Do I need to defoliate more?

[Apalchen]

Here are some defoliation pics of my last run. These plants are all from seed, so was a pain in the ass run, but I'm happy with the results. Around 2.3 per light with no C02 and 10+ strains all from seed in 5 gallon pots.

Before:


Halfway done


Few days after

 

[p0opstlnksal0t]

Even when I leave a little too mich below my canopy in the shade the buds turn out great.

What do you do below the canopy? Defoliate?

 

[Tetrahedral]

Dude the reason you don’t defoliate is because your flowering plant are 8” fucking tall and you have nothing to defoliate. I take it this is your first grow and by the bullshit you type you read grow weed easy website daily.

Settle down shooter and stop trying to tell people how to grow when you barley do yourself.

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Is there an error or problem with my plants? I thought they were green pretty perfect and hadn't lost a leaf but I do trim the first two node branches because I only want four tops.

This is a T5 grow, I've grown a long time, if they weren't so short I'd have to defoliate but I've the skill not to produce that type of plant.

You seem to be more critical than know real knowledge and the point most are making is that if you don't grow bigger plants than your lights you don't have to waste time defoliating.

 

[DaFreak]

What do you do below the canopy? Defoliate?

I lollitop. I’m all for cutting things off to let your root zone develop and give yourself that time. I think I said that above, anything before the flip is fair game but after the flip I don’t believe in wasting time on growing more leafs.

 

[Tetrahedral]

What? No. SCROG>SOG and topping maybe wins if you add nine months of veg. SCROG is for mass production. SOG is for faster crops, not bigger yields.You may want to look at dispensaries. SOG is an archaic hydroponic method and does not bode as well for soil growers. So your statement is crazy wrong because it isn't even necessarily true if you were saying it to the right crowd(hydro growers ONLY).

More smaller plants makes shorter veg times and more harvests a year, that's the why as to the bigger yeild.

If dispensaries have to grow big plants and defoliate it dosent make it quicker or better yeilding to sog and you should stop coming here trying to change that.

Quite a lot are trying to explain to you but your and dispensaries are a recent invention, cannabis was all worked out before these legal beagle's.

 

[DaFreak]

You need the right plant to do sog right. Single main cola without a lot of side branching. Have the right plant and it would be pretty hard to beat it. But a lot of people can’t produce 100 clones

 

[Boatguy]

More smaller plants makes shorter veg times and more harvests a year, that's the why as to the bigger yeild.

If dispensaries have to grow big plants and defoliate it dosent make it quicker or better yeilding to sog and you should stop coming here trying to change that.

Quite a lot are trying to explain to you but your and dispensaries are a recent invention, cannabis was all worked out before these legal beagle's.

Your reading comprehension really sucks.

Really,

It does.

 

[Tetrahedral]

Your reading comprehension really sucks.

Really,

It does.

It's not my comprehension that sucks and it's not just me with this opinion. Thread would be far shorter if you and wazzup took your aggression elsewhere, your reading comprehension sucks and a lot of what I see is a generation that has to read because it can't do. They prop up the whole market from boveda to pH Chems for soil, even had to put a scientific paper just to explain that HP's dosent heat leaves up any more than led and any difference isn't noticeable.

Your creating the gimmicks, I just grow the way it always has been, like your going to tell me it's stronger now when we still grow the old strains and clearly just as strong. It is a shame to see your stuck and can't work it out preferring to try preach on a minor forum that should really know its head from tail.

Wow us all I can say, the rest has already been printed in enough posts.

 

[Boatguy]

It's not my comprehension that sucks and it's not just me with this opinion. Thread would be far shorter if you and wazzup took your aggression elsewhere, your reading comprehension sucks and a lot of what I see is a generation that has to read because it can't do. They prop up the whole market from boveda to pH Chems for soil, even had to put a scientific paper just to explain that HP's dosent heat leaves up any more than led and any difference isn't noticeable.

Your creating the gimmicks, I just grow the way it always has been, like your going to tell me it's stronger now when we still grow the old strains and clearly just as strong. It is a shame to see your stuck and can't work it out preferring to try preach on a minor forum that should really know its head from tail.

Wow us all I can say, the rest has already been printed in enough posts.

I am probably older than you. Not that that means anything. All your quotes of others posts, have been total misinterpretations of what they were actually saying. If you dont see that, you are just a full on troll and not as stupid as you are playing to be.

 

[Tetrahedral]

Is it the reason there are a lot of flush threads and failed cures because you just don't get an answer and some recent growers and dispensaries are talking so much bad monkey you wouldn't know the right answer if you found it.

Someone could fail to grow well for years working it all out, is that the aggression bk and wazz are showing in pure frustration because they certainly aren't a fountain of knowledge and pop up everywhere with this alternative concept swearing it's the best only to get run out of a lot of threads or have to agree they are borderline wankers.

A lots made sense here, you think online forums might have cracked it but it's so bad it's more like a throwback to some noob who might eventually get it but still struggling hard.

 

[Tetrahedral]

I am probably older than you. Not that that means anything. All your quotes of others posts, have been total misinterpretations of what they were actually saying. If you dont see that, you are just a full on troll and not as stupid as you are playing to be.

The op didn't want to defoliate and stripping most leaves is just asking to stunt your growth and use all that energy to grow a lot more leaf than an undefoliated one. Stripping in flower is just dumb.

Real simple easy, not sure what you don't get but your great at being a troll, wasn't hard to work out, come back when you have.

 

[Boatguy]

Is it the reason there are a lot of flush threads and failed cures because you just don't get an answer and some recent growers and dispensaries are talking so much bad monkey you wouldn't know the right answer if you found it.

