MICHI-CAN
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10 gallons for early starts. And 5 gallons for April starts.I like to start mine the first of feb (even my biggest were in feb. How many gallons do you use to backfill?
10 gallons for early starts. And 5 gallons for April starts.I like to start mine the first of feb (even my biggest were in feb. How many gallons do you use to backfill?
But you are inground so the roots will grow way past your 5 or 10 gallons of soil.You don't need crazy volume when you figure out that you are trying to grow roots. Not plants. When you figure out how to do that, the restrictions and boundaries expand quite a bit. Just my philosophy.
So you dont think that your plants would be considerably smaller if it was just in a 5 gallon pot sitting on top of the ground vs in a 5 gallon back filled hole in the ground?First legal outdoor here. Didn't have a plan and got stuck with a few more plants than I wanted. I'll have a clean planned grow next year..
Wet dry cycle with good organic soil will give huge yields in small pots. In ground I'm more concerned with organic concentrations and their availability. My root balls are really tight at harvest. Don't search for requirements.
Can you supplement lighting outdoors at all? So that you can plant earlier and keep them in veg with the lighting? Most cant...I know I cant where I live.I would like to preface this by saying I have never grown cannabis but have been reading on this sight for three years. This will be my first grow. I am aware growing outdoors your plants are very vulnrable to the elements and pests. I am also very aware as a first timer I should not expect much and should not even be focused on yield. Despite this I want to try anyways. I know its impossible to estimate yield as a variety of factors are involved such as humidity, heat, veg time, genetics, strains, training, sunlight, watering schedules etc. With that out of the way...
Would anyone have some pointers to getting me close to or exactly a pound per plant for my first grow?
I have read people getting pound plants in as little as 15 gallon smart pots. I would love to go much bigger (50 gallons) but that is too much $$$ for me at the moment. I will be growing my plants in 20 gallon smart pots. My base mix will be as follows: 1/3 spagnum peat, ewc, and lava rock. I was also told to use mulch or straw to retain water. I will be using glacial rock dust for minerals, as well as spraying roots with myco. I have heard good things about malted barley for increased terpene production. I will be mixing an all purpose fertilizer in with my soil (5-5-5) I was told for simplicities sake as a beginner this soil mix would only require water and no teas/topdressing later on. I should also mention I am not able to veg indoors as I do not have the room in my house to do so. I will have to start from seed outdoors.
I live in the southern US. humidity can be high here and temperatures can average 80-95 degrees Fahrenheit in the summer.
If anyone thinks 20 gallon smart pots with that soil mix could yield close to a pound or more a plant I would greatly appreciate your feedback and any other tips.
10-15% is all.So you dont think that your plants would be considerably smaller if it was just in a 5 gallon pot sitting on top of the ground vs in a 5 gallon back filled hole in the ground?
I started that big one in the cage April 12th it’s a c99 x blueberry “fast version” that took the longest to flower out of everything my gorilla skittles included lol smaller plant in cage short n bushy is my best pheno of the 8ball kush by Barney’s farm, the small plant in 10gal pot in mid flower is my smallest lemonade OG x freezeland she smells sooooo sweet cuz I’m used to running straight freezeland nothing like this, this has lemon OG kush and haze crossed into it .got sum big 7-8 footers guerilla style in 60+gal holes in the ground started em late April there monsters like this c99 but taller,lil less bushyBoatguy is right. I have already had one fool jump my fence this year. Full coverage cctv with motion alarms alerted me to them. Not sure if it was the dog or racking 3" mag rock salt shell. But I don't think he will be back. Don't advertise specific location details. You may end up having to defend your property. I have some less than lethal insanely cruel surprises after all the years of BS. Had to go with a greenhouse after all the low life scum I've dealt with over the years.
To the OP. I get a pound by starting my outdoor plants in September indoors. Veg all winter with LST and topping. 5 gallon holes in organic soil will do it. /but my big girls are in 100 just for some extra food. I've pulled over a pound in a gal pot indoors. Same technique. But twice daily watering and View attachment 4662037View attachment 4662038crazy PPMs.
U rly think that bag seed “awesome pheno from the lab” I’m guessing , that I caught... has a chance of producing a pound? The more I look at it it makes me think 8-10oz + ,for sure! Based on the amount of bud sites.. if that’s true I guess that c99 x blueberry should yield me 2+, this pic of her in the 30 herewas probly from end of July ,around the 25th my guess.. See how much she stretched I thought she was gonna b waaaay smaller when all said n done until she went into transition ahaha ,pics from her old pot (so happy with her she thrived in the pre ammended 2gal for 6wks then into this 125+gal hole an loved life ever since! No sign of unhappyness whatsoever only 5-6 yellow leaves way inside I had to pick off today that died from no sun other than that she never stops praying, super upset she taking this long to flower tho I’m gonna hafto build a hoop house overtop of her thank god she’s short (max out at 6ft probly, maybe lil less)Nice i used those totes for yrs growing in swamps very easy LB per.
