The Game is over Trump

MICHI-CAN

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are you a nixon republicon?

the clintons are private citizens- how long are you going to beat this dead horse?
Wow. The Clinton school of political prostitution and deceptive double dealing are why we have corporate democrats. Bill brought it. Hillary perpetuated and exploited it. Not the people most are thinking. Lengthy list of actions that lead to alot of our problems.

Sorry you didn't get the memo. One word though. "N.A.F.T.A.".

Just honest and disgusted.

Hope you have a good day.

Made me laugh. Peace.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Are you talking about Feinstein? I haven't seen anything about the next Demopocolyps hug fest.

Are you sure you are not just having propaganda flashbacks about the Clintons? There are always things to be upset about, but really do you think that they have been dirty? Because I don't see anything outside of lying about a bj in the decades of investigations that the Republicans ran on two people in the brightest spotlight in history, and a whole shit load of bullshit from the right to stop us from having a extremely competent woman in charge of the nation.
No actual hug fest. But a statement of intent to move on. Kumbaia. (however it is spelled.) You must be 2 decades older than me or one behind. Clintons are bad.

And we have no dog in the fight. Never will.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I must have missed the fist after the "we are going to move forward".

Eerily, yet expectedly like" I'm going to look forward. Not backward from 2012.
You are too used to Donald and overt threats, the most dangerous threats are spoken quietly, they are of the speak softly variety. Those who he spoke to understood, those who voted for them not so much. It ain't Joe they need fear though, it's not his job to make any honest citizen fear him, quite the opposite, it's the people he will appoint they need to fear. If they broke the law and constitution they will have plenty to fear, if not they need fear not anything. He doesn't need to tell them he will destroy them publicly, it is his sworn duty as POTUS to do so, all enemies foreign and domestic, they have declared themselves enemies of the constitution and therefore the enemy of every patriotic American.

I figure the speech had a good balance and the message was clear to those who could hear, those who signed on to treason have enlisted themselves. Joe's concern and target are the 20% of republican voters who recognize him as POTUS, they are the soft targets among the republican base, you only need a few percent to destroy them as a political force.

Today Putin recognized Joe Biden as president elect and most of the republican senate and house have not, that speaks volumes. Look who he appointed to oversee domestic policy for your answer, Susan Rice, a national security heavy weight, someone who specialized in foreign threats is now in charge of dealing with domestic ones.
 
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MICHI-CAN

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You are too used to Donald and overt threats, the most dangerous threats are spoken quietly, they are of the speak softly variety. Those who he spoke to understood, those who voted for them not so much. It ain't Joe they need fear though, it's not his job to make any honest citizen fear him, quite the opposite, it's the people he will appoint they need to fear. If they broke the law and constitution they will have plenty to fear, if not they need fear anything. He doesn't need to tell them he will destroy them publicly, it is his sworn duty as POTUS to do so, all enemies foreign and domestic, they have declared themselves enemies of the constitution and therefore the enemy of every patriotic American.

I figure the speech had a good balance and the message was clear to those who could hear, those who signed on to treason have enlisted themselves. Joe's concern and target are the 20% of republican voters who recognize him as POTUS, they are the soft targets among the republican base, you only need a few percent to destroy them as a political force.

Today Putin recognized Joe Biden as president elect and most of the republican senate and house have not, that speaks volumes. Look who he appointed to oversee domestic policy for your answer, Susan Rice, a national security heavy weight, someone who specialized in foreign threats is now in charge of dealing with domestic ones.
Wish I could share your optimism. And not wanting threats. Enough hot air and posturing. I want some pursuit of justice and an actual enforcement of the laws. A defense of the constitution and end to the criminals just letting the crimes continue.

Why is it so hard for people to admit it is all a ruse? It is blatantly obvious and repeated weekly.

Biden's picks? Career corporate shills and revolving door lobbyist and corporate profiteers.

I have no faith in either party. Beyond serving an interest other than the peoples.
 

schuylaar

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The majority of his sentence was on the racketeering and conspiracy charges. It had very little to do with marijuana.

Gangsters normally do more time for racketeering and conspiracy than they do murder and income tax evasion.

Those two charges are quite often a life sentence. The part that counts, anyway.
which he more than likely ran from behind bars anyway if he was anyone important.
 

schuylaar

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Wish I could share your optimism. And not wanting threats. Enough hot air and posturing. I want some pursuit of justice and an actual enforcement of the laws. A defense of the constitution and end to the criminals just letting the crimes continue.

Why is it so hard for people to admit it is all a ruse? It is blatantly obvious and repeated weekly.

