Ocean Forest - Soil Test Report

Go go n chill

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Ditto actually. I bought two bags right at the start of the pandemic instead of my usual brand and it was awful heavy on the bark and twigs...

But I can handle the bark and twigs, its the gnats I'm mad about. Never had a problem before, now I can't get rid of them.
I use play sand on top of my soil
The fungus gnats hate it and then I use giant sticky traps that I bought on Amazon
A couple of years ago I had hundreds of gnats and those two things got rid of them
 

GreenGuy_1995

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I've used FoxFarm Ocean Forest soil for decades and it's always been a reliably consistent base for me. Back in the day it was over $20 per bag, now it's only $12 which is great!

A long time ago, I had to purchase it from a retailer who would store their pallets outdoors in an open, but covered outbuilding. This was annoying because it would always seem to come with complimentary pests, such as fungus gnats.. These days there are more retail options available and I purchase from a retailer who stores it inside, and I no longer have to worry about the included pests.

As far as moisture content goes, the bags I purchase in the winter time may be a bit dryer than fall, spring or summer time purchases, but adding a little bit of water fixes that issue, no problem. I usually amend it and add water anyway..

I knock out any fungus gnats with a product called "Mosquito Bits" which is a BTi product. I'll sprinkle them on top of the pots and water in, or I'll mix them with water and saturate the pot from the top or bottom, depending on where the problem is. Works like a charm every time.
 

christopher jordan

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I've used FoxFarm Ocean Forest soil for decades and it's always been a reliably consistent base for me. Back in the day it was over $20 per bag, now it's only $12 which is great!

A long time ago, I had to purchase it from a retailer who would store their pallets outdoors in an open, but covered outbuilding. This was annoying because it would always seem to come with complimentary pests, such as fungus gnats.. These days there are more retail options available and I purchase from a retailer who stores it inside, and I no longer have to worry about the included pests.

As far as moisture content goes, the bags I purchase in the winter time may be a bit dryer than fall, spring or summer time purchases, but adding a little bit of water fixes that issue, no problem. I usually amend it and add water anyway..

I knock out any fungus gnats with a product called "Mosquito Bits" which is a BTi product. I'll sprinkle them on top of the pots and water in, or I'll mix them with water and saturate the pot from the top or bottom, depending on where the problem is. Works like a charm every time.
H202 Flush works too.
 

brian330

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Ive thought about drip lines a bunch, bought a bunch of lines and a pump, and never used it. Part of what led me to trying to get to a water only regimen was so that I could. Not sure I will in this apartment I am in now tho. Once I get a space that suits it, I am definitely going to give Blumats a try.
I actually have everything ready to go,except the nerve and knowledge to start using it. but hey,that's why I'm here.
 

brian330

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Starting a worm bin is usually step #1 for organic gardeners. It's the most expensive thing to buy and it's better if you make it yourself. Peat moss + rock dust + expired produce = the best soil that you can get!!! The commercial worm castings is made out of cardboard boxes, so there isn't much diversity there.
Earth worm bin you say? Now I'm intrigued...
Do you have a solid starting point for information on it? I'm new to growing in general, and have only glanced at the info on organic growing.
 

MustangStudFarm

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Thanks! In my quest for solutions I found this site a week or so ago and have been slimming through it,but will look at it more thoroughly of you think its a good source.
I'll add this podcast. Tad Hussey has an All-Star line up here, it's very good. I still find myself listening to these and learning something new even though I already listened 3-5x. Clackamas Coot's is the go-to soil recipe that has been accepted into this forum and he has a 3 part series on here.
I actually have everything ready to go,except the nerve and knowledge to start using it. but hey,that's why I'm here.
Failure is part of the process and you have to get your hands dirty. People that stress this much about failure are usually the ones that do their homework and learn.
 

MustangStudFarm

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I use play sand on top of my soil
The fungus gnats hate it and then I use giant sticky traps that I bought on Amazon
A couple of years ago I had hundreds of gnats and those two things got rid of them
This is what I use. It's better if it sits in the water for longer than 24hrs. It's a bacterial strain and it's safe to put in animal water troughs and won't kill frogs, so it's safe enough to water with. I have a hunch that adding it an AACT would expand the bacteria, but that's a project that I'm about to work on lol.
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MustangStudFarm

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Earth worm bin you say? Now I'm intrigued...
Do you have a solid starting point for information on it? I'm new to growing in general, and have only glanced at the info on organic growing.
Just tell me what kind of yard that you have to work with. Do you mow the grass and get dead tree leaves? Do you have a "City Compost Facility"? My first compost/worm bin was just a compost pile on a broken concrete slab. It was a tool shed when I bought the house, but it was rotten and falling apart. So, I tore it down and used the cheap posts and chicken wire(poultry netting) around the concrete slab.
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ilovereggae

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DIY is always best. You ALWAYS get a bigger system for much cheaper!
On the other hand, I am just enough of a sucker for nice design to actually buy this one. I really love it.

But then reality sets in and I remember that I need to save money. So I am buying some clearance totes from Big Lots and getting my DIY on.
 

MustangStudFarm

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On the other hand, I am just enough of a sucker for nice design to actually buy this one. I really love it.

But then reality sets in and I remember that I need to save money. So I am buying some clearance totes from Big Lots and getting my DIY on.
WormFarm 360 is nice, but I never felt like I had enough castings ready. I only had a 4x4 tent at the time too...
 

MustangStudFarm

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I'm saying that the WormFactory 360 is small and the one that you shown is smaller. I get the idea that these set-ups are for people that live in tiny apartment buildings and don't have a yard. If that's you, I'm not stepping on your toes.
 

Kushash

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The worm factory 360 I have has been great and I agree it only creates enough castings for top dressing, not enough when mixing a large batch of soil.
My go to feeding routine about every 10 days that the worms seem to enjoy is fruits and vegetables blended then mixed with a few handfuls of coco, 2 cups of soil and a pinch of dolomite lime.
The hypoaspis miles mites in my worm factory 360 have been the best defense against fungus gnats when I add fresh castings to my soil.
 

brian330

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Just tell me what kind of yard that you have to work with. Do you mow the grass and get dead tree leaves? Do you have a "City Compost Facility"? My first compost/worm bin was just a compost pile on a broken concrete slab. It was a tool shed when I bought the house, but it was rotten and falling apart. So, I tore it down and used the cheap posts and chicken wire(poultry netting) around the concrete slab.
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We own our home and have someone cut the grass and dispose of the clippings, but i can have him leave them in a pile in the backyard and collect the dead leaves that are around. I do not know about a compost facility in the county,but will look into it. I have a large shed in the back that my wife will let me slowly convert into a "greenhouse",so i decided to grow my first plants ever to get some experience and "master" the process before i start the conversion. I was unsure what medium i wanted to use, and foolishly thought that it wasn't that important, so i used soil mostly, but i have 8 in soil/perlite, 5 in coco/perlite, and 2 in a soil/coco/perlite mix.(I know 15 is an excessive start for a first timer, but they were not all supposed to be mine and i was supposed to have an experienced person helping me)I am going to use this run to see which medium(and growing methods) I would like to use going forward and this information will definitely aid me(and my plants)in the future.
Just tell me what kind of yard that you have to work with. Do you mow the grass and get dead tree leaves? Do you have a "City Compost Facility"? My first compost/worm bin was just a compost pile on a broken concrete slab. It was a tool shed when I bought the house, but it was rotten and falling apart. So, I tore it down and used the cheap posts and chicken wire(poultry netting) around the concrete slab.
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