jonnynobody
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Remove the power cord carefully from your neoprene insert and net cup. Easy goes it.
Geyapex High PPFD Full Spectrum 400w Cree COB LED Journal
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Remove the power cord carefully from your neoprene insert and net cup. Easy goes it.
jonnynobody
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Note: the 2 red nozzles in the center were pointed up in these photos. Both have been pointed down. Running for 30 minutes. No leaks. I can actually lift the lid without water splashing out. Perfect
I noticed after doing everything I left the black tape on which was a prior attempt to solve the leak problem before I realized the nozzles were positioned with the wrong spray trajectory. I will remove the tape after these clones are done. Looks a little jank. Don't judge me jonnynobody
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And finally - The ladies enjoying their new manifold and COB lighting:
I will let the clones root for another 7 days. Start with strong roots and you start with strong plants. I recommend not transferring out of your cloner until you see a large swath of roots. Just a few doesn't get the job done. Think of roots like titties. The more the better
I will let the clones root for another 7 days. Start with strong roots and you start with strong plants. I recommend not transferring out of your cloner until you see a large swath of roots. Just a few doesn't get the job done. Think of roots like titties. The more the better
jonnynobody
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I stripped down all lower foliage on each clone and pushed the stem all the way down as far as I could into the water. There is a problem with the pictures above. There is far too much foliage on the clones. The goal here is to grow strong roots. Not strong foliage. The more stem exposed to water the more roots the stem will grow. I'm looking forward to seeing the results. I had a couple casualties to the cause in the course of pushing stems down. The stems on the haze are so rigid that even with a gentle push down into the clone collar the stems snapped. Which is a perfect example on why you always take more clone cuttings than you need. Why? Because shit happens
I really had the wrong approach to cutting and cultivating clones and this is my effort to correct those poor habits. When I transplant them into 1 gallon containers I will bury them all the way to the small canopy of foliage I left at the top of the clone. If my experiment works the entire stem should be bursting with roots all the way up to the small canopy of foliage I left at the top of the clone. The result? A very strong root structure encompassing a 12" stem with a very small amount of foliage at the top of the cutting. All those roots I cultivated should rapidly accelerate the growth of each clone and serve as a strong foundation for the plant's structure for the remainder of their life cycle. Strong roots = strong plants. Presently almost every clone has a nice swath of roots. I'll let them cook another 7 days in the clone tote allowing the roots to double in mass on each clone as they generate new foliage before transplanting into 1 gallon hempy buckets in 100% #4 chunky perlite. I will show off the roots before the transplant to see how effective my experiment does (or doesn't) turn out. I'm expecting some stellar results
Trimmed down and pushed down:
The casualties: (had nice roots too)
The Blue Dream:
I really had the wrong approach to cutting and cultivating clones and this is my effort to correct those poor habits. When I transplant them into 1 gallon containers I will bury them all the way to the small canopy of foliage I left at the top of the clone. If my experiment works the entire stem should be bursting with roots all the way up to the small canopy of foliage I left at the top of the clone. The result? A very strong root structure encompassing a 12" stem with a very small amount of foliage at the top of the cutting. All those roots I cultivated should rapidly accelerate the growth of each clone and serve as a strong foundation for the plant's structure for the remainder of their life cycle. Strong roots = strong plants. Presently almost every clone has a nice swath of roots. I'll let them cook another 7 days in the clone tote allowing the roots to double in mass on each clone as they generate new foliage before transplanting into 1 gallon hempy buckets in 100% #4 chunky perlite. I will show off the roots before the transplant to see how effective my experiment does (or doesn't) turn out. I'm expecting some stellar results
Trimmed down and pushed down:
The casualties: (had nice roots too)
The Blue Dream:
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jonnynobody
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I like your manifold dude. Wait, that sounded a little weirdI have the nozzles pointing up on my DIY cloner and had some leaking issues but a line of marine sealer around the edges of the lid fixed it.
