Chitosan Oligosaccharide dosage?

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Twerkle

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I found some chitosan oligosaccharide sellers on eBay and was going to buy some to run in my DWC. Does anyone run it and at what dosage? Do you run it with fulvic or humic acid?
 
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Twerkle

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boertje said:
between 200-800 ppm is common practice. I run it with Canna cogr wich contains both fulvic and humic acids
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Is 200-800 including the chelator (humic/fulvic)?

I've seen 50ppm, .5g/gallon, 1g/5gallons. Now i got to add 200-800pp, to the list :)

Where do you get yours from? The few sellers I've found look so scammy.
 
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Twerkle

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Thanks, I'll probably go with eBay since it ships from the US. I'll post back and let you know how it goes. I wonder what BudFactor X ppm is?
 
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How Does Chitosan Help Cloning Plant Cuttings?

Since the cuttings have no roots they have a harder time getting water.

Research has shown that plants given a foliar spray of Chitosan Oligosaccharide need up to 46% less water.

Dosage (Optimal concentration ranging from 50-2000 ppm)

We suggest starting with 200 then switch to 800 ppm after testing.

*Naturally Safe & Biologically Decomposable

*Extremely high absorption rate (over 80%), while all other forms of chitosan will not dissolved in water

*Superior defense against pests and disease, drought and more

*Proven Effective and Reliable for all Crops, Vegetables, Fruits & Flowers.
 
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a_dab'll_do_ya

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What did you come up with for DWC Chitosan dosage. I am looking for a starting point for a 10 gallon reservoir for NFT.


Twerkle said:
I found some chitosan oligosaccharide sellers on eBay and was going to buy some to run in my DWC. Does anyone run it and at what dosage? Do you run it with fulvic or humic acid?
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waterproof808

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a_dab'll_do_ya said:
What did you come up with for DWC Chitosan dosage. I am looking for a starting point for a 10 gallon reservoir for NFT.
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You have to do math as it will not register on a EC Meter. I believe 1/2 - 1 gram per gallon of Chito will give you ~100-200ppm.
Best used as a foliar and in mid-flower after the majority of flower bulking is done.
 
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Bumping up an old thread.

Just snagged a couple kg's of Chitosan Oligosaccharide..

I understand that it's the main ingredient in Bud Factor X... which I do find works well in flower.

Anyone using this? From what I've read 1/2gram per gallon is about right. Anyone have a dosage rate they use?
 
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Rurumo

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DrKiz said:
Bumping up an old thread.

Just snagged a couple kg's of Chitosan Oligosaccharide..

I understand that it's the main ingredient in Bud Factor X... which I do find works well in flower.

Anyone using this? From what I've read 1/2gram per gallon is about right. Anyone have a dosage rate they use?
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This thread has some interesting discussion on dosage, takes a while to get through though. People seem to be using 200-500 ppm and I'd like to know of anyone with firsthand experience using the higher range. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=251272. A couple KG should last you a minute!! Fyi, chitosan is great for people with kidney disease. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9255718/ It's fascinating stuff.
 
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Rurumo said:
This thread has some interesting discussion on dosage, takes a while to get through though. People seem to be using 200-500 ppm and I'd like to know of anyone with firsthand experience using the higher range. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=251272. A couple KG should last you a minute!! Fyi, chitosan is great for people with kidney disease. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9255718/ It's fascinating stuff.
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Thanks man, I'll check that thread out! Bud Factor X is $90 a bottle here in Canada, half a bottle to fill a res (twice a week).... no thanks!

From my calculations to get proper ppm that's about 25 grams of Chitosan. So like $3. Just need some Harpin Protien and Aspirin to complete Bud Factor's formula.

No way I'm spending $90 a week on BFX, it doesn't make that much of a difference. For $10 a week instead on the raw ingredients.. that I can work with.
 
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Rurumo

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DrKiz said:
Thanks man, I'll check that thread out! Bud Factor X is $90 a bottle here in Canada, half a bottle to fill a res (twice a week).... no thanks!

From my calculations to get proper ppm that's about 25 grams of Chitosan. So like $3. Just need some Harpin Protien and Aspirin to complete Bud Factor's formula.

