Leaves turning black and folding up help please

myke

myke

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Byow88 said:
It’s in a 7 gallon pot with good drainage and will be almost dry tomorrow so ‍♂ Everything says to flush 3x the amount of the pot so I did 15 gal. Only 2/3 of what’s recommended
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This second flush?There drinking then thats a good sign,They need food now.
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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ToFarGone said:
you have critiqued other peoples posts twice now saying “bad information”. But do you have any good information to help this fellow grower out? Whats his problem and how does he fix it?
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I described the problem, but since you asked I will do that again. You can't over control a grow. You can't bottle feed this and that, flushing and flushing and expect success. Grows don't respond well and they don't work that way. You have to find the way to grow in soil that is a set it and forget it kind of thing. FFOF soil in a large container when the plant is about 1 foot tall. Just add water and nothing else. Subcool supersoil if you want to go that way, but that's a lot of work and waiting for the bacteria to break the nutrients down to the molecular level that plants can absorb. As for this grow in question. the plants will produce very little if anything as they've been tortured by manipulating the soil too much. My suggestion is to dump them and start over as these aren't even worth it now. Or move to a state where you can just get to a store and buy, if in the US.
 
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Jamk911

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Flushing doesnt do what alot of people think it does.. it just runs water through the soil .. doesnt really take away much from the soil
 
ToFarGone

ToFarGone

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polishpollack said:
I described the problem, but since you asked I will do that again. You can't over control a grow. You can't bottle feed this and that, flushing and flushing and expect success. Grows don't respond well and they don't work that way. You have to find the way to grow in soil that is a set it and forget it kind of thing. FFOF soil in a large container when the plant is about 1 foot tall. Just add water and nothing else. Subcool supersoil if you want to go that way, but that's a lot of work and waiting for the bacteria to break the nutrients down to the molecular level that plants can absorb. As for this grow in question. the plants will produce very little if anything as they've been tortured by manipulating the soil too much. My suggestion is to dump them and start over as these aren't even worth it now. Or move to a state where you can just get to a store and buy, if in the US.
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I hear you. Growing is something that is learned by making mistakes and learning from them. Best thing anyone can do is come to these open forums and ask for advice. I do believe advice should be 2 fold though.

you really did give him some good guidance on what to try next time and where to improve.

however. I believe there can always be a way to somewhat salvage a grow that someone has already spent a lot of time on and energy. Tossing the plant because it won’t produce picture quality, bud that me and you probably wouldn’t smoke is not an option for a lot of people especially causal growers and smokers.

Aside from just tossing the plant. And yes he has flushed everything out I understand that.

What sort of fertilizer and at what EC or PPm should he Start Feeding with to try and salvage something out of it?

You should be able to answer the above Question. If you are unable, all your posts have done to help as of now is
- pointed out everything he has done Wrong. “You can't bottle feed this and that, flushing and flushing and expect success”

- and told him to toss the plans and start Over. “My suggestion is to dump them and start over as these aren't even worth it now.”
 
osowhom

osowhom

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polishpollack said:
good grief. when so much is wrong, it will never be right. I don't know where you people get your ideas. bottle feed this, bottle feed that, flush, flush, flush. absurd. You have to find the effective way to grow in potting soil. You can't over control the grow with all the bottles and flushing and expect success. You're going to screw it up. Listening to bad info makes it worse.
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exactly i just finished my first succesful grow in soil didnt over think it just dry amandments and water and tiger bloom only in flower these guys are making their lives difficult just let the dam ladies grow get a good light good airflow and some spring water
 
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