Nice detailed thread! DIY FTW
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Sweet clone tote. That's better. Nice pointer on the marine sealant. How long do you like to keep yours in there for? I'm experimenting with a longer amount of time that I leave them inside the clone tote. I figure it's basically DWC, and that's the fastest form of growing system I'm aware of. Let them get a nice hairy swath of roots and then knock out the transplant. At least that's my game plan 
NukaKola
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Like 3-4 weeks because I’m lazy and have to wait on the flower room anyways. I like using rapid rooters too, they are a bit easier planting since there isn’t long strings or roots that can get all tangled up in the cloner. Don’t have to do any sterilization between batches either. Aero cloners are a bit more cost efficient in the long run though.I like your manifold dude. Wait, that sounded a little weird
jonnynobody
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Wow those are some great looking roots! Whatever you're doing keep doing it. Very nice.
A couple weeks ago I ran a dedicated 15 amp circuit on a GFCI breaker just for the 2 nursery tents. I never actually rewired the lights or fans to run off the new circuit. Today I finally got my shit together and knocked it out. Everything in nursery A and B are now an a dedicated 15 amp GFCI circuit. I ran a 12/3 extension cord into nursery B with a 3 port receptacle on it. Lights are wired directly to the timer on the new circuit for nursery A and B now. Everything looks great with the clones and blue dreams. I hope everyone had a great Halloween!
Nursery A with cleaned up wiring. I'm hoping to replace the T5 with another Geyapex COB unit in the near future:
jonnynobody
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Up-diggity-date:
Everything is looking great. The clones are developing new healthy foliage and roots are building in mass. I plan to transplant the clones into 1 gallon hempy buckets I scored from the dollar tree on Friday. I will transplant 2 clones to a single bucket. The goal is to make each plant a super plant. I've done this for about a year now. Works great for increasing output when it comes time to flower. And the best part is combining 2 plants to a single bucket turns those 2 plants into 1 as fart as plant count goes and staying within legal limits. Good shit
This picture is from nursery A which precedes nursery B in the ventilation system. I added the oil filled radiator heater on setting 1 on high which keeps that tent at a nice 80-82. Nursery B then receives that warm air and maintains a temperature of 77-80. Very nice
Everything is looking great. The clones are developing new healthy foliage and roots are building in mass. I plan to transplant the clones into 1 gallon hempy buckets I scored from the dollar tree on Friday. I will transplant 2 clones to a single bucket. The goal is to make each plant a super plant. I've done this for about a year now. Works great for increasing output when it comes time to flower. And the best part is combining 2 plants to a single bucket turns those 2 plants into 1 as fart as plant count goes and staying within legal limits. Good shit
This picture is from nursery A which precedes nursery B in the ventilation system. I added the oil filled radiator heater on setting 1 on high which keeps that tent at a nice 80-82. Nursery B then receives that warm air and maintains a temperature of 77-80. Very nice
jonnynobody
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Update:
Today was transplant day. I shut down the cloner and transplanted 2 clones to each 1 gallon hempy bucket. I even put 4 of the moonshine haze #1 x ghost train haze #1 in 1 bucket. They grow so lanky with sparse flower sites I think this is a nice way to bulk up low productivity of an otherwise stellar strain. Who likes throwing good clones away anyhow?
Here is a picture of the ladies that are vegging under the COB:
A little heavy duty bondage tie down and topping on the Blue Dream. The rest are all girl scout cookies. A lovely strain I highly recommend.
Today was transplant day. I shut down the cloner and transplanted 2 clones to each 1 gallon hempy bucket. I even put 4 of the moonshine haze #1 x ghost train haze #1 in 1 bucket. They grow so lanky with sparse flower sites I think this is a nice way to bulk up low productivity of an otherwise stellar strain. Who likes throwing good clones away anyhow?
Here is a picture of the ladies that are vegging under the COB:
A little heavy duty bondage tie down and topping on the Blue Dream. The rest are all girl scout cookies. A lovely strain I highly recommend.
jonnynobody
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Update: Today I removed a maui waui from the flower room that had poor access to the canopy I felt was a great candidate for a re-veg. I clipped all of her tops and tied down the branches to form a bush. She'll be flowered in 7 weeks with the others. In the meantime she's going to bush like crazy. Everyone loves bush, right?
