What is going on with these ladies?

youngwun11

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I have had this problem for a few weeks now it seemed like it was getting better but I built my trellis today and was thinning everything out and it actually looks worse I have gave plain phed water with about 20% run off yesterday

Nutes I’m using is mills full line -vitalize I just started using stout msr at 1ml per gal and cal-mag I have been giving light feedings because I thought this was possible nute burn2F32FE46-CB3A-4AC0-A7B8-D132862CCAB6.jpeg7FF64A21-8B79-4EAB-84D1-B1CFF21477A1.jpeg0F24E655-0EB1-4FF0-B9DF-1BCAEC442342.jpeg
 

Aussieaceae

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Did you use coco coir?
If so did you get in block or loose form? And did you pre rinse / lime before use?
 

Aussieaceae

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I am using fox farms coco loco first time ever using it and I did not pre rinse it
Ok, I only say it because I've had the misfortune of dirty coir more than once.

I'm not going to suggest that it's dirty coco and to get right on to it. But if you keep getting inexplicable lockout, dry sandpapery leaves, or rust spots on the lowers I would consider it a possibility.
You say you're going light on the fertilizer and that's probably a good place to start to be honest. I can only really suggest how I'd go about it myself and that would be top dressing a small amount of dolomite lime on top to start. I would keep an eye on them for a few days and take things from there.
If there was no obvious improvement after a few days, measure the EC of your waste and see if there's much difference. If the coco is dirty and leaching salt, the waste EC will likely be a fair bit higher than your input.
If the EC was about the same or lower, i'd consider increasing fertilizer amount, or adjusting it's profile.

I'll be honest too, I found lime to be much better than just adding calmag to my nutrient. For the reason I didn't have to continuously feed them throughout the day. They would be fine for several weeks, but slowly deficiency would start showing up and i'd have to be feeding several times a day, just to keep them healthy looking. Limeing the coco after i'd rinsed it before potting up helped a hell of a lot. Watering several times a day became 1 or 2 at the most. Supplementing calmag went way down too.

That's my 2 cents and for what it's worth, it was large block form coco and from the local hardware. Though still majority of coco coir will all come from the same sources and depends on how well it's been washed and prepared for sale by your supplier.

As I say don't take this post as something to act on straight away, but if you keep having the same thing happening and feel like you can't figure out why, i'd question the coco.

Good luck and all the best.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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You just explained exactly what my leaves look like I did more moving around and looking today I will post a better pic
I’m not discounting that it may be the coco coir since people seem to constantly have problems with that, but I have to ask why the damage is so random on the plant. If it were a systemic issue, as opposed to wind, wouldn’t you expect it to be more uniform?

Look at the photos you’ve posted. Some leaves look perfect, while others are only damaged around the edges. This looks like wind damage.
 

youngwun11

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I’m not discounting that it may be the coco coir since people seem to constantly have problems with that, but I have to ask why the damage is so random on the plant. If it were a systemic issue, as opposed to wind, wouldn’t you expect it to be more uniform?

Look at the photos you’ve posted. Some leaves look perfect, while others are only damaged around the edges. This looks like wind damage.
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inth3shadowz

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I bought a fan that even on the low setting was pretty powerful. A few weeks hitting on a few of mine, and they had leaves that look JUST like this. BUT, I also had quite a few fungus gnats at the time. I honestly can't say which one was the cause, but I put sand on the top for the gnats, and moved the fan and that issue stopped lol.
 

Mrs. Weedstein

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I bought a fan that even on the low setting was pretty powerful. A few weeks hitting on a few of mine, and they had leaves that look JUST like this. BUT, I also had quite a few fungus gnats at the time. I honestly can't say which one was the cause, but I put sand on the top for the gnats, and moved the fan and that issue stopped lol.
But if the plant were more densely leaved, I think there might be fewer problems with wind damage. It could be the light needs to be closer or stronger. I don’t have nearly that much room between leaf sites and nodes. Not criticizing or bragging, just trying to help.
 

sportyridr

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I don't know about wind/fan blown. Has there been any heat issues as I see some leaf tacoing going on? That along with some nute issues? What is your pH?

You haven't gave us much info re your grow

Hope ya get to bottom of it?
 
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