Psilocybe Cubensis Equadorian

[Beaner]

okay here is an update, first a pic from saturday:

and here is how much they have grown as of monday morning, they are growing pretty fast,

as i had a few really big ones last harvest im hoping this one will be ready by wednesday or thursday, and yeild some nice mushrooms to start isolating strains. these flushes will only last for a few more weeks and i need to get my jars innoculated so they will colonize in time, though cloning takes a week, so i don't think i will get them out in time, but my plan is to make a bigger chamber with a 2.5 foot long rubbermade tub, lined with damp pearlite, and two airpumps blowing bubbles into two cups of water and hydrogen peroxide at each end of the tub, the nine cakes, god willing none get contaminated, will get split up into two 1'-1' foil tins with casings on top and stuck in there, im thinking that could yield quite a bit, if i am successfull, would the next logical step be to isolate the bigest, fastest growing mushroom from that flush and inoculate more jars? and keep doing that over and over? or would i not really be doing any good?

 

[Flyvagaric]

Its good that you are thinking about isolating a strain and cloning the fastest mushroom. This is good and you can do this for a couple generations as well, But with a clone.. the genetics degrade with each Generation. You will not see as good of a flush with the second/third Generation of a particular Clone. But i beleive you can take spore prints of the clones !

Your casing seems to be showing that same thing with the small, bubbly mushrooms. Im curious as to the contributing factors... wether its the genetics in your syringe or the way you are doing things.

Honestly Hydrogen peroxide is not needed. Just use Tap water for misting the sides of the Fruit chamber and to rinse your perilite, this will keep the germs out of the perilite. Clean your perilite in each Fruit chamber after each casing/cake/cakes are finished. Tap water has chlorine and other things that are supposed to be good for our teeth, ect. and To kill all the germs.

I never use hydrogen peroxide. This could be a factor in your small bubbly mushies. Or it could be left over bleach from a previous cleaning.
Let us know how it goes.

 

[BaconSquishy]

Honestly Hydrogen peroxide is not needed.

I use peroxide for hydrating perlite only because when the peroxide decomposes, it releases extra oxygen which helps combat high CO2 and make shrooms b

 

[Beaner]

well i haven't used any peroxide but yes the same thing has happened to my casing, growth has stunted and almost stopped, i am getting so frusterated, nobody at all will reply to my threads on the mushroom boards asking for help. i read that casing need a special fruiting chamber, but i can't seem to find any info at all on it. so they are in pearlite, and the three cakes, pinned overnight and then all aborted the next day, why would this happen? the last flush was nice, i had a few 3-4 inch ones that looked just like they should and i thought i was done with this bullshit.

everybody, and i mean EVERYBODY seems to get nice flushes, they grow super fast, even the newbies, and i follow every word i can find and they are growing like shit, if i don't find out what is the problem soon im just going to give up, this shit is so fucking annoying i could scream!

update, i got bored and said fuck it, im going to give the casing a chance, because the mushies are still tan colored with red caps, and havent darkened yet, maybe my casing is too moist? i noticed today im getting mycellium growing through the casing in lots of places, i thought it was supposed to mostly stop growing once it was put too fruit???

I also mixed up 8 more jars pf tek style and they are steralizing as we speak, this evening im just going to glove box innoculate them with multispore mycelium, and try isolating a strain next time, from what i read, it doesnt help much anyway and if you guys are right about them losing vigour, well then why bother?? though i have been reading about people using the same lc clones for over a year, and they arent complaining. ill innoculate tonight with as much mycellium as i can spare, i have about half a cakes worth set aside for this, im hoping it will colonize fast since its already alive unlike the spores.

as for the cakes i picked all the aborts off and stuck them in the dunk for 24 hours, a step i decided to skip this time wich might, though not likely be the cause to my flush of aborts.

 

[Flyvagaric]

Hey man.. Don't get so annoyed quite yet.
Honestly, If mushrooms were so easy to grow.. everyone would be doing it.
Well ok, not everyone, but a hell of a lot more people would be in on this shit if it was as easy as .. lets say growing weed.

Don't trip out. there is a big chance it is genetics, The casing could also be to moist. Maybe there is TOO MUCH humidity in your fruit chamber ?

I just lost a very large bulk substrate to green mold. It was very upsetting.
What i did was i scrapped off the green mold into a trash bag.. rinse the rest of the substrate under tap water. And put it out side in a black trash bag mixed with dirt.

Maybe if casings are not working out, your best bet is to stick with cakes.
Pint cakes will give you a bigger harvest then those tiny 1/2 pints.

 

[Beaner]

yeah my plan is now too make a large tub, and put moist pearlite with one large pump, blowing air to two rocks, in two cups one at each end, to help with air exchange, i might get those 6 inch long triangular rocks and make two long traughs of water, for more even distribution, i figure that should be fairly good for cakes, and deal with casing later on, i mean a good flush on 24 cakes, well that could be almost half a pound a week, i needn't be too gready i guess, the cakes were doing ok, i am going to pick the casing clean, and dunk it, tonight, so you can expect some more philosophy from tweeking beaner, lol but how do i dunk a casing?????

 

[Flyvagaric]

Same way you dunk a cake.. You just need to find a container with a lid big enough to fit the casing.

