AK Bean Brains

Robar

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Shot a video but apparently can't upload those, so anyway... Today will be fist day of flower on 8 Dope Beard Durban ladies. I have 1 male that I've saved to make some seed with. Had 2 but 1 acted like he was a super male and got the chop. I'll end up dusting a couple chosen females (clones of) with him later on.

Coincidentally I'm still smoking the heavily, black poison leaning- Black Poison Skunk from Kos that I found over a year ago. It's what I smoke every day so I'll be hitting her as well. I plan on making lots of seeds from the pairing for later use.

A note on stench factor - They F***ing reek! Well most do. I got one girl who is very faint of odor so we'll see what we see with her. But her sisters are very smelly. They smell like funky chicken soup stale sweat B.O. stank-E-ness with something even my sinister hiding in the shadows. Funky Shit!

Some pics will come and I'll make sure to drop an update now and then. Have a great day.
 

Alpadrino

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I'm an old school HPS dude too but am thinking it's time to make the switch. Nice to know that they help control the stretch. Added bonus!
Pretty much all I use to flower Also i like 600 watt hps but I veg under 3 eight lamp t5 fixtures that I swapped out with t5 led lamps they work really good
 

HamNEggs

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How did the Consumption turn out??? How much did they grow after flip??? Potent??? Good production????
Honestly I only had one female and a male that made it and while she started off good and was pretty stony I wasn't that keen on the flavor. Others have had better lookin ladies from them but the one I had was a pass. It stretched like crazy but did carry some good sized flowers. I managed to make some seed and might chuck a few just to see if maybe I can do them better justice.Consumption 5-28  (2).jpgConsumption 5-28 (12).JPGConsumption 5-28 (10).JPG
 

jimihendrix1

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For what it's worth I remember reading where the Rev. (Kingdom Organic Seeds) said BOG's boggle gum is Bog's bubblegum x a "Real Deal" NL5.

If original NL5 is a cut, you have to speculate toward the obvious assumption. To have males some back crossing had to have happened for a standardized seed line to exist. Purely my speculation but it seems the most logical.

From what I understand Seattle Greg bred and holds the genetics to the original NL5... The old, original NL5 cut everyone speaks of is a special plant that was genetics made by Seattle Greg.

But the cut that went to Europe/Nevil, did originally come from seeds that Seattle Greg made. They hybridized it with something else, and everyone from then on calls the Hybrid, NL5. Sensi Seeds ect, but as of about 10 or so years, Sensi no longer advertises their NL as NL5. Only as NL. I believe they lost the original Male genetics. Though the NL5 from late 80s0-90s-mid 2000s Sensi Seeds NL5 was extremely potent, and stacks up against almost anything. Id buy it now if they had it.

Also from what I understand, Seattle Greg has given Todd McCormick some of the Original NL5 Seeds the old clone came from. I believe the popular clone Nevil got comes from 1984, or earlier.
Todd plans on breeding the NL5 to Mel Franks Original Haze for NL5 x Haze seeds. Todd also has a killer Original Nevils Haze Male.
Todd as of right now has the Real Deal PURE as the driven snow HAZE SEEDS. Straight from Mel Frank, who got them from Skunkman decades ago. These are the real, unadultered thing. But remember only about 10% are highly desirable.

But when NL5 seeds from Holland were being sold, they were using a different male to make their version of NL5. Thus the confusion. I also always thought NL5 was clone only. It IS, if you go by the really old clone everyone is familiar with, but it seems Seattle Greg does have the original genetics saved back. Ive also heard SG also recently gave someone else some of the seeds.
 

jimihendrix1

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Had to go ahead and order 2 packs of the AKBB Tk/NL5/Haze.

Bakersfields huge bud photos did it, and the smoke report. Sounds like some good stuff that produces alot.

I figure I can find a real keeper from 2 packs. Maybe even 2-3. Id also like to keep a few of the best males on tap. Id say the best males from this stuff will pass some killer genetics.

How much do these stretch in flowering?? Hopefully alot. Probably be a week, or 2 before theyre started.

I plan on vegging them for 60 days, under either a 1000w Hortilux HPS, or a 1150w DE Gavita, and up to 5 gallons of Promix BX, and fabric pots, and then transplant 6 of them into 20 gallon containers at flip. Flower under 2 x 1150w DE. I think 6 of them with the crap vegged out of them, flowered in 20 gallon containers is all the space can take. The rest Ill try to locate in wasted light areas, and keep them in 5 gallon containers.
They come in packs of 12, and if I have 100% germ rate, and 50% are M/F that leaves 12 females. 6 in big containers, and 6 in 5 gallon. Or whatever I end up with.

I also plan on Bending the plants over at an early age. No topping. I want to take advantage of the stretch. The more the better.
 
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Robar

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From what I understand Seattle Greg bred and holds the genetics to the original NL5... The old, original NL5 cut everyone speaks of is a special plant that was genetics made by Seattle Greg.

But the cut that went to Europe/Nevil, did originally come from seeds that Seattle Greg made. They hybridized it with something else, and everyone from then on calls the Hybrid, NL5. Sensi Seeds ect, but as of about 10 or so years, Sensi no longer advertises their NL as NL5. Only as NL. I believe they lost the original Male genetics. Though the NL5 from late 80s0-90s-mid 2000s Sensi Seeds NL5 was extremely potent, and stacks up against almost anything. Id buy it now if they had it.

Also from what I understand, Seattle Greg has given Todd McCormick some of the Original NL5 Seeds the old clone came from. I believe the popular clone Nevil got comes from 1984, or earlier.
Todd plans on breeding the NL5 to Mel Franks Original Haze for NL5 x Haze seeds. Todd also has a killer Original Nevils Haze Male.
Todd as of right now has the Real Deal PURE as the driven snow HAZE SEEDS. Straight from Mel Frank, who got them from Skunkman decades ago. These are the real, unadultered thing. But remember only about 10% are highly desirable.

But when NL5 seeds from Holland were being sold, they were using a different male to make their version of NL5. Thus the confusion. I also always thought NL5 was clone only. It IS, if you go by the really old clone everyone is familiar with, but it seems Seattle Greg does have the original genetics saved back. Ive also heard SG also recently gave someone else some of the seeds.
Thank you for the history lesson. Seriously! I have wanted to get my hands on NL5 for a long time. I bought the NL5 that Akbb was selling over a year ago. It was never advertised as a bx or anything like that. If I remember correctly he said his was an sssc female that he bred with a nl5 male that was passing around up in AK or some-such. may not be the purest but when I finally get to growing out those seeds I'm sure (I hope) I'll be pleased. Lots of pics on instagram of his genetics and they look pretty nice.

With that said it would be nice if Seattle Greg released the genetics far and wide for the masses. I've wanted to grow the real thing for a long time, maybe someday.
 

jimihendrix1

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That stuff.. hybrid NL5 that came from Sensi/Nevil was pure fire. Be glad youve got it. Like I said, if Sensi still had the NL5 they sold 15 years ago, Id be the first in line to buy some. There are several cuts people have kept from 89, and so on, and when you can, if they come from a reputable breeder, buy all of them you can.

The cut AKBB used for the mother came from Marc Emery( Canada ) from 1992, and he most likely got it out of some packs of Sensi Seeds.
 
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