Air pruning pots

[Bosgrower]

Do you have to worry about nutrient solution temps with a hempy bucket? What about PH drift?
I'm assuming you're getting better growth/yields with the hempy right?

No temperature problems ... just a reservoir outside the tents ... no need for airstones ... just 1 feeding a day.
It's drain to waste so no ppm or ph drift.
I like hempies but all methods produce well with the right lights, nutes, and enviroment.

 

[Star Dog]

Here's a photo from under the lids, the seeds were soaked/planted 1st August.

Hps isn't ideal for photos but you'll get the idea .

 

[nunyabidness420]

Here's a photo from under the lids, the seeds were soaked/planted 1st August.
Hps isn't ideal for photos but you'll get the idea .

I get it.
That's all root from top to bottom.
How well do the rivot things that hold the roll? together hold up?
Even if they break you can just tie the thing into a pot shape right?

 

[MickFoster]

I've been using air pots for years and love them.
I start in 1 ltr air pots and transplant at two weeks from sprout to a 2.4 gallon air pot.
I suggest covering them with pantyhose to deter fungus gnats.

These are the roots after just 2 weeks from sprout......just before transplant.

 

[Star Dog]

I get it.
That's all root from top to bottom.
How well do the rivot things that hold the roll? together hold up?
Even if they break you can just tie the thing into a pot shape right?

Yes a cable tie/plastic screw would be fine in a worst case scenario, I've used them for years and never broken one, there sufficiently strong.

Fwiw lids also stops the wet coco being exposed to the environment and raising the rh% and stops it drying out aiding salt build up + a healthy sized root ball

 

[nunyabidness420]

It looks like you can also cut the bottom of the roll and make the pots shorter in height.
Do you guys use a stand off or something to keep the bottom off the drainage tray?

 

[Star Dog]

@nunyabidness420
The truth is I discovered it by chance, i used perlite in the past and it went all algae green and looked horrible, as well as stopping the algae I noticed the other benifits of a plastic lid... who'd have thunk it

It looks like you can also cut the bottom of the roll and make the pots shorter in height.
Do you guys use a stand off or something to keep the bottom off the drainage tray?

If you see post #24 there a bottom you can mount half way if you choose making a 2 gallon a one gallon, but that aside there a slightly higher row of knuckles around the pot about 1" of the deck.

 

[Nizza]

when you fill your air pots ( the plastic wavy ones) be sure to push the soil or other media out to fill the cones while you fill the container it will make a huge difference

also follow the manufacturers recommendation of where to put the base ring, and fill it all the way up. the top cones are typically closed so water doesn't immediately go out of the pot

I use floraflex caps on my air pots and it helps keep the moisture in

 

[MickFoster]

also follow the manufacturers recommendation of where to put the base ring, and fill it all the way up. the top cones are typically closed so water doesn't immediately go out of the pot

I like to place the bottom at the lowest point to increase the volume of coco........the manufacturer recommends one row up from that.......I don't know why.
As far as I know, only the original air pots have the top two rows without holes........the knock offs have holes all the way up.

 

[Cookie Rider]

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Air pots

I like fabric personally. But everyone has they're own opinions

I rock these.
They often sell out, like every two months so I get a few if I see them in stock. Six 5 gallons where around $80.
I like how they come apart and lay flat for storage and washing.
The dimples need a good scrubbing after each round to get the salts out.
They are really good for air flow around and below the roots.

 

[Oakiey]

Them air pruning pots were made for trees that's going to be in a pot for a year or two, and they work good.

For a weed that's going to be in the pot for a few months you really just wasted money



3 months in a 5 gallon bucket

 

[Star Dog]

Them air pruning pots were made for trees that's going to be in a pot for a year or two, and they work good.

For a weed that's going to be in the pot for a few months you really just wasted money

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3 months in a 5 gallon bucket

I think you're missing the point, for the same input and money spent your reward is greater, look at them as an investment, i can only speak for me but I've had the bottom of a air pot popped/pushed out from convex to concaved during a flowering period there's no doubt in my mind there better than a pot.

 

[Oakiey]

You you can throw all the money in the world at a weed and it ain't going to grow no faster

 

[MickFoster]

You you can throw all the money in the world at a weed and it ain't going to grow no faster

If you've never thrown money away on equipment trying to find the perfect combination for the perfect plants........then you're the only one in the world.

 

[Flowki]

Them air pruning pots were made for trees that's going to be in a pot for a year or two, and they work good.

For a weed that's going to be in the pot for a few months you really just wasted money

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3 months in a 5 gallon bucket

3 months in a 4 gallon air pot. Sides look the same, full of roots with very little sign of root circling.

You you can throw all the money in the world at a weed and it ain't going to grow no faster

Coco for one pot - $3? / faster growth
Air pot - $10? / smaller pot can be used, very hard to root bound

Humidifier/dehuey+controllers - $500-+ / even loosely sticking in the vpd range will increase growth
Units to add/remove heat - $200/500?+ (depends on if you need ac etc) / again keeps you in vpd range to increase growth
Drip feed systems - $10-50 / increase growth
cob/led - $1000 for a 4x4 (vague estimate). They spread the intensity out, turn more W to light and increase over all canopy growth over single source high W bulbs (aside from the rare vertical cage growers).

In the grand scheme of things air pots and coco cost nothing, but are a big part of making the most of increased growth from climate control units and good lighting. If you don't spend the above, you are at the mercy of natural ambient temps and rh levels. Bud rot, high rh reducing uptake, cold roots reducing uptake/creating lock outs, hot temps with high rh resulting in root rot, low rh heat stress, over respiration, toxicity's and on and on and on.

Stay as basic as you want, that's up to you, but your comments are pure bs.

 

[Oakiey]

My climate is controlled, that's money you have to spend, them fancy doodad buckets not so much

 

[Rjt08]

can you use clay pellets instead of coco in airpots, im sure u can just wodering if that combination works ok

 

[Flowki]

My climate is controlled, that's money you have to spend, them fancy doodad buckets not so much

As if the various units to control climate don't have sub par options. Given the choice I'd pick doodad buckets over traditional ones every time. Just like I'd pick a proper volt step in/out controller (upto $300?) over a cheap W dial ($30?). Both work ofc, but multiple good reasons to pay extra.

 

[nunyabidness420]

You you can throw all the money in the world at a weed and it ain't going to grow no faster

That's simply not true.
CO2, hydroponics, monitoring equipment, climate control, lighting just to name a few.

 

[nunyabidness420]

Them air pruning pots were made for trees that's going to be in a pot for a year or two, and they work good.
For a weed that's going to be in the pot for a few months you really just wasted money

That's a fair point.
I've had a lot of potted plants that didn't roots circling the bottom of the pot.
But what about aeration?