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TtZoo

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Hi All,

Bit of help and advice needed please.

Here is my More Cowbell that was a mother plant for cuts, hence the funny structure.

The top buds are all cloudy with a few amber, the middle buds (there's more of these than anything else) are cloudy with a few clear and no amber, same with the lower buds that have slightly more clear.

But..... She's at 12 weeks since flip!!

Does this seem like way too long? The leaves started drooping at about 9 weeks and I worried I'd over watered her but I let her dry out fully and they've stayed like that. I haven't flushed yet so will start that now I think.

Do I just need to be patient and leave her longer? I harvested the same cut a while back but way too early and I've got a load of unsmokable larf that is way too racy, hence I've hung on in there with this one.

Any thoughts/advice would be much appreciated.
 

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mindriot

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Hi All,

Bit of help and advice needed please.

Here is my More Cowbell that was a mother plant for cuts, hence the funny structure.

The top buds are all cloudy with a few amber, the middle buds (there's more of these than anything else) are cloudy with a few clear and no amber, same with the lower buds that have slightly more clear.

But..... She's at 12 weeks since flip!!

Does this seem like way too long? The leaves started drooping at about 9 weeks and I worried I'd over watered her but I let her dry out fully and they've stayed like that. I haven't flushed yet so will start that now I think.

Do I just need to be patient and leave her longer? I harvested the same cut a while back but way too early and I've got a load of unsmokable larf that is way too racy, hence I've hung on in there with this one.

Any thoughts/advice would be much appreciated.
Sounds like you just have a long flowering pheno. I would periodically take samples every few days or week and let her go until she looks finished. Then decide when you smoke the test samples if she's worth running the cuts.
 

TtZoo

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Sounds like you just have a long flowering pheno. I would periodically take samples every few days or week and let her go until she looks finished. Then decide when you smoke the test samples if she's worth running the cuts.
Many thanks mindriot, that does make sense. When I started flushing the previous cut (same as this one) at 8 weeks thinking she was a 9 week strain I starved her until she was almost fully dead at 9.5 weeks, hence when harvested she was too racy.

She's on organic (albeit bottled) nutes so whether to flush at all is debatable, I might just water with 15ml/ltr coconut water from now on and see how it goes. Thanks again, I hadn't thought it could be pheno related.
 

2cent

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Leaf curl is due to nitrogen in bloom food id say.
They hook and curl over like this on heavy fed cause they all run N till the end when really u can drop it.
If ya drop it ya dont even need to flush hardly.

Id say long pheno. that wants weaker nute mainly n.
Id drop the base down for 1/4 and add a pk no N run off.

My 2cent
 
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colocowboy

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14 thousandths of a Newton per meter squared..... can I ask how that discussion got so badly fragmented? Do you suppose that weight that is significantly less than the weight of a pubic hair has any relevance to growing herbs? I’m open to deviated conversation but......

I had a dream of hollyweed that bodhiguide posted yesterday in ig, I think it was even from @AdvancedBuffalo. Man it just looked like a perfect specimen. Maybe it was his peach hashplant. Either way @AdvancedBuffalo, wtf dude you’re making pics that are invading my consciousness. I also can’t get over your dislike of the hp. Was that peach hp not up to snuff either?
Been having a reoccurring nightmare that all my best smoke lost all its flavor in the jar. All my jars smell like hay or mold. I think I’m cracking up!
 

TtZoo

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Leaf curl is due to nitrogen in bloom food id say.
They hook and curl over like this on heavy fed cause they all run N till the end when really u can drop it.
If ya drop it ya dont even need to flush hardly.

Id say long pheno. that wants weaker nute mainly n.
Id drop the base down for 1/4 and add a pk no N run off.

My 2cent
Thanks 2cent, that helps a lot.
 

TWest65

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14 thousandths of a Newton per meter squared..... can I ask how that discussion got so badly fragmented? Do you suppose that weight that is significantly less than the weight of a pubic hair has any relevance to growing herbs? I’m open to deviated conversation but......
@800lbGuerrilla mentioned that he read somewhere that the higher THCV levels in high altitude plants might be caused by higher UV levels. As food for thought and off the top of my head, I mentioned some other parameters that change with altitude, gravity being one of them. No, I highly doubt that the minute difference in gravity makes any difference whatsoever to the THCV levels. As I said, it was for for thought.
 

