Planning on setting up a 30x40 building

[Smacker]

I have one issue with your plan. I applaud the desire , skill, ability and pocket depth. Dream come true here. I must rain on the parade. You need to grow first. Master that before you possibly fail at a high cost. Start small and expand as your skills do. Just weeds until you bring them indoors. And if you employ help? Don't rely on them until a cycle or two. Just things I've learned. Don't jump until you know how to not hit the bottom thing. Best wishes and grow tips from a home grower if needed. Keeping things in perspective. My wife would kill me.

Thanks for the insight. I completely agree with what you have stated but I’m not wired that way. My wife and I have always went head first into our projects and we have had a successful track record. I know I’m going to make mistakes. I know I’m going to have days that I wonder why the hell I got into this. But that’s all part of owning a business and being dedicated to making it work. And that’s precisely why I’m here absorbing all the knowledge I can before I plant the first seed. As for employees, I’m not planning on having any until I open my retail dispensary and I’m not going to do that until I have my grow operation dialed in.

 

[F80M4]

Naw I agree totally. He either needs to factor hiring a growing or going in on this venture with a grower. But any grower that has experience doing this much volume has money of their own to invest and doesnt need someone who just has money.

People think growing is easy. It is not easy but it is not hard. Anyone can throw money at a show and pray with no experience. Seen it all happen, they dont listen to anyone and ladies go super saiyan. OP needs to like learn the basics first before throwing money, if not throw the money and learn the hard way lol

 

[firsttimeARE]

Also you havent even gotten genetics. Finding a keeper isnt that simple. Not sure the competition or the degree of standard Mississippi has for cannabis.

I wouldnt just start 200 seeds and expect them to all appear and perform the same even with the same strain with the laziness of some breeders today

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Naw I agree totally. He either needs to factor hiring a growing or going in on this venture with a grower. But any grower that has experience doing this much volume has money of their own to invest and doesnt need someone who just has money.

Alright. I hate the realist turned pessimist cliche. None the less, you cannot properly oversee your operation without grow experience. I did read never grown? No? I had to speak up. Money is tight for all of us. Realized or not. I'm done Thank you all for listening. Honesty best outcomes for all always.

 

[firsttimeARE]

People think growing is easy. It is not easy but it is not hard. Anyone can throw money at a show and pray with no experience. Seen it all happen, they dont listen to anyone and ladies go super saiyan. OP needs to like learn the basics first before throwing money, if not throw the money and learn the hard way lol

For sure...i definitely think hes in way over his head. But he wasnt asking that and its his money

 

[Smacker]

Ok subtract $70 per from the $150 for ballast and reflector which leaves $80 for a quality bulb.

I do HVAC and Plumbing for a living. You are going to want drainage.

Im 100% on the cooling needs. Id use dehumidifiers for lights off.

 

[firsttimeARE]

Thanks for the insight. I completely agree with what you have stated but I’m not wired that way. My wife and I have always went head first into our projects and we have had a successful track record. I know I’m going to make mistakes. I know I’m going to have days that I wonder why the hell I got into this. But that’s all part of owning a business and being dedicated to making it work. And that’s precisely why I’m here absorbing all the knowledge I can before I plant the first seed. As for employees, I’m not planning on having any until I open my retail dispensary and I’m not going to do that until I have my grow operation dialed in.

I dont think any of us dont want you to do this. We are just bringing up issues we dont think you are seeing. If i were you I wouldnt run all 32kw. Do a few tables to learn. 32kw even at 10cents a kwh thats $4k each grow in electricity.

Medical has a high degree of standard. Testing of product could be a requirement. These are added costs. Theres a big possibility that your weed is garbage.

Also you need to set aside some floor space for a drying/curing room.

 

[Smacker]

Alright. I hate the realist turned pessimist cliche. None the less, you cannot properly oversee your operation without grow experience. I did read never grown? No? I had to speak up. Money is tight for all of us. Realized or not. I'm done Thank you all for listening. Honesty best outcomes for all always.

I’m sorry I haven’t had any grow experience to build from. But form the days reading everything I can find on the subject, I can’t see where I could fail. At worst I toast a few hundred dollars of seeds and start again. I have owned a health food store and owned/operated two service companies. 40k is nothing in comparison to floor planning a retail store and paying overhead costs. Thanks for your time.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Thanks for the insight. I completely agree with what you have stated but I’m not wired that way. My wife and I have always went head first into our projects and we have had a successful track record. I know I’m going to make mistakes. I know I’m going to have days that I wonder why the hell I got into this. But that’s all part of owning a business and being dedicated to making it work. And that’s precisely why I’m here absorbing all the knowledge I can before I plant the first seed. As for employees, I’m not planning on having any until I open my retail dispensary and I’m not going to do that until I have my grow operation dialed in.