 

[Beaner]

well folks, i got super tired of dealing with stunted shrooms, so i went out and made a nice little chamber, it hopefully will hold 12 cakes nice and neet. fresh air exchange is caused by two air pumps bubbling up from inside two cups that i zip tied and gorrilla glued to the sides of the chamber, inside the cups is water and peroxide. the bubbles keep it nice and humid inside the chamber and the first 5 days have produced some nice little mushies from the casing, though the flush was small, i think because i didn't dunk and the casing layer might be a bit to thick, either way it is growing way less than standard cakes so i am going to stick with a few bulk grows of cakes, before i worry about anything els. i innoculated 8 more jars, don't know if i mentioned that, but they should be ready in about a week, and ill toss the last 3 cakes and the casing, as the cakes are so old they are only putting out huge flushes of grey aborts, no real mushrooms, and the casing, well it's just a waste of space at this point, only growing 2-4 shrooms from 2 nice looking cakes, thats a crap yield if you ask me.

 

[Beaner]

final harvest shot.... my battery ran out just as i took the pic so no post harvest, though with the three cakes and casing it looks like ill be having some fun tonight!!lol now i must be off to charge my camera for my trip to the swamp. peace fellas.

 

[battosai]

awesome you got some nice fruits! im happy it came through. my half pint cakes didnt produce much at all. one made 3 aborts and a tiny mushroom and the other made like 3 nice size mushrooms and a bunch of small ones. my casing though looks good! i used a thin layer of peat-perlite and kept it 100%humidity 0 fresh air exchange for 2-3 days while it tried to colonize, then put it to fruit. this is what happened

im happy your doing this too.. few on the site are so its up to us to keep doing it.

 

[Beaner]

oh yeah they went well, however, i had problems with the casing, i don't know what i did wrong but i slid the thing out of its container and found about 2o grams wet of pins and mushrooms trying to grow on the sides!!! i mean ever inch was just covered in a nest of shrooms, took me almost an hour to get them all off, and rather than risk contams from the rot of dead mushrooms inside the cake, i opted to cut the cake into 4 pieces, about the size of a normal pf cake. and im just pretending they are normal pf cakes now, it's wierd that two cakes crumbled managed to fill in most of the gaps and make almost 4 cakes when cut appart!

battosai--i noticed you grew your ricans with cracked corn, have you ever used brown rice flour, and if yes, did you notice a difference in yeild?

 

[Beaner]

i want to start drying my mushrooms and weighing them before i let my freinds try them because i want to dose correctly but my damn digital scale is out of zero, i have instructions to get it back to normal, but i need a 100 gram calibration weight, i have checked all the local smoke shops and can't find any! only the larger 300 gram ones, does anyone know how i could make my own 100 gram weight without using another scale too weigh it? I mean i could do that, but it would take me a few days to get access to another digi.

 

[battosai]

your in luck dood. i've recalibrated scales with 20 nickels. its 100 grams, its weird because it seems like each nickel is just slightly different, but every time ive done it, they're practically dead on.

i've never used brf before or pf tek. my only experience is with corn.. this was my first from start to finish.

 

[Beaner]

well amazing job! i heard the nickle thing, but didn't think it would work cause most nickles were like 4.8 grams but ill try it, could make it too far off right? it's just a pain cause now that they are dry i can't visualize a good dose as well but ill try the nickles.

 

[Beaner]

well it's been a long time since i updated, lets see, i have gotten a few more doses from the origanal cakes, wich are finally growing problem free, nice and tall mushies, thanks to my new tub with added fresh air exchange. here is a pic of my biggest mushroom so far, it's just a half inch longer than it was in real life.

my cakes were almost spent and i have been pretty much unsuccessful getting new cakes spawned without contams killing them right away. this led me to reaserch pasturization of horse poo, and after walking a fenceline of a nice little horse farm i got plenty of dried poo for a long time.

i soaked the poo for an hour at 165 degrees to "pasturise" the poo, basicly just kill off all harmful contaminations without killing the helpfull bacteria. i think they are called "firefang" or something, but apparently they kill contaminants for about 2 weeks after you pasturise it. after that you just put the old cakes in a food processer chop it up, and mix with the poo.
here is a few pics of day 3 of colinazation, im hoping for the pans to be completely white in 7-10 days...

 

[kieahtoka]

Wow, those are gonna give off a LOT of shrooms. Nice shroom btw, wish I could have been successful in my venture. Good luck

 

[KushMaster85]

Beaner I know that one USD bill weighs 1.00gr. It would stand to reason that 100 bills would weigh 100gr. If you are in the US this will work for you.

 

[Beaner]

yeah, see i lost the instructions so i don't even remember what buttons to push to get it to recalibrate, it has only been used a few dozen times, feals wrong to throw it away but it is pretty much useless, and there are a ton of cooler one online.

 

[midgradeindasouth]

Congrats on the caps.

I ate some that were from oregon one time.
They looked very similar to these.
They had small red caps with white spots.

Those damn things were phenominal.
Slam dunk home run all in one.

 

[KushMaster85]

you can usualy find a user manual online. just goggle the model number of your scale. A lot of times the model number is on the front.