I have lost a lot of cuts in my bubble cloner. 84 F water temp. Any advice?

Rblade

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Hello fellas. I have made a bubble cloner time ago. The problem its that its very hot in my country. I have the cloner in a room at around 31ºC (88F) and around 29ºC (84F) water temp. I have a 2W air pump, change the water each 7 days and I have a lid for the cuts. Without lid, even when 15 days passed, the cuts down her neck. The problem its that even the cuts with roots rot. I have lose around 3/4 of the cuts. Any advice? I am from Europe and I dont know hydroguard
 

GreenGuy_1995

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One thing you can also do between cloning attempts, besides thoroughly cleaning your system, is allow the components to receive some outdoor sunshine.

UV radiation exposure will kill the bad bacteria causing the slime and rot on your clones.

I used to have the same problem in an aero cloner, despite keeping temperatures in check and thorough cleaning in between rounds..

A buddy told me to try exposing it to sunshine and that did the trick for me..

I have since moved to a more simple method of cloning because I got tired of cleaning all the parts and peices..

Good Luck!
 

Keesje

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I think (but I have no proof for it) that the lack of oxygen is the reason.
The high temperature in your res is no providing too much O2.
That, and the high temperature of the water itself, are imo not ideal. Most plants (including most strains of cannabis) like 20-25 C.

If you would build a cloner with sprayers and put them on a timer (so on 1 minute, off 8 minutes) you would give your clones a lower temperature because your pump (that will also heat up the water) is not running 24/7 AND there would be more O2 available (in gaseous state) when the pump is off.

I grow clones in air temperatures of around 30 degrees. With low RV (30) and sometimes with high RV. (60)
I just use tapwater. Nothing else. I don't change it for 2 weeks.
Succes rate of 95%.
And the reason some clones die on me, is because I treat my mother plant really bad, and I sometimes cut off a branch that is not really ready to become a clone. Or that is too 'woody'.
Perhaps your clones are also too small when you cut them.
Or too much light above it. Or too little. There are many factors that can be the reason.

One thing you can also do between cloning attempts, besides thoroughly cleaning your system, is allow the components to receive some outdoor sunshine.
UV radiation exposure will kill the bad bacteria causing the slime and rot on your clones.
How does this work then?
If the UV radiation reaches your roots, you are doing something wrong anyway.
Light reaching roots is causing slime and algae.
And besides that: It is only UV-C that can kill bacteria and viruses.
UV-C in sunshine does not reach the earth. It is blocked by the ozon layer.
 

GreenGuy_1995

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How does this work then?
If the UV radiation reaches your roots, you are doing something wrong anyway.
Light reaching roots is causing slime and algae.
And besides that: It is only UV-C that can kill bacteria and viruses.
UV-C in sunshine does not reach the earth. It is blocked by the ozon layer.
I'm not sure how it works, but it worked for me when I was using an aero-cloner and having problems with slime..

Exposing the unit to UV radiation from the sun happens between usage cycles. There would be no clones in the system being exposed to the light.

When I was using the aero-cloner, I would get the slime without any exposure to light under the collars.. So light reaching the inside of the container was not causing the slime in my case.

I'm not an expert on UV radiation, and do not care to dive deeply into why it worked for me as I have moved to cloning in rockwool cubes with a tray/humidity dome which is much simpler and with less cleanup involved.

I had tried everything to get rid of the slime that always seemed to return - the only thing that actually worked for me was exposing the inside of the unit, and it's components to sunlight.
 

Keesje

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They call that 'coincidence'.

Slime can appear because of many reasons.
It does not always have to be light. Although light will speed it up.
 

bk78

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i always resort back to rapid rooters and a clone dome in summer time. The aero cloner only come out in the fall time.
 
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