DIY-HP-LED
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Isn't that what ya call Eurotrash?
Trump pardons Stone.
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All we need is balance. If your president can
I am more of ethnicist
I am a European ethnicist. If you love your country creates a respect inside you for other countries and cultures. What you describe is a person that hates other countries and different people.
UncleBuck
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hush, nazi trash
Fogdog
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No trade, no deal.
I'll take my chances and with our likely dumping of Trump in November.
If you want to talk about trades, I like the Greek PM who told the EU to fuck off recently over the way EU tried to stick them with yet more debt. I also like Merkel. I'll take the Danish PM, or Norwegian or Italian PMs.
If you are offering Boris (UK) or the Swedish PM, no deal. I'd need time to think about it if you offered us the French leader.
DIY-HP-LED
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You are a bigot and a racist, a holdover from a past that will be swept away. This has turned you into a sucker and a fool, the fact you are carrying trump's water at this point in history proves this beyond any doubt. Your fear and hate has caused you to fuck yourself, just like millions of Americans.
DIY-HP-LED
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So what contributions have you made to your culture, history and language? Think other smart people can't help?
You got schooled on your growing capability so you came to Politics to solidify your idiocy?
DIY-HP-LED
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You are multilingual and not that stupid, hate and fear are driving this shit, you know better.
radiant Rudy
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Jimdamick
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I ripped this from Microsoft News.
Good piece of work
Trump has attempted to make law and order his calling card in the 2020 election. In fact, he’s tweeted or retweeted the words “LAW & ORDER” — in ALL CAPS — more than two dozen times since May 31.
The same president just commuted the sentence of a political ally, Roger Stone, who was recently convicted of seven crimes, including ones aimed at shielding the president himself.
The first thing that jumps out at you about Trump’s pardons and commutations is the inordinate number of them which have gone to people with either personal or political ties to Trump (or both): Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D’Souza, Conrad Black, Bernard Kerik, Rod Blagojevich, Michael Milken, Paul Pogue, David Safavian, Eddie DeBartolo Jr. and now Stone. It’s hardly unheard-of for a president to pardon allies — see Marc Rich et al. — but Trump has taken it to another level.
And the Stone clemency both reinforces this pattern and brings it to an entirely different level. The five counts of lying Stone was found guilty of included his effort to obscure his contacts with WikiLeaks, which published information on Democrats as part of Russia’s effort to interfere in the 2016 election. Trump is, quite literally, pardoning crimes that served to protect himself personally.
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) summed it up accordingly on Saturday morning: “Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.”
Beyond the obvious political implications, though, are the types crimes for which Trump has pardoned people or commuted their sentences. Here’s a look at the crimes for which the law-and-order president has opted to unilaterally circumvent justice.
For one, Trump appears to be the first modern president to pardon someone for murder, and he’s done it three times — twice for military members who had been convicted and once for a soldier who was facing trial.
Part of the reason presidents haven’t pardoned murderers is that murder is generally a state crime, and presidents can’t pardon state offenses. But even given that, Trump’s record on this is extraordinary, given the nature of the crime and how many times he’s done it.
Other pardons and commutations had to do with blatant issues of public corruption. Blagojevich is the most obvious one, but Kerik too was accused by the judge of trading on his public profile after 9/11 to enrich himself. The judge said Kerik using “that event for personal gain and aggrandizement is a dark place in the soul for me.” And Arpaio explicitly and deliberately refused to follow the legal order of a judge. These officials have flouted the law in rather extraordinary ways for public officials, yet the drain-the-swamp president has seen fit to cut each of them a break.
Another way Trump has broken with past precedent is that he generally disregards the Justice Department reviews that usually precede clemency. Instead, lobbying him for pardons is often done through Fox News or fellow administration officials.
The Stone clemency is in a class by itself, though — both because of Trump’s personal ties to the case and because of the underlying subject. It’s one thing to protect a political ally who was apparently trying to protect you; it’s another to subjugate justice of someone who lied about his contacts related to an effort to illegally interfere in an American election. Trump has said Stone has been treated unfairly — his usual defense of clemency for political allies — but he hasn’t really explained how, beyond suggesting the case was politically motivated and part of the Russia “hoax” and “witch hunt.”
But if you look at the lies Stone told, it’s pretty cut and dried. He lied repeatedly, and to Congress. He also threatened a witness. He was convicted on all seven counts.
