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xtsho

xtsho

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hanimmal said:
Only if you don't count tips and the fact that it is easy to pick up shifts when you need to pay rent or whatever else. Waiting tables is not a job that the paycheck really tell the story.

During a pandemic, it is far safer (and far cheaper if we don't have to pack our hospitals to the gills with very sick people) if people with non-essential public facing jobs stay home.
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Yes I could see that being true for some restaurant workers. But there were many workers in other industries whose income went up due to those $600 checks. And unfortunately many didn't save that extra income like they should have or realized that they would have to pay taxes on it later. Many are finding themselves off worse financially because they didn't plan ahead. They took advantage of eviction moratoriums and now are months behind in their rent with the eviction moratoriums coming to an end and no more $600 checks. It sucks but people make their own choices sometimes not always the right ones.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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xtsho said:
Yes I could see that being true for some restaurant workers. But there were many workers in other industries whose income went up due to those $600 checks. And unfortunately many didn't save that extra income like they should have or realized that they would have to pay taxes on it later. Many are finding themselves off worse financially because they didn't plan ahead. They took advantage of eviction moratoriums and now are months behind in their rent with the eviction moratoriums coming to an end and no more $600 checks. It sucks but people make their own choices sometimes not always the right ones.
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amazing how Europe pays their wait staff a living wage.
denmark pays their citizens up to 90% of their wages on one condition: the company can't lay them off.

but we gotta have 1 trillion for our military and not our people.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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mysunnyboy said:
I don’t understand the NEED people have for dining out now or going to bars.
I just don’t get it.
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I don't get it either. The need to sit and consume a meal surrounded by strangers has never been my thing. That and the fact that I have worked in the restaurant industry and saw things in kitchens that make it hard for me to eat out. Prior to the pandemic I rarely ate out or went to bars. I can cook better than what you can get at a restaurant anyway. Once or twice a month I'd meet up with some friends and have a pint or 2 but that was it.
 
topcat

topcat

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rkymtnman said:
amazing how Europe pays their wait staff a living wage.
denmark pays their citizens up to 90% of their wages on one condition: the company can't lay them off.

but we gotta have 1 trillion for our military and not our people.
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"They said, 'Sir, we're out of ammunition."
Edit: said by "a very overrated general." Now, the military is "tippy top."
 
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hanimmal

hanimmal

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xtsho said:
Yes I could see that being true for some restaurant workers. But there were many workers in other industries whose income went up due to those $600 checks. And unfortunately many didn't save that extra income like they should have or realized that they would have to pay taxes on it later. Many are finding themselves off worse financially because they didn't plan ahead. They took advantage of eviction moratoriums and now are months behind in their rent with the eviction moratoriums coming to an end and no more $600 checks. It sucks but people make their own choices sometimes not always the right ones.
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By 'many' are you mostly talking out of your ass though? I would like to see those numbers, and then compare them to the cost of trying to figure out how to micro manage the checks going out to people. I am guessing it was cheaper/easeir to just send the money to the 'many' people who may make slightly more with the extra UE.

Planning ahead in a time of a pandemic when the POTUS is telling everyone that it is going to magically disapear seems pretty far fetched.

xtsho said:
I don't get it either. The need to sit and consume a meal surrounded by strangers has never been my thing. That and the fact that I have worked in the restaurant industry and saw things in kitchens that make it hard for me to eat out. Prior to the pandemic I rarely ate out or went to bars. I can cook better than what you can get at a restaurant anyway. Once or twice a month I'd meet up with some friends and have a pint or 2 but that was it.
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I loved going out to eat when there was a smoking section. After they went away it pretty much ended the fun for me. Ended the fun of smoking too, so there was that.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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xtsho said:
I don't get it either. The need to sit and consume a meal surrounded by strangers has never been my thing. That and the fact that I have worked in the restaurant industry and saw things in kitchens that make it hard for me to eat out. Prior to the pandemic I rarely ate out or went to bars. I can cook better than what you can get at a restaurant anyway. Once or twice a month I'd meet up with some friends and have a pint or 2 but that was it.
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we've been getting some growlers filled at our local brewery. drink local!
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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hanimmal said:
By 'many' are you mostly talking out of your ass though? I would like to see those numbers, and then compare them to the cost of trying to figure out how to micro manage the checks going out to people. I am guessing it was cheaper/easeir to just send the money to the 'many' people who may make slightly more with the extra UE.

