To Till or Not

Parrottroop

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Hi all, so I wanted to get thoughts on something. I am currently growing white widow autos indoors, which are currently at the flowering stage. After a flush on Saturday (there was some nute build up and the flush helped immensely), I’m thinking about my next watering. Obviously I’m waiting for the pots to feel light, but it seems that the top inch or so of soil (FF Happy Frog) is bone dry, while the pots still feel heavy and are clearly moist down below. I’ve read that gently tilling the top inch or two of soil would be helpful.

I think it may be a bit of a drainage issue as I didn’t use perlite (I’ll be using 25% next time).

What do you all think? To till or not to till?
 

JewelRunner

Well-Known Member
Hi all, so I wanted to get thoughts on something. I am currently growing white widow autos indoors, which are currently at the flowering stage. After a flush on Saturday (there was some nute build up and the flush helped immensely), I’m thinking about my next watering. Obviously I’m waiting for the pots to feel light, but it seems that the top inch or so of soil (FF Happy Frog) is bone dry, while the pots still feel heavy and are clearly moist down below. I’ve read that gently tilling the top inch or two of soil would be helpful.

I think it may be a bit of a drainage issue as I didn’t use perlite (I’ll be using 25% next time).

What do you all think? To till or not to till?
I wouldn’t till. Add perlite next time, also consider running in cloth pots.
 

T macc

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If you're using nutes, I wouldn't worry about tilling. Top tilling (or whatever the proper name is) can be beneficial if you've been running no-till for a couple cycles
 

JewelRunner

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Do you mean topdressing?
What are you feeding your plants if anything? You said there might be salt build up so it sounds like you’re feeding something. No-till is growing organically in a quality organic mix(like coots) In larger(at minimum 15 gal) containers. You reuse media every run without tilling or disturbing except to transplant.
 

PadawanWarrior

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What are you feeding your plants if anything? You said there might be salt build up so it sounds like you’re feeding something. No-till is growing organically in a quality organic mix(like coots) In larger(at minimum 15 gal) containers. You reuse media every run without tilling or disturbing except to transplant.
I think you're responding to the wrong person. I've been growing no-till in 15 gal pots for awhile now. I'm still figuring it all out though. I mostly just topdress them with dry amendments and give plain water.
 

T macc

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Do you mean topdressing?
Pretty much. Theres no-till, low-till, and high-till. Low-till is what I meant to say. Just disturbs the herd in the top soil. In an outdoor plot, you wouldn't dig a big hole, just scratch and amend the first 6 inches of soil.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Pretty much. Theres no-till, low-till, and high-till. Low-till is what I meant to say. Just disturbs the herd in the top soil. In an outdoor plot, you wouldn't dig a big hole, just scratch and amend the first 6 inches of soil.
Never heard of low-till or high-till. I move my rice hull mulch layer to the side and add dry amendments. Then I mix it into the top a little. Move the rice hulls and do the other side of the pots. Then water of course. My worms get kinda pissed when I do that though so I try to be gentle. Another thing I'll do is just mix the dry nutrients with some EWC and pumice, and then I don't need to mix it in and piss off the worms. I do both though.
 

T macc

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I don't think you meant low-till. I just looked up what it was. I can't find anything on high-till.
You probably right. I forgot what the term is for tilling the top soil. High till is pretty much dumping your soil and mixing it all up again.
Forgive me, I'm on Oxy's right now and my brain is a little fogged

 

PadawanWarrior

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You probably right. I forgot what the term is for tilling the top soil. High till is pretty much dumping your soil and mixing it all up again.
Forgive me, I'm on Oxy's right now and my brain is a little fogged

That's good stuff, but addictive to me. I still have a few in case we actually need them, but I try to stick with just weed and beer. The beer could actually go, but I'll smoke weed for life.
 

T macc

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That's good stuff, but addictive to me. I still have a few in case we actually need them, but I try to stick with just weed and beer. The beer could actually go, but I'll smoke weed for life.
I'm too broke to drink now, harvest isn't until September. I found these in my co-op house, so I just been on these for 3 days now. I hate them. I have to remind myself that overdosing is real and to be careful. Found something like 150 pills, so I need a new type of clientele to get rid of them.
 
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