How do you drain your runoff?

[Rsawr]

Plus bucket... I was too lazy to buy anything But i only have 5 gallon pots

 

[Doug Dawson]

I know just what you mean. I use 15 gal pots. And instead of perlite, I used pumice and lava rock. Holy shit, lava rock makes it way heavier. I use a handcart when I move them from upstairs to downstairs. There's no way I could carry these by hand. In my room I just slide them around.

Wizzle is a little bigger than me though, lol.

What is the advantage of such huge pots? I am really curious as 15 gallons seems huge. I am 6 foot 3 and 225, the weight doesn't bother me but I am curious about what benefits you get over say a 5 gallon? I know you do soil, is it so you don't have to water as often?

 

[TintEastwood]

Where’d you find that manifold for your waterlines

Amazon. Or the aquarium store.

Big tubed backbone type.

https://www.amazon.com/Pawfly-Aquarium-Chromium-Distributor-Accessories/dp/B073CTVJGJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=aquarium+manifold&qid=1605567166&sprefix=aquarium+man&sr=8-4

 

[Mirrordawn]

I drain it once a week when I do a system change.

Must get tiring doing all that extra shit every day ...

 

[Syyndrome]

Just curious, why such huge pots for an indoor grow? I have grown 1 plant that took up up a 5x5 tent in a 5 gallon fabric pot, why so big?

Have 5 in 10gal fabric in my 5x5 in coco/perlite. Even got a solid 90day veg each (starting in the summer -- vegged longer due to temps). Trained them like mad, and ended up wishing i only had 4. Good problem to have I suppose. The stretch was also insane... Had them go from 22" to 50" even with their extreme training.

Next cycle will be 1x 15gallon pot in my 4x4 and a the rest of my smaller plants in 3-7 gallon pots in my 5x5

 

[MICHI-CAN]

I drain it once a week when I do a system change.

Must get tiring doing all that extra shit every day ...

It gives me an excuse every other day to close the growoom door behind me. Fire one up and avoid domestic issues, wife, for an hour or so.

 

[Mirrordawn]

It gives me an excuse every other day to close the growoom door behind me. Fire one up and avoid domestic issues, wife, for an hour or so.

With all that extra time you waste, could have 2 grow rooms

 

[Doug Dawson]

Have 5 in 10gal fabric in my 5x5 in coco/perlite. Even got a solid 90day veg each (starting in the summer -- vegged longer due to temps). Trained them like mad, and ended up wishing i only had 4. Good problem to have I suppose. The stretch was also insane... Had them go from 22" to 50" even with their extreme training.

Next cycle will be 1x 15gallon pot in my 4x4 and a the rest of my smaller plants in 3-7 gallon pots in my 5x5

That's cool, I am not judging you or Padawan, I know he grows some killer stuff. I am really just curious. I vegged out one plant in a 5x5 and it took up my whole space in a 5 gallon pot. Now in fairness it was supposed to be an auto and it didn't start flowering so I did not do any training but with it getting so big I am curious what I might gain by going to bigger pots.

 

[Doug Dawson]

With all that extra time you waste, could have 2 grow rooms

LOL, yeah but for some of us if we opened those 2 new rooms we could potentially end up housed in a much smaller room with no plants or lights.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

At my age and ambition levels? I'll stick to what I do. 1 grow and any number of houseplants is good. 1 plant easily exceeds legal here. LOL.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

That's cool, I am not judging you or Padawan, I know he grows some killer stuff. I am really just curious. I vegged out one plant in a 5x5 and it took up my whole space in a 5 gallon pot. Now in fairness it was supposed to be an auto and it didn't start flowering so I did not do any training but with it getting so big I am curious what I might gain by going to bigger pots.
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Bigger pots are not needed. Root health is. People need to grow roots properly. Not the green part. The magic happens below ground.

Here's the rootball from a 9'8" Snow Temple. 5 gallons is more than sufficient if you manage the roots.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

What is the advantage of such huge pots? I am really curious as 15 gallons seems huge. I am 6 foot 3 and 225, the weight doesn't bother me but I am curious about what benefits you get over say a 5 gallon? I know you do soil, is it so you don't have to water as often?

You haven't lifted one of my pots, lol. I'm telling you, they're heavy as fuck with the lava rock. It's a bitch going up or down the stairs even with a handcart.