Killing it under the COB: (new runt in the middle is a godfather OG from my neighbor I adopted)
Maui waui re-veg:
Maui wai re-veg up close:
Killing it under the COB: (new runt in the middle is a godfather OG from my neighbor I adopted)
Maui waui re-veg:
Maui wai re-veg up close:
jonnynobody
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Update:
All is going great under the COB. I'll let the babies hang out in the 1 gallon containers another 2-3 weeks while the root system develops. Then I'll transplant to 5 gallon containers to finish the veg cycle. They just love the spectrum produced by the COB.
That godfather OG on the right I adopted from my neighbor got some burn after applying the Forbid 4F. Kinda shocking really. None of the others had a problem. She'll snap out of it shortly as she gets use to her new home in her hempy bucket. I expect a rapid turn around in a 4-5 days as she develops new foliage and roots.
All is going great under the COB. I'll let the babies hang out in the 1 gallon containers another 2-3 weeks while the root system develops. Then I'll transplant to 5 gallon containers to finish the veg cycle. They just love the spectrum produced by the COB.
That godfather OG on the right I adopted from my neighbor got some burn after applying the Forbid 4F. Kinda shocking really. None of the others had a problem. She'll snap out of it shortly as she gets use to her new home in her hempy bucket. I expect a rapid turn around in a 4-5 days as she develops new foliage and roots.
jonnynobody
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Update:
Today was a big day. I've been in the garden all day from morning until about half an hour ago. Lights had to be moved, plants had to be trained, plants had to be watered, and holy shit am I tired. I moved the COB light into my 4'x4' nursery along with a blue dream that will be completing a flower cycle under the light to see what kind of bud she an produce. I'm stoked to the tits! I have 2 small vegging clones in there now that were freshly tied down today, but they will be moved out when the blue dream is switched to 12/12 and I activate the bloom switch on the Geyapex light. All is right with the world, and the plants are very happy. I do however wish this stupid heat wave would end. I just rerouted my a/c exhaust to dump into my basement instead of outside, and here we are with dam near 60 degree temperatures today. Global warming is a real bitch. What can ya do? Move further north
Today was a big day. I've been in the garden all day from morning until about half an hour ago. Lights had to be moved, plants had to be trained, plants had to be watered, and holy shit am I tired. I moved the COB light into my 4'x4' nursery along with a blue dream that will be completing a flower cycle under the light to see what kind of bud she an produce. I'm stoked to the tits! I have 2 small vegging clones in there now that were freshly tied down today, but they will be moved out when the blue dream is switched to 12/12 and I activate the bloom switch on the Geyapex light. All is right with the world, and the plants are very happy. I do however wish this stupid heat wave would end. I just rerouted my a/c exhaust to dump into my basement instead of outside, and here we are with dam near 60 degree temperatures today. Global warming is a real bitch. What can ya do? Move further north
jonnynobody
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Update: Heavy leaf strip executed today in an effort to increase flower sites while decreasing unneeded foliage. 7 days from now you won't even be able to tell it was stripped down, and there will be copious amounts of additional flower sites that were not there before the strip was done. I'm working on improving my skills with canopy management, increasing flower sites, and decreasing unnecessary foliage. I have been starting this process in week 1 of flower, however I think it needs to begin in early veg. What I'm noticing is I top a plant with lush foliage, and tons of new flower sites pop out underneath the heavy leaf cover. The result? Poorly developing flower sites due to no light hitting them. The solution? After topping I perform a heavy leaf strip. This way as the plant is spitting out new flower sites they receive optimal light rather than being shaded by a thick heavy canopy of leaves. Leaves will never become a flower, but flower sites will absolutely develop into resinous flowers if they are allowed light access to develop. Clearly you can't just hack every single leaf off of the plant, but you can heavily thin the leaves which will regenerate in 7-10 days along with all of your newly developed flower sites. It's about balance. I'll post pictures 7 days from today to show exactly how quickly these ladies regenerate. I essentially took off nearly every leaf that was potentially going to block the new flower sites the plant will produce over the next 7-10 days. I left all flower sites intact as they were just topped a few days ago. Today was just about clearing the foliage for the emerging new flower sites. I also tied down and staked the branches in a pattern that will create an even bush structure with an even canopy. If you start this process in early veg by the time you enter your flower period you will have a robust canopy that's even with an immense number of flower sites. Perform another leaf strip at week 1 and 3 of flower. Then watch your canopy fill with flower. The goal is to have maximum flower sites while preventing the leaves from impeding their development. This is a problem unique to indoor gardening. Outdoor gardeners have infinite space and light. Indoors we do not have those luxuries. Space and light are both limited and precious. We have to approach our gardening efficiency a little differently than those growing outdoors.
