Shitty Clones, Not growing..Could use help..

NeWcS

NeWcS

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So long story short..
Spent $120 for some 'elite' cuts. They died..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. Dude took my $ and ran..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. They are still alive(almost 5 weeks later) but not doing shit. They took around 2 weeks to root.

Once they rooted I planted them in Solo cups of coco. This is how I do all my plants. Root in cubes, then into solo cups, then into a #1 of coco then into a #5 or #7 of coco. Many, many years doing it this way.
I normally wouldn't give a shit but as you can see I have way too much $ invested to give up on them now. Like I normally do, I feed them full strength nuts from my veg res. But being that this issue has a raised I have switched to just RO water for the time being.

Any help would be great. Maybe a foliar feeding?

I'll take any input(on the issue, not the $ lol. I don't wanna hear it. I'm embarrassed enough)
 
buyyouabeer

buyyouabeer

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If you were just using RO water they need some Ca ASAP. I would apply a good dose of CalMag with every watering for a while.
 
NeWcS

NeWcS

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Here's some pics. The last pic is of a cut I took the day I got these other cuts of another strain I had on hand. As you can see, night and day..

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NeWcS

NeWcS

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buyyouabeer said:
If you were just using RO water they need some Ca ASAP. I would apply a good dose of CalMag with every watering for a while.
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I only went with RO for the last feed. Like I said I was trying to get the coco back to a low'er ppm. I'll slowly work my way up. Unless someone thinking otherwise..
 
myke

myke

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Feed me,Coco is meant for high fertigation rates.Maintain 90-100% water saturation.Twice even 3 times a day feed once there rooted well in those cups.
 
myke

myke

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You’ll also be much farther ahead by going with just 2-3 gallon pots. Feed twice a day. Easy pezzey and no problems.
 
NeWcS

NeWcS

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myke said:
Others have posted this it’s a good read https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/ectargets/
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Thanks! I have been growing in coco for many many years. I just need help with these clones. I don't think the issue is the coco but something with the root zone/system(which could be from the coco I guess). But as you can see from the last pic; this was taken at the same time. And no real issues. I am starting to think they never recovered from the shock of shipping!? Again, IDK.
 
Chemdog1989

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Is the root zone to wet. are the roots getting enough oxygen. One of those cups looks really wet.
try using a Mycorrhizal bacteria product. I know my roots love that shit. Fingers crossed
 
Dontjudgeme

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NeWcS said:
So long story short..
Spent $120 for some 'elite' cuts. They died..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. Dude took my $ and ran..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. They are still alive(almost 5 weeks later) but not doing shit. They took around 2 weeks to root.

Once they rooted I planted them in Solo cups of coco. This is how I do all my plants. Root in cubes, then into solo cups, then into a #1 of coco then into a #5 or #7 of coco. Many, many years doing it this way.
I normally wouldn't give a shit but as you can see I have way too much $ invested to give up on them now. Like I normally do, I feed them full strength nuts from my veg res. But being that this issue has a raised I have switched to just RO water for the time being.

Any help would be great. Maybe a foliar feeding?

I'll take any input(on the issue, not the $ lol. I don't wanna hear it. I'm embarrassed enough)
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Didn’t see any mention of temp or humidity. I know you said you’ve done this many times before. But rooting anything has given me 100% success as long as my temp and humidity are in check.
 
NeWcS

NeWcS

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Chemdog1989 said:
Is the root zone to wet. are the roots getting enough oxygen. One of those cups looks really wet.
try using a Mycorrhizal bacteria product. I know my roots love that shit. Fingers crossed
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They are pretty wet. Cause I flushed them with plain water a couple days ago. I am going to let the tops dry out and feed via a bottom feed.

Maybe I'll get some Photosynthesis Plus. What do you like?

*edit. I do dose my reserviors with BTI and Baciulls D747. So they do get some 'bennies'.
 
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NeWcS

NeWcS

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Dontjudgeme said:
Didn’t see any mention of temp or humidity. I know you said you’ve done this many times before. But rooting anything has given me 100% success as long as my temp and humidity are in check.
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That all seems inline. Like I said I took cuts the same day and treated the same as these ones. I will say they didn't root for shit. 2 of them had a tip of root poking out. This is the point I put them in coco. Like you, I too have close to 100% clone rate in .~8-9 days normally. 4 days in a cloner is my 'record'. But that was in an EZ clone. :)
 
NeWcS

NeWcS

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Chemdog1989 said:
Is the root zone to wet. are the roots getting enough oxygen. One of those cups looks really wet.
try using a Mycorrhizal bacteria product. I know my roots love that shit. Fingers crossed
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ps; Is Mycorrhizal a bacteria or a fungi?
 
Wastei

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NeWcS said:
ps; Is Mycorrhizal a bacteria or a fungi?
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Fungi. One can't grow without the other. Bacteria regulates the growth of the rhizome and they show symbiotic effect with each other.

OT: I would suggest to never clone in Coco without buffering with bloom nutes. Give them Kelp/humic mix in the feed water and as foliar to promote root growth. Best of luck!
 
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Chemdog1989

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A lite foliar feed probably wouldn't hurt. help them get some extra food.
I like to let my clones dry out a lil after the first 3 days, I take off the humidy some and let them dry out a lil so they have to search for more food and water.
 
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