Question about adding GH LiquidKoolBloom

[RANGERTHEDOG]

Hi All,
This may be a stupid question, but I'm looking at a couple of my flowering plants in week 6 being well behind my other 2 plants. I'm scrogging and they also happen to be the plants with the most buds sites as they were only LST and not Topped plus LST. I am thinking that they could use a PK boost. I'm Using GH flora trio and been dosing to the drain to waste chart and am on week 6 of flowering now. So I was looking at the other adds and started thinking about the KoolBloom and adding that in for the plants that seem to need a bit more ppms in the PK area.

So here's my question can I just add extra Florabloom to get essentially the same effect since both are PK only nutes or is there something else special about KoolBloom? If I can just add more Florabloom so how much additional would you add to equal the dose recommendation of KoolBloom?

I'm in soil which is essentially bankrupt now and plants needs everything bottle fed at this point.

 

[BobThe420Builder]

They are a bit different
Florabloom has mag and other stuffs
Koolbloom is just a PK booster

I'm not a fan of mixing your OWN brew of nutes to do something, it maybe do something, or it could work theory
Go by the schedule, and add koolbloom in flower. It works and helps

I use GH GH Flora Trio in DWC with great results

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

Funny enough I had a similar thought/situation with this.

Is it exactly the same? No.

We cannot just look at N-P-K and assume that the other macros and micros will be equivalent to something like FloraBloom. That being said I just starting using LiquidKoolBloom and my girls are thriving in mid-late bloom. Try adding .5mL/gal, but you shouldn't be having deficiencies if you're using a proper pH and nutrient concentration

 

[spek9]

Hi All,
This may be a stupid question, but I'm looking at a couple of my flowering plants in week 6 being well behind my other 2 plants. I'm scrogging and they also happen to be the plants with the most buds sites as they were only LST and not Topped plus LST. I am thinking that they could use a PK boost. I'm Using GH flora trio and been dosing to the drain to waste chart and am on week 6 of flowering now. So I was looking at the other adds and started thinking about the KoolBloom and adding that in for the plants that seem to need a bit more ppms in the PK area.

So here's my question can I just add extra Florabloom to get essentially the same effect since both are PK only nutes or is there something else special about KoolBloom? If I can just add more Florabloom so how much additional would you add to equal the dose recommendation of KoolBloom?

I'm in soil which is essentially bankrupt now and plants needs everything bottle fed at this point.

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You do not need to, nor should you add anything further to the GH Flora trio. It contains all your plants need.

Adding extra K & P from a separate bottle can easily and quickly lead to over fertilization.

 

[BobThe420Builder]

You do not need to, nor should you add anything further to the GH Flora trio. It contains all your plants need.

Adding extra K & P from a separate bottle can easily and quickly lead to over fertilization.

I disagree

Things like tap vs RO play a big part in the process
I always run RO water, add Calmag, koolbloom and terpinator in my DWC grows

That said

In my Promix HP and Mega Crop grows now, I don't add anything at all and am using my terrible tap water

 

[spek9]

Things like tap vs RO play a big part in the process

We were not speaking of things like Cal-Mag. The conversation was strictly about adding extra bottles of P & K to the GH Flora trio.

I ran GH Flora for more than six straight years. Nothing more is needed (again, Cal-Mag is not included. If one needs extra Ca and Mg, that's outside of the scope here).

 

[BobThe420Builder]

Sure you can run just GH if u want

Go for it

 

[RANGERTHEDOG]

You do not need to, nor should you add anything further to the GH Flora trio. It contains all your plants need.

Adding extra K & P from a separate bottle can easily and quickly lead to over fertilization.

Would you increase the amount of Bloom in the mix for a plant that's lagging? This plant is behind and is always using up all the nutes I put into my feed. If I put in 940ppm, thats what my run off is every time. The other plants usually leave come out aroudn 1050 or there a bouts. I'm new to this but my thinking is if its using up everything I give it and is still behind the others in terms of bud weight and density then it needs a little more...

I'm going to take a week and see, I just did this weeks feeding as per the schedule since it calls for reduced gro and a 2ml per gallon increase of Bloom.

 

[spek9]

Would you increase the amount of Bloom in the mix for a plant that's lagging? This plant is behind and is always using up all the nutes I put into my feed. If I put in 940ppm, thats what my run off is every time. The other plants usually leave come out aroudn 1050 or there a bouts. I'm new to this but my thinking is if its using up everything I give it and is still behind the others in terms of bud weight and density then it needs a little more...

I'm going to take a week and see, I just did this weeks feeding as per the schedule since it calls for reduced gro and a 2ml per gallon increase of Bloom.

I never test runoff, so I'm unsure about that.