A few decades in a shed. LOL.

I’m sorry I haven’t had any grow experience to build from. But form the days reading everything I can find on the subject, I can’t see where I could fail. At worst I toast a few hundred dollars of seeds and start again. I have owned a health food store and owned/operated two service companies. 40k is nothing in comparison to floor planning a retail store and paying overhead costs. Thanks for your time.

All good and I support you. Just be aware it can all go in a hurry if you don't know what your doing. I know M.B.A.'s who couldn't grow a chia pet with the instructions. It's hands in or forget. You know the risks. You can absorb the hit? More power to you. And may the hit never come. Might get lucky. Many do.

 

[Smacker]

I dont think any of us dont want you to do this. We are just bringing up issues we dont think you are seeing. If i were you I wouldnt run all 32kw. Do a few tables to learn. 32kw even at 10cents a kwh thats $4k each grow in electricity.

Medical has a high degree of standard. Testing of product could be a requirement. These are added costs. Theres a big possibility that your weed is garbage.

Also you need to set aside some floor space for a drying/curing room.

I understand fully the monumentally hurtles I’m facing. I understand that there is a high probability of failure in the learning process but that’s not going to detour me. I’m sure you are correct in starting with let’s say 10 plants and treating each one slightly different to learn how to recognize what the plants want.

 

[ilovereggae]

I have one issue with your plan. I applaud the desire , skill, ability and pocket depth. Dream come true here. I must rain on the parade. You need to grow first. Master that before you possibly fail at a high cost. Start small and expand as your skills do. Just weeds until you bring them indoors. And if you employ help? Don't rely on them until a cycle or two. Just things I've learned. Don't jump until you know how to not hit the bottom thing. Best wishes and grow tips from a home grower if needed. Keeping things in perspective. My wife would kill me.

I kept trying to type this out but kept sounding like a dick. 100% agree though.

I will add one other thing, take it or leave it but I feel it has to be said. This is not directed at you personally but you are also not the first and won't be the last person who sees legalization as their ticket to riches.

You might just see it as a money making opportunity but there are people that rely on this for their medicine both physical and mental.

When people are growing solely for making money, they are more often willing to cut corners and use products that might get more yield, but at the expense of sacrificing someone's health. This is only going to be more true as big corporations get into the game and drive prices lower and it gets harder to make a dollar.

Im not saying there is anything wrong with selling herb and making money off if it. But someone who loves the plant and what it represents is going to be willing to sacrifice quality over quantity.

I think long term having this attitude is going to let you weather rough patches of losing an entire crop to pests or mold (happens to all of us at one point or another), as well as be able to generate a better product that you can charge more for. I also personally think the only business model I would personally invest in is a "farm to table" where u can produce and sell direct to your customers. Otherwise you are going to be selling a commodity that Altria and the big VC companies will control within 3-4 years

Lots of people paved the way for this opportunity to present itself. Theres a lot more to growing 32 lbs of herb than buying lights dirt and seeds.. Please respect that is all I am asking.

 

[Smacker]

A few decades in a shed. LOL.

All good and I support you. Just be aware it can all go in a hurry if you don't know what your doing. I know M.B.A.'s who couldn't grow a chia pet with the instructions. It's hands in or forget. You know the risks. You can absorb the hit? More power to you. And may the hit never come. Might get lucky. Many do.

Thanks brother! I’m going to be ok either way. But this is something that I have always Wanted to do. And I’ve always said when they legalize it I’m in. So now it’s time to make it happen.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

I understand fully the monumentally hurtles I’m facing. I understand that there is a high probability of failure in the learning process but that’s not going to detour me. I’m sure you are correct in starting with let’s say 10 plants and treating each one slightly different to learn how to recognize what the plants want.

Site won't let me post pics for a bit. Been around the block and back. Took about 6 years of dedication before I got it and can enjoy my grows.

20 plants with your space should be a breeze with the right basics.

 

[F80M4]

I understand fully the monumentally hurtles I’m facing. I understand that there is a high probability of failure in the learning process but that’s not going to detour me. I’m sure you are correct in starting with let’s say 10 plants and treating each one slightly different to learn how to recognize what the plants want.

As I said before, Its not hard but its not easy. Dont get me wrong or any of us, We don't want you making a big mistake. Take it slow and go from there.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

I kept trying to type this out but kept sounding like a dick. 100% agree though.

I will add one other thing, take it or leave it but I feel it has to be said. This is not directed at you personally but you are also not the first and won't be the last person who sees legalization as their ticket to riches.

You might just see it as a money making opportunity but there are people that rely on this for their medicine both physical and mental.