Trump and his allies often suggest that, because special counsel Robert S. Mueller III could not prove a conspiracy existed between the Trump campaign and Russia, any such attempts to obstruct that investigation or lie to investigators — whether Stone, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos or anyone else — aren’t real crimes. But there needn’t be an underlying crime in order for you to obstruct and investigation and to be guilty of lying about it. Indeed, that obstruction can be the very reason no crime is ultimately proven.
Beyond that, though, all of this flies in the face of both Trump’s law-and-order and drain-the-swamp mantras. He’s supplanting his own judgment in some very high-profile ways for the judgments of the legal system, and he’s done it overwhelmingly for his own allies and comparatively few others. Trump is allowed to provide clemency to virtually any federal crime he wants, but the instances in which he’s chosen to exercise that power speak volumes.
For all you that are going to vote against Trump, get your mail in ballots NOW!!!!.
One reason is of course COVID-19 which is guaranteed to strain the system & create a nightmare at the polling stations.
But another good reason is that if/when Trump loses due to mail in ballots, it will drive him FUCKING INSANE!!!!
My state of Connecticut is waving the usual limitations on mail in voting (i.e. away or disabled) & I'm definitely using it
All you Trump voters, be my guest & show your True American Spirit & solidarity with your Fuhrer & show up at the polling stations with no masks or social distancing (I ain't no snowflake
) & infect the shit out each other.
That would be fun too watch.
This song fits, I think
Good piece of work
Trump has attempted to make law and order his calling card in the 2020 election. In fact, he’s tweeted or retweeted the words “LAW & ORDER” — in ALL CAPS — more than two dozen times since May 31.
The same president just commuted the sentence of a political ally, Roger Stone, who was recently convicted of seven crimes, including ones aimed at shielding the president himself.
The first thing that jumps out at you about Trump’s pardons and commutations is the inordinate number of them which have gone to people with either personal or political ties to Trump (or both): Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D’Souza, Conrad Black, Bernard Kerik, Rod Blagojevich, Michael Milken, Paul Pogue, David Safavian, Eddie DeBartolo Jr. and now Stone. It’s hardly unheard-of for a president to pardon allies — see Marc Rich et al. — but Trump has taken it to another level.
And the Stone clemency both reinforces this pattern and brings it to an entirely different level. The five counts of lying Stone was found guilty of included his effort to obscure his contacts with WikiLeaks, which published information on Democrats as part of Russia’s effort to interfere in the 2016 election. Trump is, quite literally, pardoning crimes that served to protect himself personally.
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) summed it up accordingly on Saturday morning: “Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.”
Beyond the obvious political implications, though, are the types crimes for which Trump has pardoned people or commuted their sentences. Here’s a look at the crimes for which the law-and-order president has opted to unilaterally circumvent justice.
- Lying about contacts involving a man, Julian Assange, who served as a conduit for Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. election and who is currently under indictment (Stone)
- Three war crimes, including two murders (Clint Lorance)
- Murder (Michael Behenna)
- Alleged murder (Mathew Golsteyn)
- Arson that burned 139 acres of federal land (Steven and Dwight Hammond)
- Corruptly trying to sell a U.S. Senate seat for personal gain (Blagojevich)
- Using his high profile after the 9/11 attacks to commit tax fraud (Kerik)
- Refusing a judge’s order to stop detaining people suspected of being undocumented immigrants (Arpaio)
For one, Trump appears to be the first modern president to pardon someone for murder, and he’s done it three times — twice for military members who had been convicted and once for a soldier who was facing trial.
Part of the reason presidents haven’t pardoned murderers is that murder is generally a state crime, and presidents can’t pardon state offenses. But even given that, Trump’s record on this is extraordinary, given the nature of the crime and how many times he’s done it.
Other pardons and commutations had to do with blatant issues of public corruption. Blagojevich is the most obvious one, but Kerik too was accused by the judge of trading on his public profile after 9/11 to enrich himself. The judge said Kerik using “that event for personal gain and aggrandizement is a dark place in the soul for me.” And Arpaio explicitly and deliberately refused to follow the legal order of a judge. These officials have flouted the law in rather extraordinary ways for public officials, yet the drain-the-swamp president has seen fit to cut each of them a break.
Another way Trump has broken with past precedent is that he generally disregards the Justice Department reviews that usually precede clemency. Instead, lobbying him for pardons is often done through Fox News or fellow administration officials.
