Tri-leaf seedling.

xtsho

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What's up guys. Just popped some auto beans to give me some amusement while I veg out a Orange Octane mother to propagate (fem photo).

Anyway. Got two Dark Devil seeds going and one Dosidos.

The one Dark Devil I'm growing got a sick tri leaf phyllotaxis. Should mean extra budsites of that red and purple yum yum.

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What is your experience with mutations? Post ur plants here if you care to.
I've had several of those. They all ended up growing the same from my recollection.


Here is my variegated Mango Kush. Not the best pics but in real life it is half one color half another. Certain leaves are even 50/50. It’s a pretty cool mutation IMO, but I’ve read that it affects yield :(
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That's not variegation that's a nutrient issue

This is variegation. It's not my picture just one I pulled off the internet as an example.

 

weedRus

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Pics or it didn’t happen :bigjoint:
I wish I could preserve the trait but Im not sure how to go about it with autos.

Thanks for commenting.
you need to grab yourself some colloidal silver @ 30-50ppm. Spray on some nodes 2 to 3 times per day. Start 5 days before auto flowers and keep spraying for 21 days. this will cause the female plant to produce pollen on those nodes and u can then breed back into the same plant.
 

MintyDreadlocks

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you need to grab yourself some colloidal silver @ 30-50ppm. Spray on some nodes 2 to 3 times per day. Start 5 days before auto flowers and keep spraying for 21 days. this will cause the female plant to produce pollen on those nodes and u can then breed back into the same plant.
Thanks for the tip I bookmarked that post.

Will the plant self pollinate and produce seeds? Or will I have to collect the pollen and apply it to another plant with the same genetics to get a bounty of seeds?
 

weedRus

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Thanks for the tip I bookmarked that post.

Will the plant self pollinate and produce seeds? Or will I have to collect the pollen and apply it to another plant with the same genetics to get a bounty of seeds?
yes, as long as you give it a little help. A fan will spread it around fine. Watch out , cannabis pollen is like a teenageger in heat, it will pollinate all your females. Let me show you on female gold leaf I have pollen sacks on...
 

Star Dog

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Never had one with 3 leafs I did have one that stalled after the cotyledons, 6 weeks I kept it and it didn't go back or forwards?
 

dbz

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Thanks for the tip I bookmarked that post.

Will the plant self pollinate and produce seeds? Or will I have to collect the pollen and apply it to another plant with the same genetics to get a bounty of seeds?
As I understand genetics that won't necessarily preserve the trait. Even when selfing you still have two sets of parent genes and they can express in different ways with all of the phenotypes you would get off of the S1s. Afaik the only way to try and preserve exact traits is cloning, unless you go through a long line of RIL to get very close.

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BBQtoast

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Genetics doing wrong stuff when stressed is common but it doesn't change the genetics and there is no trait to breed or there would be three leaf and variegated strains already on sale.

Before you think you just found something and start dreaming up fame and fortune.
 

MintyDreadlocks

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Genetics doing wrong stuff when stressed is common but it doesn't change the genetics and there is no trait to breed or there would be three leaf and variegated strains already on sale.

Before you think you just found something and start dreaming up fame and fortune.
In theory you're so wrong it's not even funny...

If you managed to stabilize the phytohormone than you would be successful. Just like with dutch passions Duck Foot.....

You claim there is "no trait' but there is. That's all I'm saying. You might be right that it's difficult and may not be worth even trying but I think it's foolish to say that you won't try something new because it hasn't been proven yet . Or trendy.

That goes against gardening in every way, shape or form. Innovation and creativity....
 
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BBQtoast

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In theory you're so wrong it's not even funny...

If you managed to stabilize the phytohormone than you would be successful. Just like with dutch passions Duck Foot.....

You claim there is "no trait' but there is. That's all I'm saying. You might be right that it's difficult and may not be worth even trying but I think it's foolish to say that you won't try something new because it hasn't been proven yet . Or trendy.

That goes against gardening in every way, shape or form. Innovation and creativity....
It has been proven, you are not the first to see this.
 

dbz

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In theory you're so wrong it's not even funny...

If you managed to stabilize the phytohormone than you would be successful. Just like with dutch passions Duck Foot.....

You claim there is "no trait' but there is. That's all I'm saying. You might be right that it's difficult and may not be worth even trying but I think it's foolish to say that you won't try something new because it hasn't been proven yet . Or trendy.

That goes against gardening in every way, shape or form. Innovation and creativity....
Yeah, there's a reason DJ shorts thai breeds produced a lot of varieagated types. One guy did an experiment the V experiment about it came out with some crazy pretty looking plants some half white and pink, not that their bud was great necessarily with the lack of chlorophyll but all mutations can be chimeric and/or genetic and even chimeras can be found to produce the same traits more often.
The thing is that it is a mutation of lack of chlorophyll and all of them are not necessarily beneficial in fact most probably aren't so it isn't sought after by breeders really so much as remarked on and cool in an healthy plant that looks cool. ABC mutations the same way, they tried to breed them in for a while with success but it just wasn't advantageous and it was a lot of work.
 
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