1st from Seed Grow (Cowboy Style)

Londoner

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Dont worry too much about the clones wilting a bit mate, its perfectly normal, mine are all drooped and sagging over, when you cut the clone, you cut off its water supply from the roots of its mother, so they will wilt/droop until the very first root nubs begin to grow, then itl start uptaking water again and itl pick up, as long as you keep em covered and lightly mist them once a day, and keep them a good distance from the light they should be cool ;-)
 
Don Gin and Ton

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the new beans are doing good :)
the cuttings look like sunday dinner cabbage :cry:
the plants have some sort of heat stress/nute burn or some shit:neutral: looking at the growfaq possibly Zinc Toxicity i noticed this morning the upper parts of the plant looked a bit lighter than the rest...
the ballast for the new 600 smells like burning marzipam or something WTF???

am just hoping it all pulls together.. .
 

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Don Gin and Ton said:
the new beans are doing good :)
the cuttings look like sunday dinner cabbage :cry:
the plants have some sort of heat stress/nute burn or some shit:neutral: looking at the growfaq possibly Zinc Toxicity i noticed this morning the upper parts of the plant looked a bit lighter than the rest...
the ballast for the new 600 smells like burning marzipam or something WTF???

am just hoping it all pulls together.. .
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It definately looks like heat stress to me mate, is that your average temp? 29.7c? thats too hot mate, its ok for certain strains, but most will get stressed at that temp, you need it around 26-27, your humidity is rather high too, its does look kinda fungal to me too, just remembering how my fungal infection on the cheese started, mine started more as spots, but didnt look too different, but with that humidity being high you cant rule out fungus, its rife in the uk at the mo!!! everyones gettin it, plus humidity that high in late flower will almost certainly cause budrot.

Dont worry about the clones, they should be fine.

Your ballast smelling of burning? Hmmmmmmmm lol dont sound good mate.

Thats a maxibright ballast yea? Theyre normally pretty good, is it one of the sealed compact ballasts? with no vent holes?
 
Don Gin and Ton

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Londoner said:
It definately looks like heat stress to me mate, is that your average temp? 29.7c? thats too hot mate, its ok for certain strains, but most will get stressed at that temp, you need it around 26-27, your humidity is rather high too, its does look kinda fungal to me too, just remembering how my fungal infection on the cheese started, mine started more as spots, but didnt look too different, but with that humidity being high you cant rule out fungus, its rife in the uk at the mo!!! everyones gettin it, plus humidity that high in late flower will almost certainly cause budrot.

Dont worry about the clones, they should be fine.

Your ballast smelling of burning? Hmmmmmmmm lol dont sound good mate.

Thats a maxibright ballast yea? Theyre normally pretty good, is it one of the sealed compact ballasts? with no vent holes?
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balls oh well guess i need to make some changes and pronto... the 29c is actually the max temp after 12 hrs of light, it was 26.7 when i left this morning( but the light had only been on 2 hours. ill whip the oscilllating fan back in tonight but apart from that am not sure how i can get the temps down :-? i could open the window in the room. i guess it wouldnt smell outside with the filter pulling in through the tent vents...

i hope its not this fungal carry on, i dont know how i could have got it its not like i go rambling on fells or owt?! guess ill just have to keep an eye on it n fingers crossed.

yeah the ballast smells realy odd like nothing ive smelled before and its really f@cking hot i know their meant to get hot but seriously... i had to put the thing on a plate for fear the wooden table would catch fire! yeah it is a maxibright without vents

honestly where did it all go wrong lol
 
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balls oh well guess i need to make some changes and pronto... the 29c is actually the max temp after 12 hrs of light, it was 26.7 when i left this morning( but the light had only been on 2 hours. ill whip the oscilllating fan back in tonight but apart from that am not sure how i can get the temps down :-? i could open the window in the room. i guess it wouldnt smell outside with the filter pulling in through the tent vents...

i hope its not this fungal carry on, i dont know how i could have got it its not like i go rambling on fells or owt?! guess ill just have to keep an eye on it n fingers crossed.

yeah the ballast smells realy odd like nothing ive smelled before and its really f@cking hot i know their meant to get hot but seriously... i had to put the thing on a plate for fear the wooden table would catch fire!

honestly where did it all go wrong lol
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Youve got your extractor n filter running now yea? Try shortening any lengths of duct and reduce any bends in it, that will help the airflow and reduce resistance, did you get a fast clamp with the fan/filter, to mount the filter directly to the fan? they help alot because they do away with the need for ducting between them, yep opening the window while the light is on will help alot to bring the temps down, the cold air being drawn in will help to bring it down, but just remember to close it at lights off, its getting bloody cold now lol

The fungus can start in many ways, you have to remember that the air we breath all around us is full of airborne spores and pathogens that can infect your plants, theyre harmless to us but can be lethal to certain plant species, if say you have a bit of heat stress or you over feed once and you get some leaf necrosis, this leaves the leaves vulnerable to attack from these air bourne spores, theres certain fungicide products you can try in veg or early flower if it gets too bad, if it is fungal theres beneficial fungi/bacteria products that can be used on future plants to prevent re-occurance.