The Stone clemency is in a class by itself, though — both because of Trump’s personal ties to the case and because of the underlying subject. It’s one thing to protect a political ally who was apparently trying to protect you; it’s another to subjugate justice of someone who lied about his contacts related to an effort to illegally interfere in an American election. Trump has said Stone has been treated unfairly — his usual defense of clemency for political allies — but he hasn’t really explained how, beyond suggesting the case was politically motivated and part of the Russia “hoax” and “witch hunt.”
But if you look at the lies Stone told, it’s pretty cut and dried. He lied repeatedly, and to Congress. He also threatened a witness. He was convicted on all seven counts.
Trump and his allies often suggest that, because special counsel Robert S. Mueller III could not prove a conspiracy existed between the Trump campaign and Russia, any such attempts to obstruct that investigation or lie to investigators — whether Stone, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos or anyone else — aren’t real crimes. But there needn’t be an underlying crime in order for you to obstruct and investigation and to be guilty of lying about it. Indeed, that obstruction can be the very reason no crime is ultimately proven.
Beyond that, though, all of this flies in the face of both Trump’s law-and-order and drain-the-swamp mantras. He’s supplanting his own judgment in some very high-profile ways for the judgments of the legal system, and he’s done it overwhelmingly for his own allies and comparatively few others. Trump is allowed to provide clemency to virtually any federal crime he wants, but the instances in which he’s chosen to exercise that power speak volumes.
For all you that are going to vote against Trump, get your mail in ballots NOW!!!!.
One reason is of course COVID-19 which is guaranteed to strain the system & create a nightmare at the polling stations.
But another good reason is that if/when Trump loses due to mail in ballots, it will drive him FUCKING INSANE!!!!
My state of Connecticut is waving the usual limitations on mail in voting (i.e. away or disabled) & I'm definitely using it
All you Trump voters, be my guest & show your True American Spirit & solidarity with your Fuhrer & show up at the polling stations with no masks or social distancing (I ain't no snowflake
) & infect the shit out each other.That would be fun too watch.
This song fits, I think
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DIY-HP-LED
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Eastern or western european? You ain't giving up much by telling us where you are from, unless you are ashamed of your country and not even Americans have gone that low yet. They are only ashamed of their POTUS and a particular party that supports him, they love their country, which is why they will take it back
Jimdamick
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Well, scratch one vote for Trump in November (Felons can't vote
)I start speaking of Trump in this post but no problem. Look my friend in I watch TV like a sheep and they tell me over and over that you are a bad person then I will hate you without even know who you are but if we didn't watch TV maybe we were best friends. I started writing here to give you an idea of how we see Trump from Europe. But supporting Trump and Putin makes me Nazi? Hitler fucked my country. Maybe I try to be logical in a stoned forum makes me a Nazi and friend of Hitler.
From the most beautiful, magic, corrupted, cash dry country in Europe. Say the name
topcat
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Meester Big want you stop moose and skwirrel, so obay, da komrad? Geet off wede syte in very short period of time.
Anser de kwestyun Leon.
DIY-HP-LED
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Ya think he's gonna gain or lose votes over it in nov? I figure he's good for another million vote loss over this shit, as some of those who still clung to him are falling off. Lafayette Park on June 1st was his waterloo, he lost many millions of votes over that fiasco, if getting killed by covid doesn't change their minds about these assholes, nothing will. When people face the danger of death they often introspect and think deeply about whether all this bullshit was worth the trouble, cost and now the risk. There is a consensus in the land James, a super majority is saying, "this stupid fuck has got to go ASAP"! Furthermore they are gonna go right down the blue side of the fucking ballot from POTUS to dog catcher, so the GOP senate better hang on real fucking tight. It's a good thing these cocksuckers won't be campaigning in person much, surely some would be killed or have the shit beaten out of them by spontaneous mobs.I ripped this from Microsoft News.
Good piece of work
Trump has attempted to make law and order his calling card in the 2020 election. In fact, he’s tweeted or retweeted the words “LAW & ORDER” — in ALL CAPS — more than two dozen times since May 31.
The same president just commuted the sentence of a political ally, Roger Stone, who was recently convicted of seven crimes, including ones aimed at shielding the president himself.
The first thing that jumps out at you about Trump’s pardons and commutations is the inordinate number of them which have gone to people with either personal or political ties to Trump (or both): Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D’Souza, Conrad Black, Bernard Kerik, Rod Blagojevich, Michael Milken, Paul Pogue, David Safavian, Eddie DeBartolo Jr. and now Stone. It’s hardly unheard-of for a president to pardon allies — see Marc Rich et al. — but Trump has taken it to another level.
