Hillary Clinton Backs Eliot Engel, in Her First House Primary Endorsement of 2020

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog

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Pad is still waiting for that call from his imaginary friend. She's one of millions of hard left heretofore non-voters. The ones that would sweep Bernie to win Democratic nominations in 2016 and 2020 and into the White house. And on to revolution!!.

Pad says they prefer Republicans to rule because Democrats aren't leftist enough for them.

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hanimmal

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I could see why someone who wanted the Democratic party to be as strong as possible would want this guy over another Freshman in congress, especially when dealing with what the Democrats are going to have to fix in the upcoming couple years if they pull off a big win in November.

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He has also voted against Russian interests in illegally attacking our democracy.
 

Padawanbater2

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She endorsed Engel over Bowman because Bowman is a progressive and Engel is a corporatist who gets backed by Republican super PACs

Bowman and progressives won't bend over backwards to the will of corrupt corporate party leaders like Engel will
 

Fogdog

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She endorsed Engel over Bowman because Bowman is a progressive and Engel is a corporatist who gets backed by Republican super PACs

Bowman and progressives won't bend over backwards to the will of corrupt corporate party leaders like Engel will
cool story, man. Completely free of facts but still, cool story.

Tell us again how you coworkers expect you to work harder than they do because you are a white man. That was a good one. Completely free of facts but still, cool story.
 

Padawanbater2

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cool story, man. Completely free of facts but still, cool story.

Tell us again how you coworkers expect you to work harder than they do because you are a white man. That was a good one. Completely free of facts but still, cool story.
You enjoy telling people how naive you think they are, I find that infinitely ironic because you are the most naive person on this forum when it comes to politics

You're holding water for a corporate party and defending people funded by Republicans

Engel admitted he doesn't actually care about police reform, the only reason he showed up to an event is because he has a strong primary opponent

Bowman has served his community for decades, supports universal healthcare, police reform, and falls on the right side of every other progressive issue, isn't funded by corporations or super PACs, and is in a safe blue district, meaning there's no chance of a Republican winning the seat if Bowman wins the primary, the excuse you enjoy using in defense of people like Joe Manchin. By every metric you claim to support, Bowman is the right candidate. The only reason to support Engel over Bowman would be because you align more closely with the moderate/corporate wing of the Democratic party, like Clinton does.

So why do you continue to pretend like you're a progressive or you support progressive ideals when every single time it comes down to a race like this, you support the moderate/corporatist over the progressive? There are no exceptions you can point to
 

Unclebaldrick

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You enjoy telling people how naive you think they are, I find that infinitely ironic because you are the most naive person on this forum when it comes to politics

You're holding water for a corporate party and defending people funded by Republicans

Engel admitted he doesn't actually care about police reform, the only reason he showed up to an event is because he has a strong primary opponent

Bowman has served his community for decades, supports universal healthcare, police reform, and falls on the right side of every other progressive issue, isn't funded by corporations or super PACs, and is in a safe blue district, meaning there's no chance of a Republican winning the seat if Bowman wins the primary, the excuse you enjoy using in defense of people like Joe Manchin. By every metric you claim to support, Bowman is the right candidate. The only reason to support Engel over Bowman would be because you align more closely with the moderate/corporate wing of the Democratic party, like Clinton does.

So why do you continue to pretend like you're a progressive or you support progressive ideals when every single time it comes down to a race like this, you support the moderate/corporatist over the progressive? There are no exceptions you can point to
Hello pathetic loser.

We are all still waiting for a few examples of your most anti-Trump posts.

We are filling the time by laughing at you.
 

UncleBuck

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You enjoy telling people how naive you think they are, I find that infinitely ironic because you are the most naive person on this forum when it comes to politics

You're holding water for a corporate party and defending people funded by Republicans

Engel admitted he doesn't actually care about police reform, the only reason he showed up to an event is because he has a strong primary opponent

Bowman has served his community for decades, supports universal healthcare, police reform, and falls on the right side of every other progressive issue, isn't funded by corporations or super PACs, and is in a safe blue district, meaning there's no chance of a Republican winning the seat if Bowman wins the primary, the excuse you enjoy using in defense of people like Joe Manchin. By every metric you claim to support, Bowman is the right candidate. The only reason to support Engel over Bowman would be because you align more closely with the moderate/corporate wing of the Democratic party, like Clinton does.

