LF Recommendation: 2x XLG-240-H, 2x HLG-240H-48, or 1x HLG-320H-48?

Umbra40

Member
Good Morning,

For a bit of background I'm looking to setup a flowering section over a veg section. The footprint is 2x4' (.61x1.21m). The veg section is about 3' tall (.91m) and the flowering section would sit atop that in a 5' (1.52m) tall tent. Because of the height restrictions I'm going to be doing LST training and shorter grows to keep the plants shorter. I've also ordered twelve 48V 70W 560mm (1.83') quantum strips from Kingbrite (link) so I can keep the light source closer to the plants and still have uniform coverage. Six are 3000k and six are 4000k . These strips are in transit and I've got everything else needed, but I still haven't picked out drivers. I'd have to run them dimmed because that's a lot of wattage for that space, especially if ran close to the plants.

I thought some HLG series drivers seemed like the obvious choice, but then I learned about the XLG line which seems to be more versatile and cheaper.

ModelWattage Cost (USD) Cost Per Watt
HLG-600H-48AB
600​
$ 183.00 $ 0.31
HLG-480H-48AB
480​
$ 135.00 $ 0.28
HLG-320H-48AB
320​
$ 85.50 $ 0.27
HLG-240H-48AB
240​
$ 63.70 $ 0.27
HLG-185H-48AB
185​
$ 51.50 $ 0.28
HLG-150H-48AB
150​
$ 48.10 $ 0.32
HLG-120H-48AB
120​
$ 47.50 $ 0.40
HLG-100H-48AB
100​
$ 46.00 $ 0.46
HLG-80H-48AB
80​
$ 38.00 $ 0.48
HLG-60H-48AB
60​
$ 32.50 $ 0.54
HLG-40H-48AB
40​
$ 31.40 $ 0.79
XLG-240-H-AB
240​
$ 41.80 $ 0.17
XLG-200-H-AB
200​
$ 39.90 $ 0.20
XLG-150-H-AB
150​
$ 33.30 $ 0.22
XLG-100-H-AB
100​
$ 30.40 $ 0.30
XLG-75-H-AB
75​
$ 27.60 $ 0.37
XLG-50-AB
50​
$ 22.80 $ 0.46
XLG-25-AB
25​
$ 21.90 $ 0.88

I spent some time familiarizing myself with the constant current, constant voltage, and cc/cv features of the HLG series. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but it appears The XLG line works differently in that that they have a wide range of output voltage it can supply constant current in (27V-56V for the "H" models). There's one potentiometer on the underside and i've been told it adjusts "wattage", so both the current and voltage. The unit somehow senses the voltage needed. There's a lot of magic going on here and I can't find nearly as much stuff on it as the HLG series. Saving money is nice and having a more versatile driver is nice, but the HLG line has a longer warranty and beefier enclosure. I get the sense that you get what you pay for. I know it's newer tech, but there's gotta be a catch.

My current plan is to run 2x 240W drivers in the flowering space substantially dimmed. Three strips per driver. This looks to be the sweet spot for Cost per Watt and two drivers allow redundancy in case one needs to be serviced. If theres one driver and it craps out it could screw up my lighting schedules. If I had two I could just wire them all to one of them and run it full power and have 30W per square foot. If I go with the HLG line 2x 185H drivers would be a better fit, but if I had to fall back on one the light would be lacking.

I also have the veg tier to consider. Same premise, six strips, two drives. I don't know what wattage per square foot is ideal here, but I'm guessing 30W would be a good number. I might just do two more 240W drivers dimmed even lower and if a flowering one needed to be serviced I could take one from the veg section, run the remaining one veg driver at full power and get more acceptable wattage per square foot.

I've been overthinking this for probably weeks at this point. The lights will be here soon and I'll still haven't picked out the drivers at this rate. I'm hoping someone has used both drivers and has some anecdotal experience with them. Open to all recommendations and criticism.

