2020 MASSACHUSETTS outdoor grow Thread!
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turbobuzz
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I have an online friend that lives in Mass. and is a new grower, so I’ve been helping him. I live in Missouri. His plants look just about like yours. May I ask, will these finish before the weather turns cold? I’ve been telling him I think he better come up with a plan if he wants to make it to maturity.
Dividedsky
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Ya you want to chop before frost but they can do well outside even without greenhouse. We've had a really hot summer with not much rain so its been good for outs if you water properly. Sometimes twice a day
stealthfader508
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most plants will survive through several light frosts... it's the killing frost (below 28 deg for 2+ hrs) to watch out for ... most important part is to keep the roots from freezing... if growing in pots use a blanket, bubble wrap, or something like that wrapped around the pots on real cold nights ... a good outdoor season is measured by the mid-september to late-october weather... that's when the whole season is either determined a success, or total failure .... prior to sept 15th is all foreplay
mattypacks
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Finally going into some cooler temps coming up, everything looking alright.
Really excited to see all this flowering action going on. 7/11 plants so far.
Not the best pic but I was seeing mostly clear, some milky, and a few ambers.
I wasnt able to find any hermies on any of the plants so I was thinking about it more and came up with a few scenarios. About 3-4 weeks ago was the last time I saw my red diesel male that I want to save pollen from (at a relatives a dozen miles away), I set up a cage around it. I could have overlooked it and pollinated the next time I checked up on the plants, which would fit the timeline pretty well. The only issue I have with this is that ALL the seeds I found are on the top 15% of the plants, wouldn't that growth not exist a month ago?
Its like a spot pollination, the two plants with more than 1-2 seeds are found in the top 15% of the plant and pretty much only being found on the sides of the plants facing a ton of flowering mint plants, there's 1000's of pollinators doing their thing on em. Bugs could have brought pollen from somewhere else and spread it around. I have seen bees and hornets hanging on the plants.
The neighbor theory sounds the most viable but if that was the case I'd imagine every single plant would be showing the same thing throughout the entire plant. I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens now that the buds are forming. Its really grinding me down lol so im gonna stop thinking about it and whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen.
Really excited to see all this flowering action going on. 7/11 plants so far.
Last year had a sativa that was looking to be a mid November finish, ended up pulling the plant due to rot/PM, didn't make it to the really cold temps but other than that she did okay. I think we're expecting above avg temps for the fall so I don't think it should be much of an issue unless its a really long finishing strain. Lots of other variables go into the late finishers.
I went through and checked as thoroughly as I could for hermies and more seeds on all the plants. I picked off another few from the OG and maybe 8 off the 24k. 1-3 premature seeds probably halfway done forming on a few others. Heres a trich shot on one of the 24k bracts/calyx whatever you want to call it
Not the best pic but I was seeing mostly clear, some milky, and a few ambers.I wasnt able to find any hermies on any of the plants so I was thinking about it more and came up with a few scenarios. About 3-4 weeks ago was the last time I saw my red diesel male that I want to save pollen from (at a relatives a dozen miles away), I set up a cage around it. I could have overlooked it and pollinated the next time I checked up on the plants, which would fit the timeline pretty well. The only issue I have with this is that ALL the seeds I found are on the top 15% of the plants, wouldn't that growth not exist a month ago?
Its like a spot pollination, the two plants with more than 1-2 seeds are found in the top 15% of the plant and pretty much only being found on the sides of the plants facing a ton of flowering mint plants, there's 1000's of pollinators doing their thing on em. Bugs could have brought pollen from somewhere else and spread it around. I have seen bees and hornets hanging on the plants.
The neighbor theory sounds the most viable but if that was the case I'd imagine every single plant would be showing the same thing throughout the entire plant. I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens now that the buds are forming. Its really grinding me down lol so im gonna stop thinking about it and whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen.
dunphy
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Thats the best way to look at it.
That is interesting, the top 15%, TBH I'd sorta be happy with that, because it doesnt sound like herm, just a few nice seeds to test out.
Other than that, your plants are looking great They've come a long way quickly, I remember reading your post a few months ago,
I think you'll be just fine this year, Def keep a vigilant eye as best you can though.. (Save those seeds too!)
Was rereading that old post, forgot to check but do you still have your white widow going? Hows that one coming along if so? One of two of my WW were male, but both were just small exp. plants.
PioneerValleyOG
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Zeez
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Unbelievable how fast they go from no indication to major balls.
I like seeds because there are no clones with bugs and no mothers to maintain year round, but it's allot of work getting them to the point where they get chopped.