Iv ordered some webbys essence thats only available via a forum moderator on a different site, its contains all sorts of friendly fungi and bacterias that eats up pretty much all harmfull pathogens and works in harmony with the plants, you have to brew it up for 24hours with mollasses to activate/feed it, and water at 30c then foliar spray the plants with it and will colonise the host plant and compost providing life long protection, its the best known cure for fungal infection in the uk ;-)

The ballats dont sound right to me mate, yea some of them do get pretty hot, but that sounds too hot, my 600w ballast is only ever warm to the touch, but funnily enough my 250w ballast gets much hotter that the 600!!?? but still it doesnt get hot enough for me to worry about it, and the smell of burning?? lol id be too scared to use it mate lol
 
Don Gin and Ton

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FUCK the ballast is deffo more than warm to the touch its like too hot to touch :cry: my house could be on fire as we speak...

man thats gonna mess up my grow seriously if i have to send the thing back and get a replacement. ill have to use the dodgy 400 for the interim. bollox

i didnt get a fast clamp sadly, the fan didnt even come with a plug man... n id heard that the acoustic lined ducting stuff was needed with noisey fans, mine is deffo not a stealth grow... i could take ducting off the inward side of the fan i guess that would help but as for attaching the filter straight to it i think id then have a problem of how to suspend the thing in/outside the tent....

think ill spend some time this weekend replanning the tent......

cheers for the advice, n fingers crossed theres no fire engine outside my crib
 
Don Gin and Ton

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thanx man, guess you get what you pay for. ive left a message for the ebay shop to ring me back.

the messages about melted maxibrights really doesnt inspire confidence :roll:

am so pleased i decided to make daytime the 12hours on when people are awake......
 
Don Gin and Ton

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cuttings have pretty much all but perished :cry: dunno what i did wrong ive been misting them and followed the procedure to the letter on cutting at an angle etcetc used clonex, the cupboard is nice and warm?! need to learn how to do this shit if im going to start a purpetual garden.

have set one away in water and one staright into soil just as an experiment.

have also managed to get the tent temp down max 26.2 with 55% humidity just by putting the fan back in and the outward ducting at the end of the bulb reflector. ( the ballast still feels like the surface of the sun, but the funny plastic/ink smell is getting less with each day?!WTF)

and i think theyve started showing sex but i couldnt say either way on that. Anyone that can tell from the pics please shout up!!
 

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Mornin Don mate

Glad you got ya temps sorted, but what happened to the clones man? Dont give up on em, they do start to look really shitty after a few days, but they pick up.
 
Don Gin and Ton

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mornin chief! i hear your pimpin your girls out?! or is it just mr west making improper advances lol

well the clones just wilted and withered and then some of the leaves went yellow n just didnt take:neutral: i dont know what i fucked up?! the propagator has holes in the bottom which i was thinkin i should have taped up but then again i guessed the cuts need oxygen so i didnt bother. who knows they might have picked up but im guessing if i havent been there to mist them theyll be done for...

im not stressing too much about the clones as they were just a fall back in case i got a load of males from this bagseed grow. ive been away a couple of days n cant wait to go home n have a butchers, see if the balls have developed any further :cry: pics tomorrow

peas
 
Londoner

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Yes mate, im now running the UK's first weed plant pimping service, so far iv got Mr West marrying one plant, and Fyfe wanting to rape Mr West's newlywed wife, can i offer you any botani-erotic services?? Lmao

Yea the holes in the prop need to be closed up mate, you wanna try and maintain a humidity of as close to 100% as possible, at least for the first few days, just lifting the lid once per day to mist and change the air in the prop, although i have forgoten about clones in the past and theyve rooted fine with no misting or air exchange.

Mine always wilt the first two days or so, then after a couple of days i start opening the prop vents, just a tiny amount at first, then fully open by the time theyve rooted to harden them off a bit before they come out the prop and go into pots.
 
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well london ive heard that you got the finest big booty bitches round the manor hahahahaaa botanerotic services lmao does this involve a massage with hash oils and fan leaves :lol::lol::lol:

speaking of sex....

i had a closer look n ive deffo got at least 4 girls, 3 the jury is still out on and one confirmed male, which i pulled out last night. i was a bit gutted but it made a nice house plant on the living room table for a couple of hours.

i did wonder about the holes in the bottom of the propagator ill duct tape them up next time round, interestingly enough the one i stuck in a cup of water seems to be doing tip top?! the first 8 clones are donald ducked to say the least i pulled them out the root riot cubes n they didnt have any sign of roots what so ever... the pic is pitiful

just wondering do you soak the root riots before you plant clones?
 

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Nice1 on the four fems!! Whoop Whoop!!

Yea them clones are done for aint they, yea theyve dried out mate, on the root riot instructions it says theyre pre-soaked but i always find them a bit dry, so yea i do soak them first, i just drop them in a bowl of lukewarm water for a minit, then squeeze out the excess water, but not too much so its dry again, sorry i should have said, i can see the riots are too dry by the colour, they should be alot darker.
 
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