How important is PH of soil and water???

PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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buyyouabeer said:
I grow in soil and use Jack's 321 exclusively; have never checked my pH and do not even own a meter or test strips. Unless you have very poor soil or bad water source this is advice best left to hydro growers.
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Do you buy new soil each grow, or reuse the old soil?
 
Wizzlebiz

Wizzlebiz

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PadawanWarrior said:
I can agree with part of that. He is giving them GH Trio though, and the plant doesn't need microbes for those nutrients to be available to the plants.

Organic nutrients though need the microbes to convert the nutrients into a usable form for the plant.

As for pH mattering in soil. It does matter, but not like it does in Hydro.
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What about GH trio make its exempt from needing microbes or pH balance in soil?

Here is a soil pH nutrient uptake chart. If there is no need for microbes nor being in this spectrum what is delivering the nutrients if the feeds pH is say 8.0?
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Maggs707

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buyyouabeer said:
If that works for you great. I am starting a new adventure in my next grow (finding the perfect buzz LOL as a departed friend liked to say) growing tropical landrace modified NLD types. Have read thousands of old posts from Ace Seed threads here and on icmag, not once have I see anyone speak about pH in their grow tips. Golden Tiger third version, Malawi, Panama and ThaixPanama are on the way.
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You didn't hear about pH'ing in the magazines you read? Come on man. (Biden voice)
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Wizzlebiz said:
What about GH trio make its exempt from needing microbes or pH balance in soil?

Here is a soil pH nutrient uptake chart. If there is no need for microbes nor being in this spectrum what is delivering the nutrients if the feeds pH is say 8.0?
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I love ya Wizzle, but,

GH doesn't need microbes because it's already in a chemical form that the plants can use. Soil or media pH is still important, but his soil already has buffers that should keep it in a good range.

Chemical nutes and organics are totally different.

You should read "Teaming with Microbes". I learned a lot from that.
 
maranibbana

maranibbana

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PadawanWarrior said:
I love ya Wizzle, but,

GH doesn't need microbes because it's already in a chemical form that the plants can use. Soil or media pH is still important, but his soil already has buffers that should keep it in a good range.

Chemical nutes and organics are totally different.

You should read "Teaming with Microbes". I learned a lot from that.
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Interesting, chelated....
Hmmm so in a sense using soil in that manner, is fundamentally similar to other mediums in the feeding watering sense...
I could argue that anything that is not working with Organics or microbes/life is not really Soil haha but I don’t wanna stir that pot
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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buyyouabeer said:
Oh I do not throw it out, wifey uses it for her she shed plants and about the house plants. However she is a major stoner and loves the herb.
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There's nothing wrong with buying fresh soil each time. My best plants were grown with fresh soil actually. I'm learning no-till now, but I still have much to learn.
 
Wizzlebiz

Wizzlebiz

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PadawanWarrior said:
I love ya Wizzle, but,

GH doesn't need microbes because it's already in a chemical form that the plants can use. Soil or media pH is still important, but his soil already has buffers that should keep it in a good range.

Chemical nutes and organics are totally different.

You should read "Teaming with Microbes". I learned a lot from that.
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Thank you for explaining. Il check it out for sure.
 
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