Anyone running their setup on solar?

[Keesje]

For sure it works, but at what costs?
Lithium-Ion is just not the technology for powerplants, cities or neighbourhoods.

What is also smart of Tesla is that they saw the potential of home batteries much earlier then others.
And their design is great.
But the price is outrageous, and it will not last forever. It has a limited life span of a certain amount of cycles.

You are right about the waiting.
You can wait till solarpanels reach 35%.
But efficiency did raise by small numbers in the last 10 years.
Nothing wrong with buying cheaper ones with less efficiency if you have the land to place them on.
If you have space you could better look at how much Watts it is producing per $

 

[Lucky Luke]

just need the goverment to step up with insentive scheems now and money for subsidising people to get the panels and inverters they need

We were initialy pissed atthe system being twice the size and utalising only half the potential power, but when we looked atit on paper, we didn't have to pay for more solar panels and system to be put in place, it was a subsidised system we had installed cant remember detailes.
so we just need another inverter installed for the double sised system and strait to grid, or i get 4kw of panels to play around with.

ive been debating it for a few years. State Gov here will give me a $10k interest free loan to install it. My power bills are round $800 a 1/4. (my grow is smaller than Bully's and different states) Im mad not to and feed it back to the grid until the powerwalls get more affordable. But i still havent pulled the trigger...

 

[Lucky Luke]

Swear ive seen a full solar outback indoor on u tube or somewhere.

 

[go go kid]

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[go go kid]

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[reza92]

For sure it works, but at what costs?
Lithium-Ion is just not the technology for powerplants, cities or neighbourhoods.

What is also smart of Tesla is that they saw the potential of home batteries much earlier then others.
And their design is great.
But the price is outrageous, and it will not last forever. It has a limited life span of a certain amount of cycles.

You are right about the waiting.
You can wait till solarpanels reach 35%.
But efficiency did raise by small numbers in the last 10 years.
Nothing wrong with buying cheaper ones with less efficiency if you have the land to place them on.
If you have space you could better look at how much Watts it is producing per $

Large scale grid storage will unlikely be lithium ion batteries which are more suited to smaller scales like cars and individual homes. Grid storage will come from things like pumped hydro or kinetic batteries.

solar panels are unlikely to exceed 15-20% efficiency, same as wind turbines etc. the advantage of solar, and wind is you can have them spread across land that’s still usable for other things like running stock etc.

 

[Keesje]

solar panels are unlikely to exceed 15-20% efficiency,

29%

 

[reza92]

29%

maybe in a solar driven turbine but unlikely in pv pannels which is where most if not all the market will be.

I think the main issue that needs to be addressed (more than the efficiency issue) is recycling. Pv pannels need to be almost completely recyclable for it to be truely green because atm they’re just a heap of waste once they get old.

 

[go go kid]

there a waste just making them, when the panels are cut, uou loose the same amount of material used to make a panel in the first place.
Iwatched a documentry on new methods of manufacture, where the dragged two metal wires up through a molten pot of solar panel material, this was a breakthrough. i also remember them doubleing up and tripaling up on layers so the sunlight penatrating one panel would be picked up on the second and therd if needed. not sure ware we stand today

 

[end_of_the_tunnel]

'normal' batteries will take a long time before they catch up with solar technology.
And even then they will be fucking expensive.
The future is in different kinds of electricity storing.

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I saw this setup running myself

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It costs only a fraction of the tesla batteries and are way more eco friendly.
Of course not every house has space for this, but a small neighbourhood could run on a battery the size of a private pool.

Interesting technology. With such a large mass of fluid, maybe engineers could incorporate the battery into the design of buildings where such a mass of liquid could also provide thermal sink. Pretty sure Iaw an Australian Grand Designs type episode where a house used a large central tank for thermal environmental aspect?

Please read "law" as saw.

 

[Keesje]

The Blue Energy is already tested in the Netherlands.
Where a river (sweet water) is meeting the sea (salt water) they builded installations.
It is still in an experimentel phase but it looks good.

 

[reza92]

The Blue Energy is already tested in the Netherlands.
Where a river (sweet water) is meeting the sea (salt water) they builded installations.
It is still in an experimentel phase but it looks good.

that technology won’t see the market inside a decade.

 

[Keesje]

that technology won’t see the market inside a decade.

And why is that, you think?
I am not saying it will, but you are very sure, so I was wondering why.

 

[reza92]

And why is that, you think?
I am not saying it will, but you are very sure, so I was wondering why.

For starters it’s still in the r&d phase and small at that. It next needs to be scaled than there’s actually getting it to a market ready item, tooling factory lines etc etc and that all takes time.

 

[led1k]

For starters it’s still in the r&d phase and small at that. It next needs to be scaled than there’s actually getting it to a market ready item, tooling factory lines etc etc and that all takes time.

The tech is simple and cheap and it stores juice... what's not to love? Much sooner than a decade imho.

 

[sarahJane211]

I'm running 5 panels now.

 

[led1k]

I'm running 5 panels now.
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What size (watts) are they?

 

[sarahJane211]

What size (watts) are they?

All 330w, but they ain't producing much in the monsoon.
I normally average 1 unit per panel per day ....... but this month is the wettest in more than a year.