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GlassJoe

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Could Humboldt Seed Company possibly be the US branch of Humboldt Seed Org? I know HSO has been around for a while and is based out of Europe. Their logo, packaging and strain names are identical.
HSO sends seeds in wooden boxes with a horizontal tube showing the seeds through the front. HSC sends their their seeds in a cardboard-backed vertical tube. The strains are definitely not the same, either; https://www.humboldtseeds.net/en/buy-cannabis-seeds/ has no blueberry muffin, no pineapple upside down cake, no magic melon, etc.

They could theoretically be related, but I wouldn't assume it.
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end_of_the_tunnel

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Seedsman is an EU bank that carries their stuff, I almost ordered from them but found a local distributor.
Just had a look. H S Co low or no stock. Must be very popular. HSO has lot of offerings at same vendor. Grew out freebie Three Blue Kings and Blue Fire. No good at describing nuances of smell. Appearance of dry Three Blue Kings was whiter with frost. Almost like its been dipped in milk and dried. Only singles so not exactly representative of what both could offer.

My go to strains from dinafem for regularity of plants from seeds each time are

MOBY dick
Critical +
power kush

these 3 grow pretty similar plants from seed each time with slight variations here and there.

but in all honesty if you’re trying to get a breeder to produce seeds that’s produce the exact same plant every time you might aswell go looking for rocking horse shit.
Got free Moby Dick. Have not tried sprouting yet. About the breeder thing and seed uniformity over time. If big plants are liberally dusted, a large harvest could be stored. Or cuts of mother and father could be maintained, possibly.

It's all marketing. Their Fire OG is sourced from Dark Heart Nursery though, which is in Cali. Personally I don't give a shit where they're from or where they breed. They could still be breeding Cali genetics from a remote location. As far as true breeding strains, they're about as close as you're going to get with fems. If you really want some fire genetics bred in Cali you should check out Twenty20 Mendocino. Great Lakes Genetics carries their gear. They just released some fems. I'm running their SFVOG which is a BX5. Can't get much more stable than that. Their Trainwreck and Bad Girl (GSC) look nice too.
Note to all. See the Twenty20 stock is discounted at this moment. Some of their packs are 16 seeds, would be a good option for buddies splitting/sharing, if the seeds were something both parties wanted.
 

2cent

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The one ending Company is awkward to access for non USA people. Nice looking offerings.
Not atall they have eu site. Its.. . Es at the end

And noway are they linked im diggin deep into company records and org is in africa believe it or not there well hidden under about 30 company names and numbers looks like a scam u cant even locate them very well submit evidence when im done.
Again not questioning any dank they do..

Company us i find registered straight away easy to link to.

Org is running a dodgey game and email company there in a legal battle with them and said there pulling clever tricks
 

GlassJoe

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Not atall they have eu site. Its.. . Es at the end
That's pretty sweet! It's actually even more straightforward to order the seeds in Europe, then, because in the US they only sell to middlemen and licensed operations.

And since we're on the subject of seed stability and uniformity, I posted this video in their seed review thread but it's one of the reasons I decided to get some Magic Melon personally. It's from a northern CA greenhouse operation, there are literally hundreds of plants grown from seed (you can see the cotyledons on the stem) and they're as consistent as I've ever seen.

http://instagr.am/p/B_MP34qhzrY/
 

end_of_the_tunnel

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Not atall they have eu site. Its.. . Es at the end

And noway are they linked im diggin deep into company records and org is in africa believe it or not there well hidden under about 30 company names and numbers looks like a scam u cant even locate them very well submit evidence when im done.
Again not questioning any dank they do..

Company us i find registered straight away easy to link to.

Org is running a dodgey game and email company there in a legal battle with them and said there pulling clever tricks
Wonder who first started trading? I do not know the ins and outs of breeding and propagation in Spain, but had the impression that it was overlooked where only one or two plants were concerned. Wonder how the big seed producers there manage to do it? Co-ops? Expect a lot of obfuscation of entities.

It is particularly interesting when you hear US breeders mentioning spending time over there, being involved in breeding enterprises. Expect only legal way is low thc varieties. Have read of hemp farmers there being prosecuted for having crop with THC levels above some set limit.

Think I have heard of some Spanish organisations using Morocco for breeding projects.

Nice find on the humboldtseedcompany.es. Bookmarked.
 

Hallepenn

Member
Humboldt Seed Company does not affiliate with Humboldt Seed Org. HSC is the original seed company that is actually located in Humboldt, not Spain. HSO uses the name Humboldt as a marketing ploy and is tarnishing the Humboldt brand that has been built up for over twenty years.
 