However, if my plants are showing specific deficiencies, then yes, I increase the amount of that specific nutrient if possible. If not, then increase the bottle or bag of product that contains that nutrient.

 

[RANGERTHEDOG]

Funny enough I had a similar thought/situation with this.

Is it exactly the same? No.

We cannot just look at N-P-K and assume that the other macros and micros will be equivalent to something like FloraBloom. That being said I just starting using LiquidKoolBloom and my girls are thriving in mid-late bloom. Try adding .5mL/gal, but you shouldn't be having deficiencies if you're using a proper pH and nutrient concentration

Thanks, I'm going to watch this week as the schedule called for a bump in bloom anyway and if that plant still lags then my next feed I might try some koolBloom in a small amount at first as you suggested. It's helpful to hear you are having good results with it, are you in soil as well?

 

[TintEastwood]

GH, Koolbloom and other breakdowns.

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

Would you increase the amount of Bloom in the mix for a plant that's lagging? This plant is behind and is always using up all the nutes I put into my feed. If I put in 940ppm, thats what my run off is every time. The other plants usually leave come out aroudn 1050 or there a bouts. I'm new to this but my thinking is if its using up everything I give it and is still behind the others in terms of bud weight and density then it needs a little more...

I'm going to take a week and see, I just did this weeks feeding as per the schedule since it calls for reduced gro and a 2ml per gallon increase of Bloom.

If you see a deficiency, use the same ratios as the recommended feedchart, but increase the concentration.

 

[RANGERTHEDOG]

If you see a deficiency, use the same ratios as the recommended feedchart, but increase the concentration.

Why would I add more Nitrogen(FLoraMicro) if I'm seeing a potassium deficiency? Wouldn't you just want to increase bloom?

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

Why would I add more Nitrogen(FLoraMicro) if I'm seeing a potassium deficiency? Wouldn't you just want to increase bloom?

Majority of your nitrogen comes from FloraGro not FloraMicro. If you’re in mid bloom you’re not using FloraGrow at all. Increase your concentration of micro, bloom, kool bloom, and Cali magic while maintaining the recommended ratios

 

[RANGERTHEDOG]

Majority of your nitrogen comes from FloraGro not FloraMicro. If you’re in mid bloom you’re not using FloraGrow at all. Increase your concentration of micro, bloom, kool bloom, and Cali magic while maintaining the recommended ratios

Micro has much more nitrogen than gro..

Micro 5-0-1
Gro 2-1-6

 

[HomegrownGenetics420]

Micro has much more nitrogen than gro..

Correct, but you’ll also have an abundance of micros if you rely on adding FloraMicro as a direct source of nitrogen.
You can definitely experiment with just adding Florabloom or KoolBloom if you’re certain you have a deficiency. My general recommendation is just to increase the concentration in the same ratios on the feed chart. Trying to isolate one element instead of looking at the nutrient solution as a whole, can lead to problems

 

[RANGERTHEDOG]

Correct, but you’ll also have an abundance of micros if you rely on adding FloraMicro as a direct source of nitrogen.
You can definitely experiment with just adding Florabloom or KoolBloom if you’re certain you have a deficiency. My general recommendation is just to increase the concentration in the same ratios on the feed chart. Trying to isolate one element instead of looking at the nutrient solution as a whole, can lead to problemsView attachment 4623931

I don't think I'm deficient per say - I was 2-3 weeks back as I was underfeeding(you can find that post and results from upping feeding in my history) but now I have healthy plants there are just 1 out of 4 that are lagging. I have 1 that's are trichrome heavy with buds that increase in diameter daily and 2 that seem to be about a week behind that one and the last one seems like 2+ weeks behind in terms of bud development. The one that's behind also has by far the most budsites, it was LST only as I was experimenting with different training techniques. I'm wondering now if that's all it is, as I type this the plant with the fewest budsites is most mature and biggest buds, the middle two have more bud but not that much more and are close behind and the laggart has a tonne of bud that it needs to develop and its just going to take a lot longer for that plant to mature out all those buds.

 

[TintEastwood]

Micro has much more nitrogen than gro..

Micro 5-0-1
Gro 2-1-6

The ppm breakdowns for all 3 are on post 11 above.

 

[jeepster1993]

So, I thought I heard the GH Kool Blooms has an additive in it, a hormone. A hormone the bottle labels as other ingredients.

Saying that...
I have used it. It does enlarge the buds, I suppose, but also can make them foxtail(not a terrible thing).

 

[RANGERTHEDOG]

So, I thought I heard the GH Kool Blooms has an additive in it, a hormone. A hormone the bottle labels as other ingredients.

Saying that...
I have used it. It does enlarge the buds, I suppose, but also can make them foxtail(not a terrible thing).

How was the taste of the final product?