MICHI-CAN
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Hardly. LOL. Wild Chinese mountain rose. High altitude dwarf. Not suited for my locale.
Pretty smart or pretty dumb?
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The Gram Reaper
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Oh it looks very similar to my goji berry vine (also from China). Its like the Chinese breed everything to have thorns, and if they can't have thorns then they make it an invasive species that grows like its on steroids. Love the root work.
Edit: I get all roses have thorns, but thems some thorns.
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MICHI-CAN
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The roots are the easy part. Germinating sucks. Roses can be pain. But these are 4/250. That was almost 2 years old and in dormancy in my mini fridge. Hit 65 outside in the spring. Done. Bosaiied for too long on third shift. But plant experimentation and manipulation are really rewarding. Even when you fail. That's why I support @Mrs. Weedstein and the pursuits.
The Gram Reaper
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I like doing bonsai, it gives me a long term plant to work with and enjoy. With marijuana, its here and gone.
I love the posts, I poke fun because I left for so long and return to Weedstein still dedicated to crazy experiments.
I love the posts, I poke fun because I left for so long and return to Weedstein still dedicated to crazy experiments.
MICHI-CAN
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A true bonsai requires generations to share the privilege. Long term is not truly appreciated. Cheaper than a shrink and always available.
Next freak dwarf plant I get I want to veg forever into a topiary piece. I've kept mothers for a few years. Why not.
Crazy brought you everything you enjoy in life. Peace and humor always.
Mrs. Weedstein
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Thank you both for the kind words regarding my drunken exploits.
By the way, I have found one advantage to my little experiment: Now that I have trained the plants the old-fashioned way by tying them down, the main stem is way more pliable. It just bends over without acting like it’s about to snap.
So if I’ve learned anything, it’s that I might try this again without attempting to over-manipulate so it forms a circle. Might just be a way to pre-condition the plant to an LST type situation.
MedicinalMyA$$
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I've done this before with a really stretchy prolifically branchy keeper pheno.
Used square-ish storage containers, cut about a 2" hole through the lids about 2/3 to one side, stuck a clone in each, turned it on it's side, drilled a few holes in the 'top' sides for watering, and grew them out the sides of the containers and trellised them espalier style or vert method, nice and flat like a wall, all the tops sticking through one side. Then when they had filled the trellis netting I turned them on their side and ta-da instant scrog. Filled the holes in the old 'tops' of the containers (which are now sides) with cutouts of camping mats like the stuff used for cloning collars although tbh it wasn't really necessary.
Had four of these in a 4x4 tent using 2 stacked 400w HPS to get stretch vertical style, right to the top of the tent with the filter and fan outside the tent sucking air through the fan then out through the filter. Then when they were ready they would get reoriented and a few days to turn upwards before they would get flipped in another room. They would then get the first 3-4 weeks of 12/12 under MH to minimize stretch then back to HPS til they were done.
I had tried normal scrogs with this strain but it was just too messy and took longer for a lesser result. Using HPS on the vertical scrog part would enable me to fill the trellis in and spread quicker, it was really branchy so amount of tops wasn't a problem. On average about 3.5 - 4 weeks to fill the net satisfactorily.
That strain is now long gone to the Borg and I have switched to more conventional horizontal scrog using LED, but this technique does work with the proper implementation. I was using it because of strain phenotype and space requirements and most importantly it was a faster means to a better result for me.
Used square-ish storage containers, cut about a 2" hole through the lids about 2/3 to one side, stuck a clone in each, turned it on it's side, drilled a few holes in the 'top' sides for watering, and grew them out the sides of the containers and trellised them espalier style or vert method, nice and flat like a wall, all the tops sticking through one side. Then when they had filled the trellis netting I turned them on their side and ta-da instant scrog. Filled the holes in the old 'tops' of the containers (which are now sides) with cutouts of camping mats like the stuff used for cloning collars although tbh it wasn't really necessary.
Had four of these in a 4x4 tent using 2 stacked 400w HPS to get stretch vertical style, right to the top of the tent with the filter and fan outside the tent sucking air through the fan then out through the filter. Then when they were ready they would get reoriented and a few days to turn upwards before they would get flipped in another room. They would then get the first 3-4 weeks of 12/12 under MH to minimize stretch then back to HPS til they were done.
I had tried normal scrogs with this strain but it was just too messy and took longer for a lesser result. Using HPS on the vertical scrog part would enable me to fill the trellis in and spread quicker, it was really branchy so amount of tops wasn't a problem. On average about 3.5 - 4 weeks to fill the net satisfactorily.
That strain is now long gone to the Borg and I have switched to more conventional horizontal scrog using LED, but this technique does work with the proper implementation. I was using it because of strain phenotype and space requirements and most importantly it was a faster means to a better result for me.