Sow seed. Observe. Buy and read books, it's there.I would like to preface this by saying I have never grown cannabis but have been reading on this sight for three years. This will be my first grow. I am aware growing outdoors your plants are very vulnrable to the elements and pests. I am also very aware as a first timer I should not expect much and should not even be focused on yield. Despite this I want to try anyways. I know its impossible to estimate yield as a variety of factors are involved such as humidity, heat, veg time, genetics, strains, training, sunlight, watering schedules etc. With that out of the way...
Would anyone have some pointers to getting me close to or exactly a pound per plant for my first grow?
I have read people getting pound plants in as little as 15 gallon smart pots. I would love to go much bigger (50 gallons) but that is too much $$$ for me at the moment. I will be growing my plants in 20 gallon smart pots. My base mix will be as follows: 1/3 spagnum peat, ewc, and lava rock. I was also told to use mulch or straw to retain water. I will be using glacial rock dust for minerals, as well as spraying roots with myco. I have heard good things about malted barley for increased terpene production. I will be mixing an all purpose fertilizer in with my soil (5-5-5) I was told for simplicities sake as a beginner this soil mix would only require water and no teas/topdressing later on. I should also mention I am not able to veg indoors as I do not have the room in my house to do so. I will have to start from seed outdoors.
I live in the southern US. humidity can be high here and temperatures can average 80-95 degrees Fahrenheit in the summer.
If anyone thinks 20 gallon smart pots with that soil mix could yield close to a pound or more a plant I would greatly appreciate your feedback and any other tips.
This pic gets me PUMPED, you got 24oz dry off that?? Sweet, what was it’s final height? An what strain was that?? I’m gonna take some pictures later this morning at my guerilla site(s) .. Everything blew up BIG TIME I wanna show u sum stuff here once my iPad is charged enuff to bring into the woods lol .. the difference in my crop this year compared to prior years is , before, I used to sell hydro by the pounds/ounces so I barely had time to throw 3.8ft bags of moss on my wheeler, wheel it back to an open bog, cut the bags in half and put open side down, then cut the top off ,rough the top half up a bit and plant a small (6-10 inch) clone of freezeland/R2 , I usually did 25-40 plants like that but I fed them bottle nutrients most years and they just weren’t that “cared for” , they always had lots of yellow leaves and I’d be lucky to get a pound dry per every 3 of them... this year is a whole new ball game I have monster holes backfilled good soil and organics @3tbsp per gal of soil , just for their veg beds, An gave em two top dressings since planting them in their rich ass beds, the first of june...lots of worm casting top dresssings, they’ve had voodoo juice,calmag,silica, went thru a quart n a half of botanicare pure blend tea 0.5-0.5-1 so far as well, a full dose of 25ml per 5gal only brings my 90ppm tap water up to 160 or so it’s fuckin nice u won’t ever overdose nothing with that stuff but they stay nice n happy 24/7... everythnig is maxxin out HARD, I think... like that c99 x blueberry I sprouted April 12th! I got a dozen or so more like that, that never seen a yellow leaf yet and never stopped praying... maybe I’m gonna need a spin pro or sumthing to get it all trimmed? I think I have a lot more weight than I thought I did, based off your “1.5 pounder” lolThis one gave me 1.5 pounds. 15 gallon fabric pot. Take care of your girls and they take care of you. Feed them the proper nutrition at the right time. Most of all play them lots of music all summer long View attachment 4662815
Out of curiosity... you dont like the roots going into the native soil?Do 150 gal smart pots on pallets and last and top alot you'll be good get three plus
This pic gets me PUMPED, you got 24oz dry off that?? Sweet, what was it’s final height? An what strain was that?? I’m gonna take some pictures later this morning at my guerilla site(s) .. Everything blew up BIG TIME I wanna show u sum stuff here once my iPad is charged enuff to bring into the woods lol .. the difference in my crop this year compared to prior years is , before, I used to sell hydro by the pounds/ounces so I barely had time to throw 3.8ft bags of moss on my wheeler, wheel it back to an open bog, cut the bags in half and put open side down, then cut the top off ,rough the top half up a bit and plant a small (6-10 inch) clone of freezeland/R2 , I usually did 25-40 plants like that but I fed them bottle nutrients most years and they just weren’t that “cared for” , they always had lots of yellow leaves and I’d be lucky to get a pound dry per every 3 of them... this year is a whole new ball game I have monster holes backfilled good soil and organics @3tbsp per gal of soil , just for their veg beds, An gave em two top dressings since planting them in their rich ass beds, the first of june...lots of worm casting top dresssings, they’ve had voodoo juice,calmag,silica, went thru a quart n a half of botanicare pure blend tea 0.5-0.5-1 so far as well, a full dose of 25ml per 5gal only brings my 90ppm tap water up to 160 or so it’s fuckin nice u won’t ever overdose nothing with that stuff but they stay nice n happy 24/7... everythnig is maxxin out HARD, I think... like that c99 x blueberry I sprouted April 12th! I got a dozen or so more like that, that never seen a yellow leaf yet and never stopped praying... maybe I’m gonna need a spin pro or sumthing to get it all trimmed? I think I have a lot more weight than I thought I did, based off your “1.5 pounder” lol