Someone could fail to grow well for years working it all out, is that the aggression bk and wazz are showing in pure frustration because they certainly aren't a fountain of knowledge and pop up everywhere with this alternative concept swearing it's the best only to get run out of a lot of threads or have to agree they are borderline wankers.

A lots made sense here, you think online forums might have cracked it but it's so bad it's more like a throwback to some noob who might eventually get it but still struggling hard.

Again... imbecile... Read my posts anywhere in this forum and show my interest in defol, or flushing. You wont find any. That is why i am calling you a troll and calling out your poor reading comprehension.
Have a lovely day

 

[.Smoke]

The op didn't want to defoliate and stripping most leaves is just asking to stunt your growth and use all that energy to grow a lot more leaf than an undefoliated one. Stripping in flower is just dumb.

Real simple easy, not sure what you don't get but your great at being a troll, wasn't hard to work out, come back when you have.

Okay...schwazzing is just

But there is no chance you're going to convince me that going from this last night...
Before (day 19 of flower even )



After



Today

Shows any signs of "damaging" the plant or "slowing production" when 20+ more bud sites are now getting direct light. From the looks of it, she seems to have not minded and recovered pretty darn quickly too...

Most people that run into issues or have a problem with defoliation are probably the same ones who didn't want to take the time or put in the effort to "correctly" defoliate.

So, instead they went in with hedge clippers, ended up looking like they're trying to grow bamboo instead of cannabis, had a bad result and now claim, "You're dumb if you do it!" only because they failed...or they just grow cute little plants in a SOG that don't need defoliated in the first place...

 

[fatasstrex]

Okay...schwazzing is just

But there is no chance you're going to convince me that going from this last night...
Before (day 19 of flower even )
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After
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Today
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Shows any signs of "damaging" the plant or "slowing production" when 20+ more bud sites are now getting direct light. From the looks of it, she seems to have not minded and recovered pretty darn quickly too...

Most people that run into issues or have a problem with defoliation are probably the same ones who didn't want to take the time or put in the effort to "correctly" defoliate.

So, instead they went in with hedge clippers, ended up looking like they're trying to grow bamboo instead of cannabis, had a bad result and now claim, "You're dumb if you do it!" only because they failed...or they just grow cute little plants in a SOG that don't need defoliated in the first place...

wow beautiful plant, man. How long did you veg? Did you top or LST to get that even canopy?

 

[My Name is Mike]

So much passion in this thread... love it.

Awesome grow @.Smoke

The op didn't want to defoliate and stripping most leaves is just asking to stunt your growth and use all that energy to grow a lot more leaf than an undefoliated one. Stripping in flower is just dumb.

Real simple easy, not sure what you don't get but your great at being a troll, wasn't hard to work out, come back when you have.

Prove it. Show me a correlation between defoliation and a stunted grow? If you don't have it, then it's just your opinion and you should specify that beforehand. Because saying "is just asking to stunt your growth" is telling me, your opinion is that you're asking for it to stunt but you don't actually know if it will. Ok cool.

The schwazzing technique is very interesting. I plan on doing it next grow. Awesome journal to check out for anyone else intrigued. For me, I need to train a lot due to space restrictions and this grow I've had a lot of leaf growth which in essence is a good problem to have for duh reasons but it has to be controlled. In my situation.

Bigdaddy’s garden, hoping for 8-10lbs Tons of pictures

crazy how fast they fill back out

www.rollitup.org

 

[bk78]

The op didn't want to defoliate and stripping most leaves is just asking to stunt your growth and use all that energy to grow a lot more leaf than an undefoliated one. Stripping in flower is just dumb.

Real simple easy, not sure what you don't get but your great at being a troll, wasn't hard to work out, come back when you have.

Come back when you get out of your 2x2 tent and grow more then 1/4 ounce plants you fucking noob.

 

[bk78]

So much passion in this thread... love it.

Awesome grow @.Smoke



Prove it. Show me a correlation between defoliation and a stunted grow? If you don't have it, then it's just your opinion and you should specify that beforehand. Because saying "is just asking to stunt your growth" is telling me, your opinion is that you're asking for it to stunt but you don't actually know if it will. Ok cool.

The schwazzing technique is very interesting. I plan on doing it next grow. Awesome journal to check out for anyone else intrigued. For me, I need to train a lot due to space restrictions and this grow I've had a lot of leaf growth which in essence is a good problem to have for duh reasons but it has to be controlled. In my situation.

Bigdaddy’s garden, hoping for 8-10lbs Tons of pictures

crazy how fast they fill back out

www.rollitup.org

The noobs on his first grow, and reads too many books that were printed 20 years ago.

 

[My Name is Mike]

The noobs on his first grow, and reads too many books that were printed 20 years ago.

Wait, what's a book? They still make those

 

[.Smoke]

wow beautiful plant, man. How long did you veg? Did you top or LST to get that even canopy?

Thank you.
5 week veg from seed. Topped and a little LST.
Journal here if interested...

.Smoke's Hempy Bucket Adventures

My grow has expanded in size and scope, so I figured I'd make a permanent journal for here on out. Short details, 4'x8' flower tent with 2- 1000W SE HPS and extra supplemental UVB. 4'x4'x veg tent with 1- 1000W SE MH. I am, and will be, running 12 plants total in a perpetual grow. All...

www.rollitup.org

 

[DaFreak]

Cutting off leafs slows growth, can’t even believe that people would want to debate that. Of course the plant is going to recover but you’re removing readily available food from the plant.