Considering hydroponics for my second grow

em091r

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So I feel as if I've done fairly well in soil and sure have learned a lot on my first grow (I'll post a pic also). I'm really considering hydroponics, but a bit overwhelmed by all the choices. What system do you use and why? How's the maintenance? What necessary or unnecessary things have you found to go with it? Any advice you wish you would have known or product suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I have a 5 x 5 gorilla shorty grow tent (with the extension on its 68 20200709_203155.jpg" and I intend to grow shorter style plants, but am considering buying the second extension.
 

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Fonzyyy21

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Ayeee, first time DWC grower! A Ph meter as well as some ph down/up is a must! Honestly I think getting an RO filter is a good idea too, and let's you control everything you give your girls! Every couple of days I have to top of with some nute water and Ph it down, with a full res swap at the end of every week!
I also think a good air pump is a must!

Now with hydro there are some things you gotta consider, like your water temp for your DWC buckets! You're aiming for somewhere between 64-68 degrees, that's where the most dissolved oxygen is in your water! Now if water temps go over 72 you run the chance of running root rot and other bad bacteria! So a water chiller could be the way to go. I run some hydroguard or silica in my water to protect the roots!

Honestly you have a big enough area and I would consider RDWC! That's the way I wanted to go, just not enough space for me!

Good luck if you go hydro my man!
 

em091r

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Ayeee, first time DWC grower! A Ph meter as well as some ph down/up is a must! Honestly I think getting an RO filter is a good idea too, and let's you control everything you give your girls! Every couple of days I have to top of with some nute water and Ph it down, with a full res swap at the end of every week!
I also think a good air pump is a must!

Now with hydro there are some things you gotta consider, like your water temp for your DWC buckets! You're aiming for somewhere between 64-68 degrees, that's where the most dissolved oxygen is in your water! Now if water temps go over 72 you run the chance of running root rot and other bad bacteria! So a water chiller could be the way to go. I run some hydroguard or silica in my water to protect the roots!

Honestly you have a big enough area and I would consider RDWC! That's the way I wanted to go, just not enough space for me!

Good luck if you go hydro my man!
Any specific brands?
 

Fonzyyy21

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Any specific brands?
For the R/O filter I'd recommend this one called RO buddie! I have no complaints my tap water is high 400 ppm and it gets it all the way down to about 7-9 ppm!
And the for meters and generic meter should work, but I here everyone rave about the bluelab meters (more expensive)
I have an active aqua air pump, but next time around I think I'll upgrade to the eco plus air pumps!
 

em091r

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For the R/O filter I'd recommend this one called RO buddie! I have no complaints my tap water is high 400 ppm and it gets it all the way down to about 7-9 ppm!
And the for meters and generic meter should work, but I here everyone rave about the bluelab meters (more expensive)
I have an active aqua air pump, but next time around I think I'll upgrade to the eco plus air pumps!
After looking into it, I'm considering a RDWC system. I see a lot of DIY options out there and may try my hand at it. We shall see haha!
 

Fonzyyy21

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After looking into it, I'm considering a RDWC system. I see a lot of DIY options out there and may try my hand at it. We shall see haha!
I'd love to see how it comes out!
RDWC is what I wanted to do! I think it's the way to go!
I hope all goes well! Good luck bud!
 

GBAUTO

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I've been using DWC/RDWC for 4 years now.
Although I've made some mistakes along the way, it's been pretty simple.
I think that using 10 to 12 gal totes running single plants is the easiest way to get started.
6" netlids and an air pump sufficient for the number of totes you want to run.
Either running a sterile system or using bennies like GFF or hydroguard will make it work.
 

Renfro

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RO filters, for the most part, all use the same style cartridges and are rather "universal" in nature. If you are looking at an RO filter you will need to estimate how many gallons per day you will require. They produce water at a slow rate and they do waste about 2/3 of the water, so if you produce 1 gallon of purified water you waste about 2 more gallons therefore consuming 3 gallons to make 1.

A stealth RO filter will waste less water if installed with the restrictor on the brine but it will also go through membranes more often.

Since the filter makes water slowly you will likely want a storage tank for your purified water. This will allow you to have enough water on hand to fill your system without waiting. Extra water is good, just in case you have a problem. There are multiple ways to go about a storage tank, the simplest is a 30 or 55 gallon plastic water drum elevated on cement blocks with a float valve (fill) and a 3/4" or 1" grommet, barbed elbow fitting and shut off valve. I set my drum up high enough that I can slide a 5 gallon bucket under the "spigot" and fill it up. You can also use a garden hose adapter if you wish.

A permeate booster pump is a good thing and if your water pressure is low you will want a booster pump as well. If buying a package deal on a system you really don't need the pressure tank but if you use a booster pump then you can use the tank on the input side to reduce short cycling of the booster pump, just put the check valve right after the pump.
 

Fonzyyy21

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I've been using DWC/RDWC for 4 years now.
Although I've made some mistakes along the way, it's been pretty simple.
I think that using 10 to 12 gal totes running single plants is the easiest way to get started.
6" netlids and an air pump sufficient for the number of totes you want to run.
Either running a sterile system or using bennies like GFF or hydroguard will make it work.
Shit I bet your grow trees in those big of totes! I'm running 5 gal buckets (again space restrictions) using bennies and trying to keep it sterile during res changes and I saw crazy growth with my girls! I can only imagine with a bigger home!
 