PioneerValleyOG
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I agree, I just think seeds work out better, I can't afford $20 clones or whatever, but know people that will pay $45 for a flipping seed! I grew some Jack Herer last year that was off the chain! This year's gonna be good, it's hot and dry, but I think I got my last male out today, I have one plant that's 70" and seems to be growing 6 inches a day, so I measured it today, I think.its a Big Bud seed.
turbobuzz
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Thanks for the info. I think he’s going to buy one of those canopies to put them under and some black tarps to hang to hurry the flowering along by simulating 12/12 lighting.
stealthfader508
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the canopy will certainly help him keep the rain off them, but tell him to just use a clear covering .. the black plastic is totally unnecessary ... in fact, it'll probably cause him more problems with heat and moisture issues... it could also cause a herm problem if he has light creeping through during it's "dark" cycle .... In MA most plants have already started flowering naturally based off the shortening day anyway ...the cold weather up here won't be his issue, it's the rain and moisture that'll get him
edit: ... and bugs.. those little fkrs.. watch out for them too ... but cold, nah, it actually makes the plants pretty
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turbobuzz
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Brilliant, thank you. Passed it on.
Zeez
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Yup, I made a few crosses last year that I'm trying out the seeds on now. They're all about 5 feet and started early with aggressive topping.
mattypacks
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Hey if anything would be cool to do a breeding experiment with pre harvested pollen on vegging plants next time to intentionally try to get the same result as what happened here accidentally. Wouldnt have to deal with accidental pollination doing it at wk3-5 or dealing with 100s of seeds when you only need a few. And can get it out of the way before flowers really start to show up. Ill pop those seeds eventually. The ones farthest along do have some green right on the crease so not sure if they're 100% mature so we'll have to see.Thats the best way to look at it.
That is interesting, the top 15%, TBH I'd sorta be happy with that, because it doesnt sound like herm, just a few nice seeds to test out.
Other than that, your plants are looking great They've come a long way quickly, I remember reading your post a few months ago,
I think you'll be just fine this year, Def keep a vigilant eye as best you can though.. (Save those seeds too!)
Was rereading that old post, forgot to check but do you still have your white widow going? Hows that one coming along if so? One of two of my WW were male, but both were just small exp. plants.
Thanks brotha. Looking at that pic from last year brings back a lot of beginner memories!
The white widow honestly is probably the best performer in the garden. Had wicked explosive growth from the start, had to bury the 30gal in ground so it didnt "seem" so tall. Very low maintenance, topped once, one of the mains snapped probably from a bird, another took over just fine. Supercropped the other main once and did tie downs where I could and thats it. Stem rub smells dank and she looks healthy.
Heres a pic of her from last week. 6ft tall, probably that wide, and still growing!
dunphy
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Meant to grab a pic from this year, I remember reading a post and seeing that fence and them lined up like that on the hill... Unless that was someone else, I just went to your profile rq and grabbed one that looked like may/june 2020, looks like i grabbed last years... either way, I was saying theyve come a long way in a few months!But I def agree on the seeds, would be cool to compare.
My last remaining WW is just in a extra pot I had lying around, which I also buried halfway into the ground, Its probably no more than 25 gal at most and thats pushing it, Its not a typical black # pot but a weird decorative one. But she has been surprising me more and more, not very wide maybe 3/4feet at most and kind of lanky, but she shot up without me noticing and is a good 6 inches above my head now.
Good stuff, keep it up bro
Dannydavito
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My two girls are looking good for my first outdoor grow I think. Other than a nitrogen deficiency cause I've been too busy at work and too lazy to fertilize them. One of them is a monster cropped clone from an indoor grow!
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mattypacks
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Yeah I think that one is from the intro of the post showing last year, was the only one I didnt thumbnail lol
But I def agree on the seeds, would be cool to compare.
My last remaining WW is just in a extra pot I had lying around, which I also buried halfway into the ground, Its probably no more than 25 gal at most and thats pushing it, Its not a typical black # pot but a weird decorative one. But she has been surprising me more and more, not very wide maybe 3/4feet at most and kind of lanky, but she shot up without me noticing and is a good 6 inches above my head now.
Good stuff, keep it up bro
Mine got tall like that too, was looking at it today and it must have been around 6'5 and I did my best to keep the height down with training during veg. I got the seeds from dutch passion, lots of controversy around if its even genuine WW but I think it'll be fire regardless. Ill be following to see how yours turn out
Moths out in full force where I am, anyone else seeing these types of egg deposits on their leaves? Im not 100% sure if its from moths or not but I've been seeing handfuls of them on each plant, really no other pests present. Not taking any chances this year.
Zeez
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The daylight hours are short enough now that flowering has begun. What you're talking about is light dep and the time to do that is when daylight is long enough to keep your plants in veg. To do this now outdoors serves no purpose.
OutdoorGrowin
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Things are starting to pick up nicely around here, we had a real cool night on the cape 2 nights ago and 8 of my plants started flowering overnight so I'm wondering if maybe temp can have a factor in flowering also? I'm still waiting for 3 of the plants to start flowering and other than that like I said 8 just started and surprisingly my ghost train haze is 3 weeks ahead of everything else.