Biden's picks? Career corporate shills and revolving door lobbyist and corporate profiteers.

I have no faith in either party. Beyond serving an interest other than the peoples.
this vagueness holds you hostage with fear and anger; and you don't even know why.

pursuit of what justice? what has not been enforced to your satisfaction? the Constitution? SCOTUS just upheld in spectacular but NOT in Trumpian fashion..is that what you're upset with?..criminals letting the crimes continue? makes no sense.
 

MICHI-CAN

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In an attempt at sincere civility. I can only say you're either trolling or just distracted. The laws broken are so numerous at this point it is hard to keep track.

Sadly the public's apparent ignorance makes sense.

May you be enlightened one day.

And glad you are at least involved.

Peace.
 

hanimmal

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No actual hug fest. But a statement of intent to move on. Kumbaia. (however it is spelled.) You must be 2 decades older than me or one behind. Clintons are bad.

And we have no dog in the fight. Never will.
I see.

I respectively disagree with you about the Clinton's. For what it is worth I am in my early 40's. And especially disagree about the NAFTA and other trade deals being a bad thing for our nation.

That is not to say that there is not always ways we coulda/shoulda done better, but I know that the relentless attacks on them from the right wing media since the 90's has been pushing this relentlessly. And it's branding that Trump used as his platform has unfortunately stuck.


https://www.rollitup.org/t/another-republican-president-another-recession.1010837/post-16000885
 

MICHI-CAN

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I see.

I respectively disagree with you about the Clinton's. For what it is worth I am in my early 40's. And especially disagree about the NAFTA and other trade deals being a bad thing for our nation.

That is not to say that there is not always ways we coulda/shoulda done better, but I know that the relentless attacks on them from the right wing media since the 90's has been pushing this relentlessly. And it's branding that Trump used as his platform has unfortunately stuck.


https://www.rollitup.org/t/another-republican-president-another-recession.1010837/post-16000885
Thank you for the decency. I hear you. 50's here. Life long democrat. The Utah land deal began my scutinizing the Clintons. And NAFTA destroyed the wage base in manufacturing forever. Not right wing driven for me. Cause and effect. Actions not speeches and platforms.

The lack of complete factual disclosure has lead to our differing beliefs I believe. Or you own an international corporation or large stock holding in one or more. Really difficult to relate as a skilled laborer.

Thank you for the insight.
 

hanimmal

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Thank you for the decency. I hear you. 50's here. Life long democrat.
Always try, if I ever get shitty, just say something and I will take a step back, the trolling is endless and I am only human.

The Utah land deal began my scutinizing the Clintons.
Which was brought up by the Republicans. Knowing what you do now, can you not imagine a world where this was propagandized as being something bad when it might not have been?

And NAFTA destroyed the wage base in manufacturing forever.
I remember the 80's, back then it was the Japanese that was getting the blame. I would also put more blame on robotics than NAFTA.

Not right wing driven for me. Cause and effect. Actions not speeches and platforms.
I look more at Bill overseeing the longest economic expansion as the cause and effect for me.

The lack of complete factual disclosure has lead to our differing beliefs I believe. Or you own an international corporation or large stock holding in one or more. Really difficult to relate as a skilled laborer.
I am all for transparency (whenever possible). I agree on being hard to relate.

I was always thinking I would end up in construction or a factory but ended up wrestling for a couple years in college and wanted to have some fun for a bit. After working in restaurants in/around Ann Arbor for a few years, I moved into retail management (2000's) and got to see the flood to overseas manufacturing through our vendors and how much that changed everything.

After the Great Recession I went back to school and that has helped me to understand (through studying economics/math/finance/statistics) a lot of the background that I never understood before. I was lucky to be able to apply what I had seen through the real world and applying it throughout gaining my education as a way to be able to relate what I was learning.

We have been shown a lot of bullshit that gets easily packaged into catchy propaganda, because the reality is far more complex and has so many moving pieces that it is easily manipulated into seeming like it is bad with fast talking propagandists that inevitably get parroted so much it becomes reality.

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Also for real, I am not saying that the Clintons (or anyone else) has made perfect decisions and everything they ever did was altruistic, I am not naive, but I also don't require perfection to be satisfied. And am just pointing out that the noise factory was working overtime on them for decades with Republican attacks (hate radio/Fox/ nonstop hearings and investigations etc) and they never shown true criminality tied to their political office (or any other that I have seen) with the Clintons. And the most likely reason is that because there wasn't any, because they also knew they were under a microscope.
 
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TacoMac

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When you have to make six posts in a row, you probably have little idea which way is up, let alone what's really going on.

You are, in all likelihood, shouting at the rain.
 
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