NukaKola's Indoor (Coco/LED)

NukaKola

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DAY 11 of 12/12:

I defoliated on Sunday (Day 7). There were a few plants that didn't show any pre-flowers before flipping and two ended up being male so those were removed. I rearranged the plants a bit to try to fill in the gaps.

The canopy is getting quite uneven at this point in the stretch phase with all the different strains/phenos but that is to be expected. I'll wait another week or so until the majority of stretch is over and then prop the shorter plants up to try and even it out a bit.

Day 7 after defol

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Day 11 (Far left: FPOGxStardawg, Left middle: Crescendo RBXv2, Right: GelatoxStardawg)

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NukaKola

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Got another one of the veg lights finished. That’s 2/3, just need to finish the last one. Went with 14 strips on this one instead of 10.
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Shot of the top half of the veg tent. The 10 stripper on the left side will end up going on the bottom half of the tent when I finish the other 14 stripper. The top will hold up to 50 moms/vegging plants.
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jonnynobody

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First and foremost I should probably apologize for the 10 or so alerts you just got for all the likes I hit from the beginning of reading this thread all the way through page 3 :) I've had so many questions about assembling a good DIY LED light using strips particularly using 3000k and 3500k strips. I'm not sold on 5000k as an LED spectrum, and I was on the hunt for a thread exactly like this one that could answer so many of the questions I've had since going down the DIY rabbit hole. The first thing I noticed when reading your journal is that you have setup your room cleanly and efficiently from the electrical to the manner in which you hang your lights and structure the canopy. Compliments on your previous harvest with the HID. Those were some very noteworthy looking flowers with exceptionally thick resin production. As I continued through your posts I got to see how you assembled your DIY boards and you did a fantastic job putting it all together. It's clean and the illumination is gorgeous. I really enjoyed the HLG boards you MacGyvered together. I think their fixtures are vastly overpriced and I would never purchase one from them. However, your DIY board turned out so nicely that I think I may order a couple of these for a DIY nursery board build:
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/qb288-v2-bspec-quantum-board
I know HLG stocks quality components. When it comes to DIY I would trust the integrity of their components. I'd still never buy a fixture from them, but I do find value in their company now. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your builds in the future. And I'm excited to see the results of your first 100% LED harvest.

As a side note it's very cool to follow your journal because I have a room of very similar size constraints, and it's nice to see how another gardener puts things together. Again, compliments to you on all of your hard work. Your room looks fantastic and so do your plants!

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maranibbana

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DAY 11 of 12/12:

I defoliated on Sunday (Day 7). There were a few plants that didn't show any pre-flowers before flipping and two ended up being male so those were removed. I rearranged the plants a bit to try to fill in the gaps.

The canopy is getting quite uneven at this point in the stretch phase with all the different strains/phenos but that is to be expected. I'll wait another week or so until the majority of stretch is over and then prop the shorter plants up to try and even it out a bit.

Day 7 after defol

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Day 11 (Far left: FPOGxStardawg, Left middle: Crescendo RBXv2, Right: GelatoxStardawg)

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looking very nice, great job <3
 

NukaKola

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First and foremost I should probably apologize for the 10 or so alerts you just got for all the likes I hit from the beginning of reading this thread all the way through page 3 :) I've had so many questions about assembling a good DIY LED light using strips particularly using 3000k and 3500k strips. I'm not sold on 5000k as an LED spectrum, and I was on the hunt for a thread exactly like this one that could answer so many of the questions I've had since going down the DIY rabbit hole. The first thing I noticed when reading your journal is that you have setup your room cleanly and efficiently from the electrical to the manner in which you hang your lights and structure the canopy. Compliments on your previous harvest with the HID. Those were some very noteworthy looking flowers with exceptionally thick resin production. As I continued through your posts I got to see how you assembled your DIY boards and you did a fantastic job putting it all together. It's clean and the illumination is gorgeous. I really enjoyed the HLG boards you MacGyvered together. I think their fixtures are vastly overpriced and I would never purchase one from them. However, your DIY board turned out so nicely that I think I may order a couple of these for a DIY nursery board build:
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/qb288-v2-bspec-quantum-board
I know HLG stocks quality components. When it comes to DIY I would trust the integrity of their components. I'd still never buy a fixture from them, but I do find value in their company now. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your builds in the future. And I'm excited to see the results of your first 100% LED harvest.

As a side note it's very cool to follow your journal because I have a room of very similar size constraints, and it's nice to see how another gardener puts things together. Again, compliments to you on all of your hard work. Your room looks fantastic and so do your plants!

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No need to apologize! I appreciate all the likes and kind words. Personally I think 3000K & 3500K are the way to go. The strip light I just built for the veg tent is a mix of 3000K & 4000K strips because they were sold out of 3500K.

HLG and pretty much any pre built LED are very expensive. I would only buy HLG if I’m doing DIY. Their QB 96’s are great bang for the buck. They use 96 high powered LumiLed 5050 diodes with added 630/660nm and perform similarly to a COB.