Blue Dream post heavy leaf strip:
The whole party:
Moonshine Haze #1 x Ghost Train Haze #1
Maui Waui:
Blue Dream post heavy leaf strip:
The whole party:
Moonshine Haze #1 x Ghost Train Haze #1
Maui Waui:
GrOwThMoNgeR
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You're making me rethink QBs for COBs
jonnynobody
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Update: Blue dream is responding nicely to some heavy training and topping. I flipped the bloom switch on for 1 day to provide some heat in the tent as temps were dropping into the low 70's. That was a big mistake. I had several spots of burned foliage due to the intensity of the light and it being mounted too close to the plants. I removed the damaged foliage and will not be repeating that again. The plants are too small to be hit with that kind of intensity. Operator error on my part. I need to buy another oil filled radiated heater to stick in there like I have in my other nursery. Winter is here. I'm pretty stoked at this point to see what this light will do when it comes time to flower. It kicks out some serious intensity with both switches activated. For now I'm going to let the blue dream bush out under the COB. In about 4 weeks we will begin the 12/12 flower cycle under the COB with the bloom switch activated.
Cvntcrusher
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Nice man it is lights out but later tonight I will show you how I have mine setup and what I've got going on beneath as well 
Cvntcrusher
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So I am running the hortibloom COB LED along side 4 other lights. 3 QBs and 1 LED
Total wattage is 830W.
I am running 6 plants. 4 photos. 2 autos.
Total wattage is 830W.
I am running 6 plants. 4 photos. 2 autos.
jonnynobody
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Love your setup. Nice and clean. You're going to have a great harvest with that kinda power in there. I'm in hydro currently, but the best tasting smoke I've ever grown was in dirt using synthetic fertilizer. There's something magical about the relationship between the cannabis plant and soil. Seeing your soil plants there just got my wheels turning. I'd really like to recreate that magic and transition away from hydro over the next 2 grow cycles. How was the flavor of your last harvest? And if you don't mind my asking what kind of fertilizer and feed regimen do you use? When I was growing in soil years ago I wasn't doing anything fancy. I used a big bag of fox farm's ocean forest mixed with a big bag of happy frog. I started feeding the general hydrponic's 3 part flora series around week 3 at about 800ppm with floralicious plus. My feed regimen was feed, water, water, feed. The plants were watered about every 2-3 days on average so they only got fed every 6-9 days or so. The rest of the time it was just plain tap water. I always PH adjusted to 6.5 and stopped giving fertilizer 10 days before harvest while providing plain water only. I think the low fertilizer input significantly contributed to the high quality results I was able to harvest and enjoy. Over fertilizing is an epidemic in the world of home cannabis gardening. I've gotten some dispensary flower that tasted so strongly of chemicals that it was nearly unusable. And that's not something anyone is looking for
jonnynobody
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Update: (EDITED - I realized the pictures I posted were from the last update. My new photos transferred to a different location for some reason. FIXED!)
After a heavy defoliation last week the blue dream is recovering nicely. The 2 clones are producing new lush foliage loving the COB. I'm watering the blue dream every 3 days now to make the root system grow. She wasn't drinking enough to justify watering every 2 days and watering too frequently inhibits root development. Today her growth is much more lush and vibrant by skipping the watering cycle yesterday. She'll go 4 days total before receiving water. About 4 weeks away from beginning the 12/12 cycle with blue dream under the COB. Super stoked
After a heavy defoliation last week the blue dream is recovering nicely. The 2 clones are producing new lush foliage loving the COB. I'm watering the blue dream every 3 days now to make the root system grow. She wasn't drinking enough to justify watering every 2 days and watering too frequently inhibits root development. Today her growth is much more lush and vibrant by skipping the watering cycle yesterday. She'll go 4 days total before receiving water. About 4 weeks away from beginning the 12/12 cycle with blue dream under the COB. Super stoked
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