Defoliate vs didnt do jack vs lollipop

Does this help anyone?


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Wizzlebiz

Well-Known Member
Monday update.

From left to right.

Defoliated, didnt do shit, and lollipop
As always disclaimer: defoliated is 1 week behind the other 2 for start of flower. Didnt do shit and lollipop began to flower on the same day.
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Everyone is still happy, super healthy, and covered in ash.

Fed Fox Farms top 3 66% of recommended values.

Now for the interesting information.

Didn't do shit is far ahead of defoliated and lollipop in terms of close to finished. My assumption on that is it wasn't fucked with. No pulling off leaves causing redirection of energy slowing bud progression, no pulling off lower nodes to redirect energy to the top. Again assumption but it makes sense in my head. The only training didnt do shit got was pre flower.

Here are the buds.

Defoliated
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Didnt do shit
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Lollipop
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As we can see although didnt do shit is closest to being done lollipop will absolutely destroy it in weight. No question in my mind now on that.

However I withhold judgment on defoliated as it is 1 week behind the other 2.

Hope all is well for everyone. Have a wonderful day and if you have any questions about the grow please feel free to ask.
 

MajorCoco

Well-Known Member
This is good of you to do.

Personally I tend not to do anything to my plants...so I have no real-world experience of how plants react to heavy pruning, however I'd always read that pruning was used to keep plants low.
This implies (to me at least) that "didn't do jack" plants will (all else being equal) be taller than pruned plants.

Am I missing something there? Are people who top their plants actually ending up with more height at the end?!

Cos I was just wondering why we are seeing the reverse of what I'd expect here height-wise. The untouched tree is clearly the shortest by far. Just pheno differences perhaps?
 

Wizzlebiz

Well-Known Member
This is good of you to do.

Personally I tend not to do anything to my plants...so I have no real-world experience of how plants react to heavy pruning, however I'd always read that pruning was used to keep plants low.
This implies (to me at least) that "didn't do jack" plants will (all else being equal) be taller than pruned plants.

Am I missing something there? Are people who top their plants actually ending up with more height at the end?!

Cos I was just wondering why we are seeing the reverse of what I'd expect here height-wise. The untouched tree is clearly the shortest by far. Just pheno differences perhaps?
That plant was more LST than the other 2. Knowing I was going this path I needed to make sure mobility wasn't an issue. I kinda did more than intended is the answer there.
 

DoobieDoobs

Well-Known Member
This is good of you to do.

Personally I tend not to do anything to my plants...so I have no real-world experience of how plants react to heavy pruning, however I'd always read that pruning was used to keep plants low.
This implies (to me at least) that "didn't do jack" plants will (all else being equal) be taller than pruned plants.

Am I missing something there? Are people who top their plants actually ending up with more height at the end?!

Cos I was just wondering why we are seeing the reverse of what I'd expect here height-wise. The untouched tree is clearly the shortest by far. Just pheno differences perhaps?
I think it depends on what branch you prune, if you prune the too branches, it would help keeping them low, like topping does.
 

smtent

Active Member
Those plants all look good I grow indoors and I thought the major defoliation was more for that directional lighting situations then outdoors so this is interesting to me. I have done some major defoliation on several of my grows now and I am pretty happy with the results. I think taking the suckers off the lower branches is more helpful than anything though.
 
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