When people are growing solely for making money, they are more often willing to cut corners and use products that might get more yield, but at the expense of sacrificing someone's health. This is only going to be more true as big corporations get into the game and drive prices lower and it gets harder to make a dollar.

Im not saying there is anything wrong with selling herb and making money off if it. But someone who loves the plant and what it represents is going to be willing to sacrifice quality over quantity.

I think long term having this attitude is going to let you weather rough patches of losing an entire crop to pests or mold (happens to all of us at one point or another), as well as be able to generate a better product that you can charge more for. I also personally think the only business model I would personally invest in is a "farm to table" where u can produce and sell direct to your customers. Otherwise you are going to be selling a commodity that Altria and the big VC companies will control within 3-4 years

Lots of people paved the way for this opportunity to present itself. Theres a lot more to growing 32 lbs of herb than buying lights dirt and seeds.. Please respect that is all I am asking.

I agree. Plants never reach potential until you're intimate with them. And they speak. It should be a passion. Profit is bad. Why it is still illegal. I don't agree with capitalism. I give all my overages away to med users who can't provide their own. Or in front of dispensaries.

I do support any plant growth by anyone regardless of motive. Better world and abetter person if they "actually" grow them.

 

[Smacker]

I kept trying to type this out but kept sounding like a dick. 100% agree though.

I will add one other thing, take it or leave it but I feel it has to be said. This is not directed at you personally but you are also not the first and won't be the last person who sees legalization as their ticket to riches.

You might just see it as a money making opportunity but there are people that rely on this for their medicine both physical and mental.

When people are growing solely for making money, they are more often willing to cut corners and use products that might get more yield, but at the expense of sacrificing someone's health. This is only going to be more true as big corporations get into the game and drive prices lower and it gets harder to make a dollar.

Im not saying there is anything wrong with selling herb and making money off if it. But someone who loves the plant and what it represents is going to be willing to sacrifice quality over quantity.

I think long term having this attitude is going to let you weather rough patches of losing an entire crop to pests or mold (happens to all of us at one point or another), as well as be able to generate a better product that you can charge more for. I also personally think the only business model I would personally invest in is a "farm to table" where u can produce and sell direct to your customers. Otherwise you are going to be selling a commodity that Altria and the big VC companies will control within 3-4 years

Lots of people paved the way for this opportunity to present itself. Theres a lot more to growing 32 lbs of herb than buying lights dirt and seeds.. Please respect that is all I am asking.

I’m here because of its medical value. My brother was disabled 10 years ago in a work accident (frontal lobe injury, fused spine t5-7, reconstructed face) and after 3 years on pharmaceuticals he began having all kinds of new ailments. Eventually he was told by a local doctor to go find some marijuana. Since he began using it he has reduced his medication to 5 pills a day from 17. He’s completely off opioids and blood pressure medication. So I have every intention of learning to grow the finest product possible. Thanks for information.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

I’m here because of its medical value. My brother was disabled 10 years ago in a work accident (frontal lobe injury, fused spine t5-7, reconstructed face) and after 3 years on pharmaceuticals he began having all kinds of new ailments. Eventually he was told by a local doctor to go find some marijuana. Since he began using it he has reduced his medication to 5 pills a day from 17. He’s completely off opioids and blood pressure medication. So I have every intention of learning to grow the finest product possible. Thanks for information.

Apologies. Just me ranting. It is a passion and my meds. Keeps me going and almost sane. LOL. No knock, Just a point of view. Peace.

 

[Smacker]

As I said before, Its not hard but its not easy. Dont get me wrong or any of us, We don't want you making a big mistake. Take it slow and go from there.

At worst I air condition one of my shops and loose some money. Is that ideal, No! Is that the risk of any new undertaking, absolutely!

 

[ilovereggae]

I’m here because of its medical value. My brother was disabled 10 years ago in a work accident (frontal lobe injury, fused spine t5-7, reconstructed face) and after 3 years on pharmaceuticals he began having all kinds of new ailments. Eventually he was told by a local doctor to go find some marijuana. Since he began using it he has reduced his medication to 5 pills a day from 17. He’s completely off opioids and blood pressure medication. So I have every intention of learning to grow the finest product possible. Thanks for information.

Awesome glad to know you have some motivation to do this the right way I grow for my own use, but started taking it way more serious when my son was diagnosed w Crohns disease. he has had multiple surgeries and deals w chronic pain on a level I can't imagine. Drs have prescribed him Tramadol which is an opioid. For a kid. GTFO.

Best wishes that everything comes together and you have many successful harvests for years to come.

 

[spliffendz]

Yeh start with a 3 x 4 then expand accordingly