800lbGuerrilla

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@800lbGuerrilla mentioned that he read somewhere that the higher THCV levels in high altitude plants might be caused by higher UV levels. As food for thought and off the top of my head, I mentioned some other parameters that change with altitude, gravity being one of them. No, I highly doubt that the minute difference in gravity makes any difference whatsoever to the THCV levels. As I said, it was for for thought.
lol i'm probably misquoting somebody that was talking out of his ass on the internet in the first place. I think we're all pretty much in agreement that the sun is a pretty fuckin cool light source, however it might affect cell growth.

I love when stoners talk physics, because however derailed the conversation might get, however educational or woefully uninformed it might be, it always gets going because a group of people are just really passionate about wondering what makes shit work.
 

MICHI-CAN

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If you didnt know, those preflowers your girl has can get get fertilized. I will sometimes hit my pre-flowering/vegging mother with pollen without actually flowering it. Those will develop into full seeds with no problems.
Thank you. First for that display here. Either seed pods or none. The seeds are definitely viable. What are the odds of them being fem is my question. Not into genetics until recently. Info is truly appreciated and being absorbed. Learn as you grow program.

Best wishes all.
 

raggyb

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I am not mistaken, gravity is 9.8 meters/sec/sec at all places with the atmosphere. I don't think altitude matters.............
that's an estimate. it's inverse to the square of the distance between the plant and the center of earth, in the case you are on earth haha. so would be interesting to see if plants in space with zero gravity but a light always over their head have trouble with their roots growing in the opposite direction of the light. I bet they did that shit on the space shuttle but should have with some Bodhi haha. Yeah thats insignificant in and of itself on top of a mountain, but gravity is the reason pressure, temps and atmosphere changes at altitude so whatever i'm rambling give me some weed...
 

raggyb

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Time is also slower at higher gravity so the higher elevation plants will grow “faster”.

SCIENCE!

lol
that's a relativistic effect of gravity. extremely insignificant on earth. but pressure is a significant effect to us. the reason there is ~no pressure in space is that there is ~no gravity there. there is significantly less pressure with fairly small altitude increases, all other things being equal, and that is gravity's effect. but if a plant was traveling close to the speed of light...
 

SFnone

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A little late to the conversation, but there has been some evidence to suggest high elevation and high uv do in fact enhance the growth of trichomes and terpenes in not only marijuana, but herbs as well. There's also the common opinion that varieties of Papaver Somniferum (opium poppy) that grow in high elevations naturally, produce more alkaloids such as codeine and morphine than their lower elevation cousins... I don't know about that, but it is something poppy heads say. In terms of cactus, outdoor, weathered and wild peyotes are also said to contain more mescaline than anything grown indoors could hope to have. And recently there was a study where people grew seeds of high altitude, low water desert chiles, both in their place of origin and in Hawaii. The ones in Hawaii grew much bigger and lusher and easier, but had much less flavor and less heat than the ones grown in the high desert. I think things will always prefer their native regions, because that is the kind of plant they are... I mean, there's a reason cacao grows in the rainforest and not Canada... it's a rainforest plant... but there might be something to environmental stress that makes plants become more potent.
 

The Bud Whisperer

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Are others finding the HP crosses too dominant and poor yielding?
I'm curious also, i got 6 bodhi Ghash-dad crosses, hoping it adds "heavier" body effects to Indica mothers. The Herer Hashplant looks to have nice yields, but Jack already yields well. But Bubba has poor yields imho so Ghash doesn't seem to increase its yield.

I have seen that the OMG dad seems to put out some fat plants (Eternal Sunshine, Cherry Queen for example). Hoping to hear more about the OMG male.

*re the Ghash-dad, I found good info from an @AdvancedBuffalo post on Oct. 27, page 2776, post 55,503. Highly edited:
"Regarding the Hashplant, I hated basically every Hashplant leaning pheno of each cross. After looking back, the keepers were mom leaning in terps/high but the Hashplant dad cleaned up the structure and vigor.
The jalapeño smelling Hashplant leaning Clusterfunk I posted a while back had the most underwhelming, un-enjoyable, weird high. I also notice that the offensive/rank Hashplant terpenes are completely lost in the cure, so don’t base your selection on the smell of the living plant. Same deal with the Hashplant leaning black triangle and Peach Hashplant."
 
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