Supreme Court will argue on the phone in real time about releasing Trump's taxes May 12-13.

[hanimmal]

 

[hanimmal]

Today is when they start talking about Trump's wanting to be king and above all law while President.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

If Donald was shoveling bailout money to his businesses this will help to find it, but I figure that would be the least of Donald's worries.
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Significant Financial Secrets At Stake For Trump In SCOTUS Case | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

David Enrich, business investigations editor for the New York Times, talks with Rachel Maddow about the Deutsche Bank subpoena for Donald Trump's records that is at the center of Tuesday's Supreme Court arguments and what kind of information would be exposed if Trump's legal losing streak continues. Aired on 05/11/2020.

 

[hanimmal]

I think the New York one sounds like they nailed Trump to the wall.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

June would be a good time to get his taxes and I think congress will prevail too because of precedent, NY state will win for sure. After he is out of office his taxes and everything else will be an open book, if he loses the election, Donald has a January 2021 date in court, the first of many. No financial scandal or any other will shake his hard core base, but it will drive another nail into his coffin for those who have a brain. He will never sink below 35% support no matter what and that is where Pelosi should put him this summer and fall with oversight hearings of the Covid-19 fiasco, rock bottom with his hardcore base only and the GOP senate tied to him.
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Supreme Court Hears Arguments In Trump Taxes Cases | MSNBC

 

[rkymtnman]

I think the New York one sounds like they nailed Trump to the wall.

Mueller farmed off alot of his stuff to the SDNY. Hopefully they are a healthy mix of federal and state charges (which can't be pardoned)

 

[hanimmal]

Mueller farmed off alot of his stuff to the SDNY. Hopefully they are a healthy mix of federal and state charges (which can't be pardoned)

Is it me or is it pretty par for the course that Trump stopped Fauci from a House hearing, but the Republican Senate scheduled him for the same day Trump's taxes were being discussed and how all of this is directly related to Deutsche bank.

lmao, which is where the kid of the Supreme Court guy retired giving Trump Kavanagaugh.

It is crazy how just blatant it all is.

 

[rkymtnman]

Is it me or is it pretty par for the course that Trump stopped Fauci from a House hearing, but the Republican Senate scheduled him for the same day Trump's taxes were being discussed and how all of this is directly related to Deutsche bank.

lmao, which is where the kid of the Supreme Court guy retired giving Trump Kavanagaugh.

It is crazy how just blatant it all is.

I still think the most damning piece (which might take some time to prosecute) is one of the findings of Steele. He said the evidence of money laundering was astonishing. And he was just an outsider looking in.

 

[hanimmal]

I still think the most damning piece (which might take some time to prosecute) is one of the findings of Steele. He said the evidence of money laundering was astonishing. And he was just an outsider looking in.

Yeah he is leaning on it way too hard for it to be a coincidence, you are right. There was some talking head on MSNBC today that is one of the actual people who have seen the documents the Congress/NY wants, it was pretty interesting, he really didn't give out a lot other than it would be very important into seeing how his policies are relevant to his personal interests.

I am betting on the real link being with the Saudi's and Netanyahu. They are too close with the National Enquirer and a lot of other stuff in the Trump world, and also has ties MBS to Trump's investestigation.



Trump couldn't keep his mouth shut and triggered his own investigation by spouting off about Russia digging up dirt on his opponent and drunk interns bragging to foreign diplomats. And now he is impeached because he is incompetent and tried to do it again against Biden, and hoped nobody would tell on him.

This is going to be the major story for the next 2 years if Biden wins. The tv trial will be epic.

 

[rkymtnman]

The tv trial will be epic.

the sad part is there are going to be alot of deaths from these MAGA morons. trump was railroaded, deep state, the clintons, the obamas etc etc etc.

sad they just won't let their mind accept that he is a just a piece of shit conman. always was, always will be. Roy Cohn's protege.

 

[topcat]

More books to come out, movies, TV mini-series, a great boost to the economy.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

 

[hanimmal]

the sad part is there are going to be alot of deaths from these MAGA morons. trump was railroaded, deep state, the clintons, the obamas etc etc etc.

sad they just won't let their mind accept that he is a just a piece of shit conman. always was, always will be. Roy Cohn's protege.

Trump has his buddy Nader gets busted for child pornography.

And he was Trump's go between in the Saudi and Trump relationship. He is also a lobbyist for Blackwater, whose founder Eric Prince is the brother to Trump's horrible Education Secretary Bettsy Devos.

The projection of the Trump trolls linking child sex ring conspiracy theories is epic.

Sure Trump who flew in 28 girls for a private party with Epstein, and hired the son of the guy that hired Epstein to be around a bunch of little high school girls, Barr.

And Epstein happens to murder himself under Barr's DOJ.


But Clinton. jfc.


I wonder when Trump pulls a rabbit out of his ass to try pulling the victim card on this guy.

 

[topcat]

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[hanimmal]

https://apnews.com/a7a9e075f0ac771e95bf0fc6012d181a

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court issued a mixed verdict Thursday on demands for President Donald Trump’s financial records that will keep his tax returns, banking and other documents out of the public eye for the time being.

By 7-2 votes, the justices upheld the Manhattan district attorney’s demand for Trump’s tax returns, but kept a hold on Trump’s financial records that Congress has been seeking for more than a year.

But Trump, who has strenuously sought to keep his financial records private, didn’t immediately regard the outcome as a victory.

“The Supreme Court sends case back to Lower Court, arguments to continue. This is all a political prosecution,” Trump wrote in a series of angry tweets that followed the court rulings.