I'm doing no-till, so 15 is really the minimum. I gotta keep the soil alive. It also makes a big difference in how big the plants will get too if you're growing organically. The bigger the pots, the bigger the plants can get. It's also more forgiving to have more soil so the plants have access to all the food they need. Organics take longer to break down, so it helps to have a safety buffer.

I try to keep the soil moist but not wet, so I water a little every couple days. I also have rice hulls as a mulch to help prevent the top from drying out too quickly. The big pots do take a little longer to dry out, but that's not why I do it.

 

[Doug Dawson]

You haven't lifted one of my pots, lol. I'm telling you, they're heavy as fuck with the lava rock. It's a bitch going up or down the stairs even with a handcart.

I'm doing no-till, so 15 is really the minimum. I gotta keep the soil alive. It also makes a big difference in how big the plants will get too if you're growing organically. The bigger the pots, the bigger the plants can get. It's also more forgiving to have more soil so the plants have access to all the food they need. Organics take longer to break down, so it helps to have a safety buffer.

I try to keep the soil moist but not wet, so I water a little every couple days. I also have rice hulls as a mulch to help prevent the top from drying out too quickly. The big pots do take a little longer to dry out, but that's not why I do it.

Thanks man, I appreciate the explanation. As a coco grower I am just not in tune with the nuances of soil so that is great info. Much appreciated.

 

[Syyndrome]

That's cool, I am not judging you or Padawan, I know he grows some killer stuff. I am really just curious. I vegged out one plant in a 5x5 and it took up my whole space in a 5 gallon pot. Now in fairness it was supposed to be an auto and it didn't start flowering so I did not do any training but with it getting so big I am curious what I might gain by going to bigger pots.
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Pics are of the whole flowering family currently, and the blueberry (shortest plant by about 20") in front of tv -- 65" for reference

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Thanks man, I appreciate the explanation. As a coco grower I am just not in tune with the nuances of soil so that is great info. Much appreciated.

And soil with hydro nutes is different than soil with organics. In my case I don't want runoff most of the time. If you're using hydro nutes with soil, you want a little runoff.

I've never grown in coco, but I have a couple bricks and the GH trio to try out someday.

 

[Doug Dawson]

Pics are of the whole flowering family currently, and the blueberry (shortest plant by about 20") in front of tv -- 65" for reference

That looks amazing brother, now I am hungry.

 

[Doug Dawson]

And soil with hydro nutes is different than soil with organics. In my case I don't want runoff most of the time. If you're using hydro nutes with soil, you want a little runoff.

I've never grown in coco, but I have a couple bricks and the GH trio to try out someday.

Thanks bud. I have never grown anything in soil other than vegetables and berries. Next year I will grow some outdoor at the lake to use up some auto seeds but not indoors. I want to learn everything I can about growing in coco before I move on. Still learning to talk plant so I must stay the course. Glad to have folks like you around for some guidance if I do go that way down the road.

 

[Syyndrome]

And soil with hydro nutes is different than soil with organics. In my case I don't want runoff most of the time. If you're using hydro nutes with soil, you want a little runoff.

I've never grown in coco, but I have a couple bricks and the GH trio to try out someday.

Can definitely attest to the need for runoff in coco. If anything my best results have been from coco with lower EC feeding, but higher volume of feed. Second issue I've run into this cycle was due to not getting enough runoff. I'd water 2-3L a day of 1200EC feed, which wouldn't get me noticeable runoff. Started to notice nute about halfway through flower, and noticed that my runoff was WAYYYYYY out to lunch compared to my input. Was putting in feed @ 6.3ph and 1100EC, was getting runoff at like 4-5000EC and 4.5ph (may be the biggest issue , but TBD yet once I find out how many seeds I got from the few nanners I found on the Blueberry plant..). Took about 5 gallons of very week and higher PH feed, to even start to turn the tide on that.

Next grow im thinking i go 3gallons straight coco and feed with more runoff than I was during this run.

 

[themda]

Spend an afternoon in the PVC fittings aisle in a big box store. You will be amazed at the possibilities. And overcome with creativity and brilliance.

thanks for the fluff just share what you did amigo

 

[themda]

Amazon. Or the aquarium store.

Big tubed backbone type.

https://www.amazon.com/Pawfly-Aquarium-Chromium-Distributor-Accessories/dp/B073CTVJGJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=aquarium+manifold&qid=1605567166&sprefix=aquarium+man&sr=8-4

perfect thank you