Growing WW outdoors that is currently flowering. I've been having issues throughout the whole grow with leaves turning yellow and falling off (barely anything is left under the canopy. I use Fox Farm notes, 1/2 strength. I thought it might be N deficiency so I bumped that up, no help. Then tried a flush also no help. I am out of ideas and am worried it will continue up to the buds. Any advise?
Help! Leaves tellowing and falling off.
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Boatguy
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Probably a ph problem. What did you use as base soil, and are you feeding every watering?
Have you the means to check soil and nutrient ph?
If that is all in check, could be as simple as watering less frequently
i did 1/3 live soil and 2/3 organic(forget which but nothing special) and I water with 6.5ph. I haven't checked the runoff ph in a while though.....
Aussieaceae
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I'd give it some plain neutral water, and cut the fertilizer right back. I think you're just loving it too much.
Next time you want a much larger pot by now, in my opinion. Double the size or more, with plenty of added aeration.
Still isn't too late now if you're really careful. But i don't recommend it if you're new to gardening.
That pot is too small to even worry about the ph, and waste is 100% the wrong way to do it and go by.
If you're not overferting / burning the plants and have ample aeration / drainage, you have nothing to worry about.
Stop worrying about ph. Plain neutral water is good. Stop overferting. Next time transplant to a larger pot, before they flower.
Good luck.
Next time you want a much larger pot by now, in my opinion. Double the size or more, with plenty of added aeration.
Still isn't too late now if you're really careful. But i don't recommend it if you're new to gardening.
That pot is too small to even worry about the ph, and waste is 100% the wrong way to do it and go by.
If you're not overferting / burning the plants and have ample aeration / drainage, you have nothing to worry about.
Stop worrying about ph. Plain neutral water is good. Stop overferting. Next time transplant to a larger pot, before they flower.
Good luck.
Really appreciate the advise. I will admit I use boosted water mostly, much less plain(will try now). Not to contest but I am using a 1 gal fabric pot. I have grown a bigger plant(same seeds) in a way smaller pot successfully. I thought the bigger size and aeration shouldn't be a problem ......I am new but do you think this still is the problem?
Aussieaceae
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No worries at all.
Nah wasn't having a dig at the pot specifically. Just that you'll have a lot less in the way of swings and fluctuations in a larger pot.
Aeration / drainage shouldn't be a real cause for concern in a small pot (generally). It's fluctuations from having to water and feed more often.
Larger pots are more consistent. Besides allowing a larger root ball.
My own initial thoughts were you overfert'd. There might be accumulation in the pot, if you've been watering with fertilizer frequently.
How often are you having to water or feed, so the pot doesn't dry too much?
How many of those waterings / feeds were just plain water with nothing else?
Do you water until waste runoff?
I've been thinking it was low on nitrogen so for the last 2 weeks or so I have been feeding with nutes every time its dry(lifting the pot to see if its light). I was doing alternating with ph balanced water(some with molasses recently) with no progress.
Mrs. Weedstein
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I’d second that opinion. I immediately thought the pot is way too small. If you’ve been able to do it in the past, it may have been a different cultivar that’s more stress resistant.
You’re probably having to water more often to avoid drying out, which leaches nitrogen from the soil, then overcompensating when you fertilize. The plant needs more soil to stabilize. You should repot carefully right away. It’s not very far into flower and will definitely benefit.
Aussieaceae
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As @Mrs. Weedstein and I have suggested, a larger pot will help out a lot.
Otherwise you're going to have to be really on it. There comes a point with a small pot of soil, where it may as well be drain-to-waste hydro.
There's also the plant itself compensating for the small pot space, by drawing nutrient from it's own leaves.
If transplanting isn't an option, I would probably head for an organic based fertilizer. My own go to for that is fish emulsion.
I think you're lacking general organic matter. (soil)
Without transplant I think something like fish emulsion should be able to substitute. Just.
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Kinda looks like a potassium deficiency also. https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/potassium-deficiency