Diesel0889
Well-Known Member
Damn, you remember!!! Thinking that it was K was a total newb mistake. I got my first soil test from Logan Labs and it was very difficult to read the test, so I sent it to some garden lady for a recommendation and she helped me shit the bed(Bad advice). The real problem was that my phosphorus was 15x too high and it was locking out micros like iron.
GreaseMonkeyMann is the one that took me under his wing. Phattabe, DonTesla, Hyroot, and a few others are badly missed!!!
Nothing was given to me. I am 100% self taught and the minute that someone like Hyroot led me in the right direction, they would disappear from the website. I had Wetdog and Wakatoo ridiculing me for soil testing during my darkest hour and I was ready to give up. GreaseMonkeyMann insisted that soil testing was bogus and he stopped talking to me shortly after I started testing. Now, I got people like @NewGrower2011 that will only take half of my advice and ignore me like I'm a doof.
I'm trying to go commercial now. I made a few posts about my worm farm and all of a sudden, my produce sources dried up. I don't know if it's a coincidence or if I really shot myself in the foot. It just seems like when I help people, it does the opposite of helping me. I'm 100% disabled and NOBODY helps me out of the goodness of their heart. I gotta take my disabled ass out and do manual labor to get ahead. It just seems like when it's time for someone to help me, there is nobody around. Then, I get ridiculed for withholding. I suppose that I could just drop myself from this website like the others have done. Even after I help people, they usually give me the cold shoulder afterwards. It's a big reason why I don't feel like this is a real community. Everyone is just out for themselves. I'm trying to make a living at this. How many other occupations give out their trade secrets(to people that don't even fucking like him). It would be different if someone was actually happy to see me around here. Instead, I get guilt trips. Why doesn't anyone else read a fucking book? My favorite author right now is Dr Steven Solomon and the subject is soil remineralization. I just don't think that people are motivated enough to do work themselves and they want to be spoon fed. "What's wrong with my plant, will you come and fix it for me while I just watch".
I started growing in Oklahoma back in 2011 and I was looking at a life sentence for growing pot in my garage and I grew that way for about 8yrs. I kept asking my friends to get in on it and help my disabled ass, but they were too scared or something. Now, the same friends(if you want to call them that) want me to be their personal coach and work for free. It's just a recurring cycle to where people treat me like a dick and expect that I give my time and knowledge for free.
@NewGrower2011 I would have talked you through your problem, but you don't even talk to me anymore. The test results you got are very similar to the tests that I've had in the past and you are making the same mistake that I did. I just don't feel like I should give out game changing info to someone who doesn't respect me. You did right by getting the Soil Savvy test, but you didn't look at the ENTIRE test, only the N-P-K. You need to look at the micronutrients my man. I know that you have seen me post about manganese multiple times, but maybe you don't understand how important it is(Wetdog and Wakatoo sure didn't). Cannabis is manganese sensitive(according to Dr. Steve Solomon), meaning that a Mn def is detrimental and you will have crop failure(30% or less harvest). Zinc is the 2nd problem. It's hard to find a source of Mn and Zn. If you are ready to listen, we can do this. You gotta stop giving me the cold shoulder too.
Sorry @Diesel0889 I have this problem of talking too much when I first meet someone, but I feel like I chased you off too. I'm just a crazy guy living in the woods, but I'm harmless. I know that I was talking too much, but I still think that it would be a very good idea to get a Soil Savvy test done. It's only $30, but I feel bad for telling to spend money. It's totally worth it though and all of the professionals will suggest that you do it. I'm not connected to the company in any way, I just feel that the Mehlich 3/Saturated Paste test is outdated and over priced($100 for both). The Soil Savvy test will show you what is being locked out and I can promise you that you will be low in manganese, especially if you are just using that BAS rock dust kit. I just looked a previous post and it looks like you are using Big 6. I wrote an entire post about this specific problem. Who knows, maybe you found a perfect amount to add but I don't add it to living plants anymore. I was talking about chelates and how everybody says to "Chelate your micronutrients" but nobody ever talks about chelating manganese specifically. I have this article that says that adding chelated manganese might actually increase the deficiency. If that statement is true, then Big 6 is a failed product. You don't want to add Big 6 to a Mn def plant's soil because you will increase the iron availability, which in return will lower the Mn availability because they are antagonistic towards each other. Maybe you guys just got lucky with TM-7/Big 6 and had more success than I did with the products, but I never successfully added it to living plants to fix a Mn def problem. It would only increase the problem. It took me about two years of wrestling with this problem to figure out what was happening. I read books and never had this specific problem explained and I felt like giving up during that 2yr span, so this info is dear to me. Look at the 2nd page where it is talking about adding chelated Mn to fix a Mn def, it was a mind blower for me!
@Diesel0889 If you get a Soil Savvy test and you don't have micronutrient problems, I will give you $30, bow down and slob your knob, say that you're the greatest on RIU, and start asking you how you got your phosphorus within the normal range while being able to keep your micronutrients in balance. I mean, I got close myself, but I still haven't figured it out 100%. I would appreciate if you did get a soil test so that you can be on the same page as me and @NewGrower2011
@NewGrower2011 I'm sorry about my above statement and I hope that we can work together. I want to come on this forum and feel like a community. I know that I'm not a very warm person, but I would like to be. I go to VA counseling for anger management and I know that I'm gruff at times, but I'm a combat veteran that caught IED's during my deployment. I'm not disfigured or mangled, but I was a gunner on a humvee and I was knocked unconscious by a bomb and have been diagnosed with Traumatic Brain Injury(TBI). I blame my attitude on this.
No reason to be scared off here. Its all good info regaurdless of my/your experiences etc. This is after all what forums like this are here for. Share love for our favorite plant! Nor have you ever been a dick to me.
Bottom line is we both have good experience in organic soil. I never argue just share input on my experience and somtimes I see ridiculous shit posted and try to save new growers time and frustration. There is alot of 3 grow pros online. We all have to learn, be humble no matter how well we do. I have nothing but good conversations with you and don't take anything you say wrong. I am however very busy and can't always hop online lol.
Happy growing my freinds!