighter80

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Authenticwillv said:
Im not giving it nutes what u talkin about? I havent given it shit for few days but ph water
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bro look at what you wrote i telling you you rburning it up by feeding it to early i mean just do what you rkeep doing you ll learn i aint bashing ya but you aint hearing people when they sayget the plant devoloped before adding shit to it you need nothing but good soil and water nothing else and a good light.
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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Authenticwillv said:
Im not giving it nutes what u talkin about? I havent given it shit for few days but ph water
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You just said you flushed twice with fish fertilizer. That is "nutes". You also said you were going to continue to feed Mon, Wed, Fri.

Authenticwillv said:
Thanks dude. Well she is bouncing back after fish shit flood two days in a row lol so I think it will be ok i put too much time in these to lose em. Ima keep her going on schedule nutes monday wed and friday and keep ph under control.
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No one is bashing you. You were given sound advice from a solid grower and yet you decided you want to continue to do what you think is best instead. Someone pointed out the fact that you ignored good advice and now you are upset. No big deal, they are your plants.
 
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