The justices rejected arguments by Trump’s lawyers and the Justice Department that the president is immune from investigation while he holds office or that a prosecutor must show a greater need than normal to obtain the records. The tax returns are being sought as part of a grand-jury investigation.

Because the grand jury process is confidential, the rulings make it likely that none of Trump’s financial records will become public soon.

Trump’s two high court appointees, Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, joined the majority in both cases along with Chief Justice John Roberts and the four liberal justices. Roberts wrote both opinions.

“Congressional subpoenas for information from the President, however, implicate special concerns regarding the separation of powers. The courts below did not take adequate account of those concerns,” Roberts wrote in the congressional case.

The ruling returns the case to lower courts, with no clear prospect for when the case might ultimately be resolved.

The tax returns case also is headed back to a lower court, but Trump’s major arguments have now been rejected.

Justice Samuel Alito, who dissented with Justice Clarence Thomas in both cases, warned that future presidents would suffer because of the decision about Trump’s taxes.

“This case is almost certain to be portrayed as a case about the current President and the current political situation, but the case has a much deeper significance,” Alito wrote. “While the decision will of course have a direct effect on President Trump, what the Court holds today will also affect all future Presidents—which is to say, it will affect the Presidency, and that is a matter of great and lasting importance to the Nation.”

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. said his investigation, on hold while the court fight played out, will now resume.

“This is a tremendous victory for our nation’s system of justice and its founding principle that no one — not even a president — is above the law. Our investigation, which was delayed for almost a year by this lawsuit, will resume, guided as always by the grand jury’s solemn obligation to follow the law and the facts, wherever they may lead,” Vance said.

The case was argued by telephone in May because of the coronavirus pandemic.

The fight over the congressional subpoenas has significant implications regarding a president’s power to refuse a formal request from Congress. In a separate fight at the federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., over a congressional demand for the testimony of former White House counsel Don McGahn, the administration is making broad arguments that the president’s close advisers are “absolutely immune” from having to appear.

In two earlier cases over presidential power, the Supreme Court acted unanimously in requiring President Richard Nixon to turn over White House tapes to the Watergate special prosecutor and in allowing a sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton to go forward.

In those cases, three Nixon appointees and two Clinton appointees, respectively, voted against the president who chose them for the high court. A fourth Nixon appointee, William Rehnquist, sat out the tapes case because he had worked closely as a Justice Department official with some of the Watergate conspirators whose upcoming trial spurred the subpoena for the Oval Office recordings.

The subpoenas are not directed at Trump himself. Instead, House committees want records from Deutsche Bank, Capital One and the Mazars USA accounting firm. Mazars also is the recipient of Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance’s subpoena.

Full Coverage: U.S. Supreme Court

Appellate courts in Washington, D.C., and New York brushed aside the president’s arguments in decisions that focused on the fact that the subpoenas were addressed to third parties asking for records of Trump’s business and financial dealings as a private citizen, not as president.

Two congressional committees subpoenaed the bank documents as part of their investigations into Trump and his businesses. Deutsche Bank has been one of the few banks willing to lend to Trump after a series of corporate bankruptcies and defaults starting in the early 1990s.

Vance and the House Oversight and Reform Committee sought records from Mazars concerning Trump and his businesses based on payments that Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, arranged to keep two women from airing their claims of decade-old extramarital affairs with Trump during the 2016 presidential race.

 

[Fogdog]

https://apnews.com/a7a9e075f0ac771e95bf0fc6012d181a
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Does this not feel as if these court cases will drag on into next year?

 

[father nature]

I dont think ANYONE should have their tax returns made public. That is private information that should stay private. Everyone looks for the best way to save money on their taxes otherwise they;re an idiot.

Anyone who feels differently feel free to post YOUR tax return right here on this forum and we'll make it go viral....didn't think so. We are all entitled to privacy no matter what job you have

 

[UncleBuck]

I dont think ANYONE should have their tax returns made public. That is private information that should stay private. Everyone looks for the best way to save money on their taxes otherwise they;re an idiot.

Anyone who feels differently feel free to post YOUR tax return right here on this forum and we'll make it go viral....didn't think so. We are all entitled to privacy no matter what job you have

his taxes are the matter of a criminal investigation and have been subpoenaed

he is not above the law, stop sucking his dick

 

[hanimmal]

I dont think ANYONE should have their tax returns made public. That is private information that should stay private. Everyone looks for the best way to save money on their taxes otherwise they;re an idiot.

Anyone who feels differently feel free to post YOUR tax return right here on this forum and we'll make it go viral....didn't think so. We are all entitled to privacy no matter what job you have

The problem is Trump is a holder of public office, if he is corruptly taking money from foreign dictators it is directly related to how we are governed by an office like the POTUS.


https://go.joebiden.com/page/-/vpdocs/Biden 2018 Amended Federal.pdf

 

[Fogdog]

I dont think ANYONE should have their tax returns made public. That is private information that should stay private. Everyone looks for the best way to save money on their taxes otherwise they;re an idiot.

Anyone who feels differently feel free to post YOUR tax return right here on this forum and we'll make it go viral....didn't think so. We are all entitled to privacy no matter what job you have

Huh, what an amazingly obtuse argument.

Actually, most people try very hard to record an accurate tax return because they don't want to get audited and found guilty of tax fraud. Trump is not above the law. That is the gist of this ruling.

I signed my 2019 tax filing with this warning given to me directly above the signature line:

"Under penalties of perjury, I declare that I have examined this return and accompanying schedules and statements, and to the best of my knowledge and belief, they are true, correct, and accurately list all amounts and sources of income I received during the tax year.

So fuck that. Trump is not above the law. If he cheated on his taxes, if he falsified records, if he violated campaign contribution laws, he's liable. If he didn't then he has nothing to worry about.