And the Stone clemency both reinforces this pattern and brings it to an entirely different level. The five counts of lying Stone was found guilty of included his effort to obscure his contacts with WikiLeaks, which published information on Democrats as part of Russia’s effort to interfere in the 2016 election. Trump is, quite literally, pardoning crimes that served to protect himself personally.
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) summed it up accordingly on Saturday morning: “Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.”
Beyond the obvious political implications, though, are the types crimes for which Trump has pardoned people or commuted their sentences. Here’s a look at the crimes for which the law-and-order president has opted to unilaterally circumvent justice.
So it’s not just that Trump has been unusually willing to use his powers to pardon and grant clemency to aid allies; it’s also that he’s been willing to provide clemency for types of crimes previous presidents have avoided.
- Lying about contacts involving a man, Julian Assange, who served as a conduit for Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. election and who is currently under indictment (Stone)
- Three war crimes, including two murders (Clint Lorance)
- Murder (Michael Behenna)
- Alleged murder (Mathew Golsteyn)
- Arson that burned 139 acres of federal land (Steven and Dwight Hammond)
- Corruptly trying to sell a U.S. Senate seat for personal gain (Blagojevich)
- Using his high profile after the 9/11 attacks to commit tax fraud (Kerik)
- Refusing a judge’s order to stop detaining people suspected of being undocumented immigrants (Arpaio)
For one, Trump appears to be the first modern president to pardon someone for murder, and he’s done it three times — twice for military members who had been convicted and once for a soldier who was facing trial.
Part of the reason presidents haven’t pardoned murderers is that murder is generally a state crime, and presidents can’t pardon state offenses. But even given that, Trump’s record on this is extraordinary, given the nature of the crime and how many times he’s done it.
Other pardons and commutations had to do with blatant issues of public corruption. Blagojevich is the most obvious one, but Kerik too was accused by the judge of trading on his public profile after 9/11 to enrich himself. The judge said Kerik using “that event for personal gain and aggrandizement is a dark place in the soul for me.” And Arpaio explicitly and deliberately refused to follow the legal order of a judge. These officials have flouted the law in rather extraordinary ways for public officials, yet the drain-the-swamp president has seen fit to cut each of them a break.
Another way Trump has broken with past precedent is that he generally disregards the Justice Department reviews that usually precede clemency. Instead, lobbying him for pardons is often done through Fox News or fellow administration officials.
The Stone clemency is in a class by itself, though — both because of Trump’s personal ties to the case and because of the underlying subject. It’s one thing to protect a political ally who was apparently trying to protect you; it’s another to subjugate justice of someone who lied about his contacts related to an effort to illegally interfere in an American election. Trump has said Stone has been treated unfairly — his usual defense of clemency for political allies — but he hasn’t really explained how, beyond suggesting the case was politically motivated and part of the Russia “hoax” and “witch hunt.”
But if you look at the lies Stone told, it’s pretty cut and dried. He lied repeatedly, and to Congress. He also threatened a witness. He was convicted on all seven counts.
Trump and his allies often suggest that, because special counsel Robert S. Mueller III could not prove a conspiracy existed between the Trump campaign and Russia, any such attempts to obstruct that investigation or lie to investigators — whether Stone, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos or anyone else — aren’t real crimes. But there needn’t be an underlying crime in order for you to obstruct and investigation and to be guilty of lying about it. Indeed, that obstruction can be the very reason no crime is ultimately proven.
Beyond that, though, all of this flies in the face of both Trump’s law-and-order and drain-the-swamp mantras. He’s supplanting his own judgment in some very high-profile ways for the judgments of the legal system, and he’s done it overwhelmingly for his own allies and comparatively few others. Trump is allowed to provide clemency to virtually any federal crime he wants, but the instances in which he’s chosen to exercise that power speak volumes.
For all you that are going to vote against Trump, get your mail in ballots NOW!!!!.
One reason is of course COVID-19 which is guaranteed to strain the system & create a nightmare at the polling stations.
But another good reason is that if/when Trump loses due to mail in ballots, it will drive him FUCKING INSANE!!!!
My state of Connecticut is waving the usual limitations on mail in voting (i.e. away or disabled) & I'm definitely using it
All you Trump voters, be my guest & show your True American Spirit & solidarity with your Fuhrer & show up at the polling stations with no masks or social distancing (I ain't no snowflake
That would be fun too watch.
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DIY-HP-LED
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greek
UncleBuck
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we can read your shitty English, nazi boi
Not very good English you Queen Elizabeth bitch