Who should decide if a person gets a vaccination or not ?

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
but you're just so much fun to talk about/with..

i still haven't received my $1200 stimulus (or any $300 check for that matter), so I'll believe it when i see it.

Trumpy* is not injecting me with anything, though.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/22/gao-irs-stimulus-payment-estimates/
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With Election Day looming, it’s unlikely that our deeply polarized Congress will agree on a second stimulus payment any time soon.
So this means every effort should be made to get the first payments to eligible Americans who never received their money, many of whom are struggling to make ends meet during the pandemic.

Didn’t get your stimulus payment? Here’s how to find it.

People who don’t normally file a tax return have until Oct. 15 to use the non-filers tool at irs.gov if they want to get up to $1,200 in aid for individuals and $2,400 for married couples by the end of the year.

Many might also be entitled to an additional $500 payment for each dependent child who was under 17 at the end of 2019. You don’t need earned income or a job to qualify for a stimulus payment, also known as an Economic Impact Payment (EIP).

In a newly released report, the Government Accountability Office recommends that the Treasury Department and the IRS do more to help track down an estimated 8.7 million people who are eligible but have not yet filed for an EIP. The information could be used to help community organizations get the word out about how to get the payments.

GAO report on what Treasury, IRS can do about Americans who didn’t get a stimulus payment

In April, Treasury estimated that 30 million individuals who do not normally file a tax return — referred to as non-filers — were eligible for an EIP. After accounting for millions of federal beneficiaries and individuals who do not normally file a tax return and for whom no data was available, the agencies arrived at the figure of nearly 9 million for people possibly entitled to stimulus payments.

Perhaps that is a good estimate, but there’s been some uncertainty surrounding that number,” James McTigue, GAO director of strategic issues, said in an interview.

The GAO report was critical of Treasury and the IRS for not updating their April estimate. Failing to do so “could hinder outreach efforts and place potentially millions of individuals at risk of missing their payment,” the report said. “An updated and refined estimate of individuals who have yet to receive their EIP from Treasury or IRS could provide greater clarity about which populations may be at risk of missing out on the payment.”

In response to the GAO report, the IRS issued a statement arguing that the agencies have been focused on making payments as quickly as possible.
“Instead of re-estimating this number, IRS and Treasury have prioritized focusing on getting actionable information to assist individuals who may be eligible for an EIP to claim one,” the statement said.

There have been a lot of stumbles getting payments to the people who need the money the most. Many parents receiving federal benefits, such as Social Security Disability or Supplemental Security Income (SSI), complained that the IRS failed to include the extra $500 promised for each dependent child under 17.

After the IRS set short deadlines for parents to request the missing stimulus money, the agency reversed itself because of mounting criticism. A new deadline for this group of federal beneficiaries to use the non-filers tool was set for Sept. 30.

IRS letter to 9 million non-filers

Most recently, the IRS announced that it is mailing letters to the estimated 9 million Americans who have not yet gone online to determine whether they’re eligible for a stimulus payment. The agency recently published a state-by-state breakdown of the mailings.

The IRS said the letters are being mailed to people who haven’t filed a federal return for 2018 or 2019. The agency was able to identify the recipients by looking at W-2s, 1099s and other third-party statements.

The EIP is actually an advance credit for 2020. Under the $2 trillion Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (Cares) Act, stimulus payments must be made by Dec. 31. If people don’t receive the money by year’s end, they still have an opportunity to get the stimulus funds. To do so, they have to file a 2020 federal return in 2021.

People not required to file a 2019 federal income tax return need to go to irs.gov to use the non-filers tool. You’ll get a faster payment by direct deposit if you include banking information. For those who don’t provide bank account information, the IRS will mail a check. As of July 31, 5.3 million individuals had used the online “non-filers tool” to receive their money.

If you were required to file a 2019 federal income tax return but haven’t done so, file immediately if you want a chance to get your payment before the end of the year. If you’ve already filed a 2019 tax return, you can check the status of your EIP by visiting “Get My Payment” at irs.gov.

There is no reason for people who are eligible for a stimulus payment to go without, so act quickly to make sure you are not leaving money on the table.
 

carlsbarn

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Obviously it should and will be up to the individual wether or not to be vaccinated.

However in a free world (this is what you desire, right?) society is also free to construct rules which you may choose to abide by hence gaining the privileges associated with conformity.

Yes, I understand the word "conformity" likely triggered you but that's the facts. You are more than free to live on your own accord away from society and do anything your heart desires up to the point of abuse of another. But if you want the comforts of society you enjoin yourself to the social construct and must make some concessions.

This is really quite simple. I don't like wearing pants in the summer but I love the burritos at the food truck...so I will set aside my disdain for clothing and sacrifice my code for the privilege of attaining burritos without hindrance.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Obviously it should and will be up to the individual wether or not to be vaccinated.

However in a free world (this is what you desire, right?) society is also free to construct rules which you may choose to abide by hence gaining the privileges associated with conformity.

Yes, I understand the word "conformity" likely triggered you but that's the facts. You are more than free to live on your own accord away from society and do anything your heart desires up to the point of abuse of another. But if you want the comforts of society you enjoin yourself to the social construct and must make some concessions.

This is really quite simple. I don't like wearing pants in the summer but I love the burritos at the food truck...so I will set aside my disdain for clothing and sacrifice my code for the privilege of attaining burritos without hindrance.
Thanks for weighing in, I agree the individual should decide whether or not to be vaccinated.

Careful what you wish for following "societal norms" though. They sometimes feature superstition rather than reason.

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