No way I'm spending $90 a week on BFX, it doesn't make that much of a difference. For $10 a week instead on the raw ingredients.. that I can work with.
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I've used chitosan and aspirin for years, but I'd never heard of the harpin protein until I started reading these forums and saw all the discussion about Bud Factor X. I would never spend that much for a product either, but I admit, the salicylic acid/chitosan combo is smart. I'm curious about harpin protein now, I'll have to do some research.
 
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DrKiz

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Rurumo said:
I've used chitosan and aspirin for years, but I'd never heard of the harpin protein until I started reading these forums and saw all the discussion about Bud Factor X. I would never spend that much for a product either, but I admit, the salicylic acid/chitosan combo is smart. I'm curious about harpin protein now, I'll have to do some research.
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Harpin protien can be bought off alibaba from the same places you can get Chitosan Oligosaccharide. I used Dora for the Chitosan. 2.5KG was $220 USD delivered to Canada. I ordered 2kg, they threw in free 0.5 kg.
 
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Psyphish

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I used a product called "Halo foliar plant feed" that has Harpin protein as main ingredient for a few grows, can't say I noticed a damn difference lol.
 
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DrKiz

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Rurumo said:
I've used chitosan and aspirin for years, but I'd never heard of the harpin protein until I started reading these forums and saw all the discussion about Bud Factor X. I would never spend that much for a product either, but I admit, the salicylic acid/chitosan combo is smart. I'm curious about harpin protein now, I'll have to do some research.
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When do you throw in the Chitosan and aspirin? Love to hear you elaborate.

Ever hear of Triacantonol EP 1.5%? It's water soluble Tria. I got some from China as well. I was told one gram per gallon. Another thing to research....
 
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Rurumo

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DrKiz said:
When do you throw in the Chitosan and aspirin? Love to hear you elaborate.

Ever hear of Triacantonol EP 1.5%? It's water soluble Tria. I got some from China as well. I was told one gram per gallon. Another thing to research....
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I always use alfalfa in both my indoor and outdoor gardens-After all my tomatoes are harvested in the fall, I buy 50 lb bags of alfalfa pellets for horses and spread them over my beds and till them in a bit, just enough so the deer don't eat it all. Alfalfa is probably the single best thing you can add to any garden-indoors I've used triacontonol products, but mostly now I just use alfalfa in weekly aerated compost teas. It works! I've been using a lot of Aloe Vera juice both in soil drenches and in my foliars, and the results are incredible-I'm not even sure I need to dose with aspirin water anymore, but I'll usually water with aspirin water in mid veg and early flower. Outdoors I love using crab meal, but indoors I've both purchased the ebay Chitosan and mixed it, and I've used the Hight Tide product-I have the ppm info from that manufacturer written down someplace. Chitosan is amazing though, both in the soil and used as a foliar. I use various biofungicides, kelp, neem, silica, etc, in weekly foliars depending on what I feel they need, and I give Chitosan weekly from early veg to right when I cut off all foliars in Flower-I haven't gotten any botrytis since I've sprayed my plants like this with Chitosan and Southern Ag Biological Fungicide. I'm not sure if you've seen this thread, it's long, but these guys experimented a lot with the ppm for chitosan. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=251272
 
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Rurumo

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I just wanted to add one thing, my original goal was to experiment with systemic acquired resistance and induced systemic resistance because for a time, I had major issues with various fungal infections, powdery mildew, and the dreaded bud rot (in cannabis and in my beloved tomato garden). But then I realized how much healthier in general my plants were, all the way through flower-including much frostier buds. I've found chitosan, salicylic acid, and plant growth promoting rhizobacteria to be a good combination, and work through different pathways to achieve the same goal-i've notice better effects using all three, rather than just one, I mean. This abstract is a good quick read for people new to this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23100680/
 
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Rurumo

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Here is an interesting paper summarizing many of the recent studies involving Chitosan. I'm particularly interested in the "post harvest" treatment of grapes to prevent botrytis. I don't like to get my buds wet, but I do know some people who "wash" their buds prior to drying so I wonder if washing them in a dilute chitosan solution might be something worth trying, if bud rot is a concern. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6414918/
 
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