For your nursery you should consider the QB 120’s. They come in a 4-pack for $132 and each board can be ran up to 70w without a heatsink for a total of up to 280w. You can space them evenly apart for nice even coverage. Compared to the QB 288’s which is $80 + $30 for the heatsink to run a max of 150w. For flower QB 288’s are great but I think the diodes are kind of densely packed for veg and they don’t have the best $/watt.
 

jonnynobody

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No need to apologize! I appreciate all the likes and kind words. Personally I think 3000K & 3500K are the way to go. The strip light I just built for the veg tent is a mix of 3000K & 4000K strips because they were sold out of 3500K.

HLG and pretty much any pre built LED are very expensive. I would only buy HLG if I’m doing DIY. Their QB 96’s are great bang for the buck. They use 96 high powered LumiLed 5050 diodes with added 630/660nm and perform similarly to a COB.

For your nursery you should consider the QB 120’s. They come in a 4-pack for $132 and each board can be ran up to 70w without a heatsink for a total of up to 280w. You can space them evenly apart for nice even coverage. Compared to the QB 288’s which is $80 + $30 for the heatsink to run a max of 150w. For flower QB 288’s are great but I think the diodes are kind of densely packed for veg and they don’t have the best $/watt.
Thank you for the great recommendation! I checked out the QB 288's and 4 panels for $132 is a great value. Something I'm not use to saying about anything HLG related. I priced the recommended driver for running 4 boards, the HLG-240H-C2100, which is listed at $62.07 on Arrow Electronics. I see it's listed output is 249.9W. Is the driver output directly related to how much wattage the light can produce? I'm trying to figure out how to drive each board to 150W each. Would each panel need a 150w rated driver? Sorry for the rookie DIY questions. I think 70W per panel is perfect. 150w per panel would definitely be too much for veg but it could have a flower room application for mounting on the walls for side lighting.
 

NukaKola

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Thank you for the great recommendation! I checked out the QB 288's and 4 panels for $132 is a great value. Something I'm not use to saying about anything HLG related. I priced the recommended driver for running 4 boards, the HLG-240H-C2100, which is listed at $62.07 on Arrow Electronics. I see it's listed output is 249.9W. Is the driver output directly related to how much wattage the light can produce? I'm trying to figure out how to drive each board to 150W each. Would each panel need a 150w rated driver? Sorry for the rookie DIY questions. I think 70W per panel is perfect. 150w per panel would definitely be too much for veg but it could have a flower room application for mounting on the walls for side lighting.
Yes the driver determines the maximum wattage but the boards need to be able to support that much current. The QB 120’s are 24V and can only take a max of 70w per board. The QB 288’s are 54V and can take a maximum of 150w per board. An HLG-240h-24A would work for 4x QB 120’s wired in parallel. You can wire multiple boards per driver you just have to pair them accordingly. The problem with QB 288’s running at 150w each for side lighting is that you would want them a minimum of 18” from the plants so if you had them mounted on 2 sides or all 4 sides you are losing lots of potential canopy space.
 
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NukaKola

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Day 33 of 12/12:

Current feed: ~1EC
- 2.5ml Protekt
- 6ml Bloom

Not too happy with how this run is turning out. They have been neglected severely because of work. I've only been home one day a week for the last two months and during that time I have so many other things I need to do that I'm not really able to tend to the plants. I did not anticipate the severe stretch in flower since the LED's kept them so compact during veg. I think it was partially due to me raising the lights too high in fear of them stretching too close while I was away. Had to max out the lights to the ceiling and super crop the shit out of them. Live and learn. Next cycle I will keep the lights closer and flip sooner. I also won't have to be out of town every week so that will help tremendously.

I don't think I will be keeping any of the City Slickers (Gelato x Stardawg) unless any of them blow me away in the coming weeks. They just stretch too much for my short ceilings and I'm not impressed by the stacking so far.

Enough bitchin...Time for some pics

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ikushy420

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nice grow journal. But what im most amazed of chickens getting rid of male plants O.O . In all my smoking and growing years i never saw or heard anything like that . Thats just amazing . But at then end its true we used Feminized seeds only.
 

NukaKola

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nice grow journal. But what im most amazed of chickens getting rid of male plants O.O . In all my smoking and growing years i never saw or heard anything like that . Thats just amazing . But at then end its true we used Feminized seeds only.
Yeah they are mini dinosaurs and will eat just about anything. They don't have capsaicin receptors either so I take all the extra hot peppers from the garden and mash them up and they love it!
 

NukaKola

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Frosty <3 those are gonna be dense like a brick . Atleast they look like it :D
I hope so. They aren’t as bulky as I’m used to seeing with HPS but I’ve heard LED buds are considerably denser despite the smaller size. I’m quite impressed with the quality under LED so far and I’m very interested to see how they perform yield wise once I run a mono crop with clones.
 
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