Should I harvest? N Tox and stunted growth of buds

SamRD

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Guys I need help. Unfortunately I got massive N tox and I believe that/s the reason my buds didn't grow. Not much bud at all, this is the plant.

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It's an auto on the 11 week. I haven't seen much growth for a while and pistils are amber and falling off the buds. Should I harvest now?

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Kassiopeija

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hmmm leaves seem to be in a healthy state, just give it some more light and you should see its buds develop properly within the next month... just keep it that way and try to aim for 40-70k lux/ 700-900 ppfd at tops



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Mrs. Weedstein

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Guys I need help. Unfortunately I got massive N tox and I believe that/s the reason my buds didn't grow. Not much bud at all, this is the plant.

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It's an auto on the 11 week. I haven't seen much growth for a while and pistils are amber and falling off the buds. Should I harvest now?

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I may be speaking out of turn, but does it really matter if the pistils are turning amber? You may be confusing with trichomes. I’ve got a photoperiod plant about 6 weeks since flip, a ton of pistils turning red, but I fully intend to let her go another 5-6 weeks:
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SamRD

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Buds still have a long way to go.
I may be speaking out of turn, but does it really matter if the pistils are turning amber? You may be confusing with trichomes. I’ve got a photoperiod plant about 6 weeks since flip, a ton of pistils turning red, but I fully intend to let her go another 5-6 weeks:
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This is an auto plant thats supposed to be harvested around 11 weeks, it it ok to leave it another 4-6 weeks?
 

SamRD

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hmmm leaves seem to be in a healthy state, just give it some more light and you should see its buds develop properly within the next month... just keep it that way and try to aim for 40-70k lux/ 700-900 ppfd at tops




Don’t see any N tox. Looks like you have a low powered light - which is going to affect your yields hugely!
Also, what is your basis for the diagnosis of massive nitrogen toxicity? I don’t see any burned or warped leaves at all.
True I'm underpowered for lights. That one is under a big 105 wt 2700k 7000k lumen CFL most of the time. I said N tox because of very dark green, shiny and "the claw".

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Guys I need help. Unfortunately I got massive N tox and I believe that/s the reason my buds didn't grow. Not much bud at all, this is the plant.

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It's an auto on the 11 week. I haven't seen much growth for a while and pistils are amber and falling off the buds. Should I harvest now?

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The first thing you did wrong was you didn’t top your plans if your top them around a five leaf stage it splits off and creates more than one stock which you train through the Scrog grid by and tie down away from the center of your plant allowing light to reach the bottom flowers. Imagine your hand pointing upwards with your fingers spread. This is what your stocks as many as 5,6,7 or more that will each flower, will get the light that’s your top bud sucked up. Also all your energy went into new shoots which is taken away from the buds. Pruning will allow the bottom of the plants to accept light, giving you more buds spread out and much more. I’m going to feed my flowers organic bloom feed one or twice a week and prune off your useless shoots. At the beginning of flowering your plant shoot lose almost half it bulk by pruning back the useless shoots
 

Kassiopeija

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True I'm underpowered for lights. That one is under a big 105 wt 2700k 7000k lumen CFL most of the time. I said N tox because of very dark green, shiny and "the claw".
105w CFL is like 40w LED... you really should muster up...

The Claw is oftentimes mistaken for when fanleaves become limp when there's just not enough photosynthesis it can do or maybe the plant has decided to discard it... An nitrogen-overfed plant claws at the top - as this is the where most of the massflow reaches and this is where you look when you judge over the state of affairs of EC & pH of your medium.
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believing breeder times
You need to take a piece of bud and magnify. Cloudy round diamonds (crystals tell the story. Cloudy and round (immature )clear, round, looks like a clear round piece of glass. Flat ugly has gone oo far. At this stage, your at you should check every couple days because clear diamonds are a chronics best friend. Hope this helps
 

SamRD

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The first thing you did wrong was you didn’t top your plans if your top them around a five leaf stage it splits off and creates more than one stock which you train through the Scrog grid by and tie down away from the center of your plant allowing light to reach the bottom flowers. Imagine your hand pointing upwards with your fingers spread. This is what your stocks as many as 5,6,7 or more that will each flower, will get the light that’s your top bud sucked up. Also all your energy went into new shoots which is taken away from the buds. Pruning will allow the bottom of the plants to accept light, giving you more buds spread out and much more. I’m going to feed my flowers organic bloom feed one or twice a week and prune off your useless shoots. At the beginning of flowering your plant shoot lose almost half it bulk by pruning back the useless shoots
I was told to not top autos because they grow too fast so it's not a good idea o_O But I have 2 more plants and those are topped multiple times and fimmed one plant last time. I also wanted to ask about pruning useless shoots, these pics show growth all the way down the plants, should I cut that growth off so the focus goes on the upper parts of the plant?

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SamRD

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believing breeder times
Got it.
105w CFL is like 40w LED... you really should muster up...

The Claw is oftentimes mistaken for when fanleaves become limp when there's just not enough photosynthesis it can do or maybe the plant has decided to discard it... An nitrogen-overfed plant claws at the top - as this is the where most of the massflow reaches and this is where you look when you judge over the state of affairs of EC & pH of your medium.
:peace:
Thanks for the info.
 

JoeBlow5823

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Yeah breeder times are bull shit. Almost always shorter than they actually need. And your nitrogen issue is not existent. Might be a little high but its not causing problems.
 

Kassiopeija

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should I cut that growth off so the focus goes on the upper parts of the plant?
later in flower you can lollipop the bottom shoots and leaves, but as for now, they serve to capture light and also have food stored in them... later in flower the plant is sucking them out, they yellow, then wrinkle, at that point its completely dysfunctional.
Perhaps you could bend down the upper stems so the plant becomes more wide than high... then you could move that lamp more closer and evenly toward the canopy.

You need to understand that your light is so weak its actually too little to being able to fully support such a plant at one point in growth... and later only were the plant is close to the light it's going to develop proper buds... You may actually want it to keep it a little lower and not becoming a lanky tall plant
 
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