 

Rocket Soul

Well-Known Member
If this is your first go id just do one 8 feet space, 5 feet flower and your going to run out of space real quick; with at least a foot disappearing to pots and light, another foot inorder to lolipop your plants a bit (helps with airflow and humidity and removes sucker branches).
Drivers: you can really go either way here. I wouldnt double up.so much though. If you wanna make sure you have an extra driver if something goes wrong, sure buy another extra driver but not 2. 30w/foot vegg is way too much, youll end up with unhappy and burnt plants.
 

Umbra40

Member
If this is your first go id just do one 8 feet space, 5 feet flower and your going to run out of space real quick; with at least a foot disappearing to pots and light, another foot inorder to lolipop your plants a bit (helps with airflow and humidity and removes sucker branches).
Drivers: you can really go either way here. I wouldnt double up.so much though. If you wanna make sure you have an extra driver if something goes wrong, sure buy another extra driver but not 2. 30w/foot vegg is way too much, youll end up with unhappy and burnt plants.
I've done a couple of moderately successful grows under MH/HPS in this size space (maybe a few inches taller depending on how the shelf was setup) using bagseed. This time I've selected strains suited to indoor growing to help out. I think it's doable. If shit absolutely hits the fan I could put them in a taller tent and not stack it towards the end of the grow, but I'm trying to avoid doubling the footprint.

Maybe it is overkill. Maybe I should just go for two 185Ws which is 46.25W per square foot and dim it down a bit and something smaller for veg and keep another 185W on hand as a backup. I could use it dimmed substantially if one in the veg area gave out. Do you have a recommendation for wattage per square foot in veg? The premade quantum boards the got me into this like the SF-1000 market it as suitable for 3x3 veg or 2x2 flower. so 4/9ths the wattage per square foot. So I'm guessing closer to 20W per square foot.
 

Rocket Soul

Well-Known Member
I've done a couple of moderately successful grows under MH/HPS in this size space (maybe a few inches taller depending on how the shelf was setup) using bagseed. This time I've selected strains suited to indoor growing to help out. I think it's doable. If shit absolutely hits the fan I could put them in a taller tent and not stack it towards the end of the grow, but I'm trying to avoid doubling the footprint.

Maybe it is overkill. Maybe I should just go for two 185Ws which is 46.25W per square foot and dim it down a bit and something smaller for veg and keep another 185W on hand as a backup. I could use it dimmed substantially if one in the veg area gave out. Do you have a recommendation for wattage per square foot in veg? The premade quantum boards the got me into this like the SF-1000 market it as suitable for 3x3 veg or 2x2 flower. so 4/9ths the wattage per square foot. So I'm guessing closer to 20W per square foot.
When you keep your driver working at half output its efficiency goes down. i really doubt youll need more than a 240 driver in flower, and max 15 w per foot in veg. Id suggest one driver for flower and one for vegg, and keeping one spare if you like. doubling up on both flower and veg is a waste imho
 

Umbra40

Member
When you keep your driver working at half output its efficiency goes down. i really doubt youll need more than a 240 driver in flower, and max 15 w per foot in veg. Id suggest one driver for flower and one for vegg, and keeping one spare if you like. doubling up on both flower and veg is a waste imho
I think you've talked some sense into me. I'm gonna skip the doubling up and probably just chuck a CFL in the veg tent as a backup to maintain lights on. I've opted for the HLG-320H-48AB for the flowering section and HLG-185H-48AB for the veg section. I'm also gonna get an XLG-240-H-AB because they're so cheap and I'm still very curious about them. That can be my backup in case either fails.

I was thinking about multiple big drivers for redundancy and futureproofing, but if I expand the footprint down the road I can just buy additional drivers. One crucial thing I neglected is since I went with your suggestion and got six boards for each tier so that I could run them close I'd probably need to run fewer watts anyway just to keep them from burning.

I can't believe I got so hung up on this, but I sure am glad to finally be placing an order. With my luck the boards will show up tomorrow.

Thanks
 
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