Gemtree

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Humboldt Seed Company does not affiliate with Humboldt Seed Org. HSC is the original seed company that is actually located in Humboldt, not Spain. HSO uses the name Humboldt as a marketing ploy and is tarnishing the Humboldt brand that has been built up for over twenty years.
I don't remember hearing about hsc 8 or so years ago when hso came out. Hso has been up front about being in spain and working with humboldt strains/breeders. Pretty sure Hso came first unless hsc was local forever.
 

Gorillabilly

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best way is to breed a mother you like and grow from her clones. That will get you as close as I know how, to where you wanna go.
 

GlassJoe

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I don't remember hearing about hsc 8 or so years ago when hso came out. Hso has been up front about being in spain and working with humboldt strains/breeders. Pretty sure Hso came first unless hsc was local forever.
That's absolutely not true, they don't mention being from Spain on their website except for the legal disclaimer and they even have "with love from California" all over the website and packaging. They have all these blurbs about Humboldt county and they name drop California and Humboldt everywhere. It's pretty blatantly intended to give the impression the seeds come from Humboldt county.
 

Gorillabilly

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That's absolutely not true, they don't mention being from Spain on their website except for the legal disclaimer and they even have "with love from California" all over the website and packaging. They have all these blurbs about Humboldt county and they name drop California and Humboldt everywhere. It's pretty blatantly intended to give the impression the seeds come from Humboldt county.
Best strains don't come from Cali anymore, there are some underground guys in appachia that are killing it. I know they are pushing out to legit places like seedsman trying to get some legit foothold. Man the bud is awesome tho.
 

2cent

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I don't remember hearing about hsc 8 or so years ago when hso came out. Hso has been up front about being in spain and working with humboldt strains/breeders. Pretty sure Hso came first unless hsc was local forever.
Look for the hsc founder 1998 registered now Google hso guess what no founderer registered

Now look what hsc talks about.. Pine trees lol
Ow check Hsc and now gfo Google company registration and find hso in a whole lot of trouble mtiple accounts Re registered etc

Hsc hold 1 in Nathaniel Pennington, Humboldt Seed Company Founder
The true ledgend. If I was on my pc I'd post all the proof I did digging and emailing.

Also not hso get snotty and won't reply after somaby emails asking about it.

Hsc rang me from America and email me weekly so friendly. 10k grow outs documented
 

Gemtree

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That's absolutely not true, they don't mention being from Spain on their website except for the legal disclaimer and they even have "with love from California" all over the website and packaging. They have all these blurbs about Humboldt county and they name drop California and Humboldt everywhere. It's pretty blatantly intended to give the impression the seeds come from Humboldt county.
Everyone on Grasscity and here have been talking about it for 8 years or so I guess I should say most growers know. Just been buying seeds online since 02 and never heard of hsc till a couple years ago I don't really care either way.
 

2cent

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Everyone on Grasscity and here have been talking about it for 8 years or so I guess I should say most growers know. Just been buying seeds online since 02 and never heard of hsc till a couple years ago I don't really care either way.
U wud if u understood what they got goin no offence to have f9s and bx6 strains is unbelieveable
 

Hallepenn

Member
I don't remember hearing about hsc 8 or so years ago when hso came out. Hso has been up front about being in spain and working with humboldt strains/breeders. Pretty sure Hso came first unless hsc was local forever.
My dad Nathaniel founded HSC. He has always said that imitation is the best form of flattery, but I personally think they took it a bit too far.. HSC's time and dedication shows, you can't create f9 lines in just a few years. HSO had the investment $ to market before it was even legal for us to do so, even though they definitely knew HSC was already established.
 

Gemtree

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My dad Nathaniel founded HSC. He has always said that imitation is the best form of flattery, but I personally think they took it a bit too far.. HSC's time and dedication shows, you can't create f9 lines in just a few years. HSO had the investment $ to market before it was even legal for us to do so, even though they definitely knew HSC was already established.
That's shitty that they copied him then did they know each other and was it personal? Seems like a shitty move if they knew there was already a similar name.
 

2cent

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My dad Nathaniel founded HSC. He has always said that imitation is the best form of flattery, but I personally think they took it a bit too far.. HSC's time and dedication shows, you can't create f9 lines in just a few years. HSO had the investment $ to market before it was even legal for us to do so, even though they definitely knew HSC was already established.
Hes ur dad? New member pulling our leg? Or has a rarity happened lol.

That would make you frank or gustav? Right?
 

CDubFMG

Member
Humboldt Seed Company does not affiliate with Humboldt Seed Org. HSC is the original seed company that is actually located in Humboldt, not Spain. HSO uses the name Humboldt as a marketing ploy and is tarnishing the Humboldt brand that has been built up for over twenty years.
Thanks Hallepenn. I didn't know this!
 
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