Fonzyyy21

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RO filters, for the most part, all use the same style cartridges and are rather "universal" in nature. If you are looking at an RO filter you will need to estimate how many gallons per day you will require. They produce water at a slow rate and they do waste about 2/3 of the water, so if you produce 1 gallon of purified water you waste about 2 more gallons therefore consuming 3 gallons to make 1.

A stealth RO filter will waste less water if installed with the restrictor on the brine but it will also go through membranes more often.

Since the filter makes water slowly you will likely want a storage tank for your purified water. This will allow you to have enough water on hand to fill your system without waiting. Extra water is good, just in case you have a problem. There are multiple ways to go about a storage tank, the simplest is a 30 or 55 gallon plastic water drum elevated on cement blocks with a float valve (fill) and a 3/4" or 1" grommet, barbed elbow fitting and shut off valve. I set my drum up high enough that I can slide a 5 gallon bucket under the "spigot" and fill it up. You can also use a garden hose adapter if you wish.

A permeate booster pump is a good thing and if your water pressure is low you will want a booster pump as well. If buying a package deal on a system you really don't need the pressure tank but if you use a booster pump then you can use the tank on the input side to reduce short cycling of the booster pump, just put the check valve right after the pump.
A1 info!
All things true and I absolutely forgot! I honestly have to wait about a day for my test to fill with ro water!
 

Renfro

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One problem I had with dwc trees in totes was the weight of the plant trying to punch the net pot down through the lid of the tote. lol Sturdy totes are the way to go. And don't under size those return lines because roots will want to plug them up.
 

Renfro

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Oh and those 3 inch bulk head fittings may cost more but they are a lot easier to get a seal with than uniseals.
 

GBAUTO

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Shit I bet your grow trees in those big of totes! I'm running 5 gal buckets (again space restrictions) using bennies and trying to keep it sterile during res changes and I saw crazy growth with my girls! I can only imagine with a bigger home!
Yep, I started in 5 gals but I always had issues with roots displacing too much of solution volume.
That's the primary reason I would use totes over buckets.
I found that the 6" netlids I used on the buckets have a large rim to spread out the weight of the plant on the top of the tote. No issues with some of the trees I've grown over the past 2 years.
 

twistedwords

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30 years of growing and tried every variation. Hempy all the way or its real name Dutch Bato buckets.

DWC can get you up to 15% more yield but with all the work and expense not worth it. Just plant one more plant to make up the 15%.

Aeroponics, super expensive and super touchy, not worth the 25% extra yield. Plant two more plants to make up for it.

Soil is for forgiveness and messy. You have to deal with bugs and other things. Like compost, not worth the time.
 

Davo68

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So I feel as if I've done fairly well in soil and sure have learned a lot on my first grow (I'll post a pic also). I'm really considering hydroponics, but a bit overwhelmed by all the choices. What system do you use and why? How's the maintenance? What necessary or unnecessary things have you found to go with it? Any advice you wish you would have known or product suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I have a 5 x 5 gorilla shorty grow tent (with the extension on its 68 View attachment 4621243" and I intend to grow shorter style plants, but am considering buying the second extension.
So I feel as if I've done fairly well in soil and sure have learned a lot on my first grow (I'll post a pic also). I'm really considering hydroponics, but a bit overwhelmed by all the choices. What system do you use and why? How's the maintenance? What necessary or unnecessary things have you found to go with it? Any advice you wish you would have known or product suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I have a 5 x 5 gorilla shorty grow tent (with the extension on its 68 View attachment 4621243" and I intend to grow shorter style plants, but am considering buying the second extension.
https://www.familyplotgarden.com/building-an-inexpensive-aeroponics-system.html
Hello
I built 4 of these but used two 6 inch netties in each instead of the 12 they are showing. The cost was under $50 each. I didn’t drill drain holes I use another pond pump with drain hose to pump out the water and reverse it to refill with nutes.
Never going back to soil!
 
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Davo68

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https://www.familyplotgarden.com/building-an-inexpensive-aeroponics-system.html
Hello
I built 4 of these but used two 6 inch netties in each instead of the 12 they are showing. The cost was under $50 each. I didn’t drill drain holes I use another pond pump with drain hose to pump out the water and reverse it to refill with nutes.
Never going back to soil!
Almost forgot ( toke toke) I used Two air stones in each bin one under each nettie laying on the bottom. I used a good air pump with an 8 way gang valve and black air hose
 

em091r

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So I am finally ready to start building this and about to harvest my first grow hopefully next weekend! We decided on using a 4 site RWDC system that we are building ourself. The plants will live in 5 gallon black buckets with sturdy lids with 6" nettipots (also sturdy with a wide thick lip). Our media will be clay pebbles. We are using a 20 gallon tote for our reservoir and plan on using hydrogard. We are still going to start our seeds in root riot cubes, as we had success last time and they are safe for hydro. We arent getting a chiller at this time, as it wasnt quite in the budget. I did contemplate taking a couple bottles of water and freezing and putting them in the reservoir and rotating day/ night if it gets too hot. We are using uniseals and 1 1/2" PVC and a submersible 800 gallon per hour pump in the res. It also will have another pump going to an airstone in each site. Seems to blow decent bubbles when I tested it earlier. I'm excited to see how it all sets up. Thanks for all the ideas, I will post pictures when its done!
 
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