So why do you continue to pretend like you're a progressive or you support progressive ideals when every single time it comes down to a race like this, you support the moderate/corporatist over the progressive? There are no exceptions you can point to
do women still make your penis go soft
 

hanimmal

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She endorsed Engel over Bowman because Bowman is a progressive and Engel is a corporatist who gets backed by Republican super PACs

Bowman and progressives won't bend over backwards to the will of corrupt corporate party leaders like Engel will
Is this something you heard her say? because I call bullshit.

And I don't think you have anyway to actually know who this guy (either candidate) is to make that kind of claim.

You enjoy telling people how naive you think they are, I find that infinitely ironic because you are the most naive person on this forum when it comes to politics

You're holding water for a corporate party and defending people funded by Republicans
Yeah a lot of Republicans are pissed off at Trump too and want stable leadership that works for the entire country. Even if that means putting their money behind Democrats, at least they are legislating for every American.

You like to act like 'corporate' is a bad word. It is not.

Engel admitted he doesn't actually care about police reform, the only reason he showed up to an event is because he has a strong primary opponent
Sure, or we are in the middle of a pandemic and because of the extrodanary times we are in it is important for him to be out now talking about it because it is not something he cares about much, being a white guy it is not a odd stance. It sucks that it took the video of yet another man being murdered to open up peoples eyes. Have you looked at any of the bills this guy has done? What exactly about his voting history is it that you think is bad?

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/E000179-eliot-l-engel/compare-votes/115

Seems solid to me. I can see why Russia and other foreign dictators would not want him since he has voted against their interests.

How did you originally hear about this race?

Bowman has served his community for decades, supports universal healthcare, police reform, and falls on the right side of every other progressive issue, isn't funded by corporations or super PACs, and is in a safe blue district, meaning there's no chance of a Republican winning the seat if Bowman wins the primary, the excuse you enjoy using in defense of people like Joe Manchin. By every metric you claim to support, Bowman is the right candidate. The only reason to support Engel over Bowman would be because you align more closely with the moderate/corporate wing of the Democratic party, like Clinton does.
Every Democrat supports universal healthcare.

Bowman is a 44 year old middle school principle. Stepping up is great, and maybe he is a great candidate and wins and does awesome, it really doesn't change much here though since I can't vote for the dude. But if I could I would vote for the guy who has a really strong history of not being in Russia's pocket and has voted 98.6% of the time with Democrats.

Also is Clinton a bad word to you? You do know that if you are what you say, an American, you have been sold a bullshit propaganda narrative by the Russians against Clinton to help Trump get elected. They did not do that for our benefit.

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Anything you think you know that is negative about her, I would suggest looking into it using something like AP news or Reuters for the actual truth of what was reported and not just Russian nonsense. And while your doing that think about how that might impact what you think about this election.

If you are an American, we are not enemies (unless you're a nazi, but even then you have family you care about here if nothing else). We just need to cut through the noise being pushed by trolls online across every platform so that as an American we can all understand the actual issues we face as a society and make better decisions.
 
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Fogdog

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You enjoy telling people how naive you think they are, I find that infinitely ironic because you are the most naive person on this forum when it comes to politics

You're holding water for a corporate party and defending people funded by Republicans

Engel admitted he doesn't actually care about police reform, the only reason he showed up to an event is because he has a strong primary opponent

Bowman has served his community for decades, supports universal healthcare, police reform, and falls on the right side of every other progressive issue, isn't funded by corporations or super PACs, and is in a safe blue district, meaning there's no chance of a Republican winning the seat if Bowman wins the primary, the excuse you enjoy using in defense of people like Joe Manchin. By every metric you claim to support, Bowman is the right candidate. The only reason to support Engel over Bowman would be because you align more closely with the moderate/corporate wing of the Democratic party, like Clinton does.

So why do you continue to pretend like you're a progressive or you support progressive ideals when every single time it comes down to a race like this, you support the moderate/corporatist over the progressive? There are no exceptions you can point to
I don't vote in NY. The choice is not mine to make. I voted for Defazio, Merkely and Wyden. If you have a beef about something they did, I'll listen.
 
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