Planning ahead in a time of a pandemic when the POTUS is telling everyone that it is going to magically disapear seems pretty far fetched.


I loved going out to eat when there was a smoking section. After they went away it pretty much ended the fun for me. Ended the fun of smoking too, so there was that.
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remember flying on planes when smoking was allowed? no wonder i got asthma as a kid. lol.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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rkymtnman said:
but we gotta have 1 trillion for our military and not our people.
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That's because brown people might get some, better to waste the money than let something truly horrible like that happen! Remember they are at war and in war sacrifices have to be made, even if you and your family are dying for want of healthcare. If the brown folks got some that would be socialism (just a dog whistle word) and forming a sharing caring community with those you despise, fear and hate. Why do you think the USA is an outlier for healthcare, rates of incarceration, defense spending and covid deaths? 47% of the population was not satisficed with a mere 300,000 deaths and a national catastrophe that any reasonable person could see was almost entirely Trump's fault. It's the same for the election results, any reasonable person could see it.

Putin recognized Joe before the vast majority of republicans in congress FFS, I can't decide if it's more pathetic than treasonous, but it is definitely both.
 
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xtsho

xtsho

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hanimmal said:
By 'many' are you mostly talking out of your ass though? I would like to see those numbers, and then compare them to the cost of trying to figure out how to micro manage the checks going out to people. I am guessing it was cheaper/easeir to just send the money to the 'many' people who may make slightly more with the extra UE.

Planning ahead in a time of a pandemic when the POTUS is telling everyone that it is going to magically disapear seems pretty far fetched.


I loved going out to eat when there was a smoking section. After they went away it pretty much ended the fun for me. Ended the fun of smoking too, so there was that.
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The people that believed anything that lying POTUS was saying are just ignorant. He was a proven liar before becoming President and he just got worse after he was inaugurated. Claiming more people showed up for him than Obama despite proof that they didn't. The first White House press briefing under the trump administration was a collection of lies and set the tone for the rest of these horrible last 4 years. Idiots that could care less if what he said was true. It has been quite an eye opening experience to watch. I knew there were lots of idiots in America but I didn't realize how many there actually were that they would ignore the facts and become basically cult members and believe everything and question nothing the scumbag piece of garbage said.

The smoking ban in restaurants and bars is great. I used to have to hang my leather jacket out in the garage because it stunk so much after a couple hours having a few pints with friends at the bar. That was back when I would smoke on occasion. Smoking is a nasty habit anyway. I'm fine with smokers having to go outside to smoke.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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xtsho said:
The people that believed anything that lying POTUS was saying are just ignorant. He was a proven liar before becoming President and he just got worse after he was inaugurated. Claiming more people showed up for him than Obama despite proof that they didn't. The first White House press briefing under the trump administration was a collection of lies and set the tone for the rest of these horrible last 4 years. Idiots that could care less if what he said was true. It has been quite an eye opening experience to watch. I knew there were lots of idiots in America but I didn't realize how many there actually were that they would ignore the facts and become basically cult members and believe everything and question nothing the scumbag piece of garbage said.

The smoking ban in restaurants and bars is great. I used to have to hang my leather jacket out in the garage because it stunk so much after a couple hours having a few pints with friends at the bar. That was back when I would smoke on occasion. Smoking is a nasty habit anyway. I'm fine with smokers having to go outside to smoke.
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Yeah we quit smoking around the same time that the bans all started. I still miss it from time to time, but not enough to go get a pack.
 
mysunnyboy

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rkymtnman said:
no shit. take-out works for us. although mexican take out sucks; you gotta hve the chips and salsa while the chips are warm.
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I cook better than any restaurant around.
While I enjoyed bars in my younger days, not so much now. I like clubs and music but I’m not gonna die by staying home and missing that stuff. I’d rather smoke a joint that have a drink.
So I guess that’s just my hang up.
 
mysunnyboy

mysunnyboy

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xtsho said:
I don't get it either. The need to sit and consume a meal surrounded by strangers has never been my thing. That and the fact that I have worked in the restaurant industry and saw things in kitchens that make it hard for me to eat out. Prior to the pandemic I rarely ate out or went to bars. I can cook better than what you can get at a restaurant anyway. Once or twice a month I'd meet up with some friends and have a pint or 2 but that was it.
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Always felt like a feeding trough to me.
But then again I did spend too much time in the microbiology world.
 
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