What has Trump done to this country?

Jimdamick

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Holy fuck
That madman/traitor/criminal & retired Army General (can you believe he led US troops?) & Trumps former national security advisor Michael Flynn said that President Donald Trump should impose martial law to force new elections in battleground states that he lost.
Speaking to the pro-Trump network Newsmax last night, he stated that the president should deploy the military and "seize" voting machines to hold a new election.
"There is no way in the world we are going to be able to move forward as a nation," said Flynn, who was recently pardoned by Trump after pleading guilty to a felony count of lying to the FBI. "He could immediately, on his order, seize every single one of these voting machines, on his order."
Flynn appeared to be referencing the far-right conspiracy theory that Democratic operatives and election officials somehow rigged voting machines across the country to switch votes from Trump to Biden.
"He could order the, within the swing states, if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities, and he could place those in states and basically re-run an election in each of those states," Flynn told Newsmax. "I mean, it's not unprecedented. These people are out there talking about martial law like it's something that we've never done. Martial law has been instituted 64 times."
Jesus fucking Christ
And 75 million Americans support this shit.
Dark day's on the horizon it seems :(
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Holy fuck
That madman/traitor/criminal & retired Army General (can you believe he led US troops?) & Trumps former national security advisor Michael Flynn said that President Donald Trump should impose martial law to force new elections in battleground states that he lost.
Speaking to the pro-Trump network Newsmax last night, he stated that the president should deploy the military and "seize" voting machines to hold a new election.
"There is no way in the world we are going to be able to move forward as a nation," said Flynn, who was recently pardoned by Trump after pleading guilty to a felony count of lying to the FBI. "He could immediately, on his order, seize every single one of these [voting] machines, on his order."
Flynn appeared to be referencing the far-right conspiracy theory that Democratic operatives and election officials somehow rigged voting machines across the country to switch votes from Trump to Biden.
"He could order the, within the swing states, if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities, and he could place those in states and basically re-run an election in each of those states," Flynn told Newsmax. "I mean, it's not unprecedented. These people are out there talking about martial law like it's something that we've never done. Martial law has been instituted 64 times."
Jesus fucking Christ
And 75 million Americans support this shit.
Dark day's on the horizon it seems :(
Yep that could be considered payment for a corrupt pardon. From what I've seen of Mikey's pardon it doesn't cover other crimes they can nail him for and the pardon that he's got can be challenged in whole or in part. Donald is gonna test every aspect of the pardon power next year and the SCOTUS watches the news and has yet to rule on pardons. There are no fascist justices, there are conservatives ones and a couple are real aresholes, but not that fucking stupid. I figure quite a few folks are gonna be shocked when they rule any pardon connected to Trump personally for the purposes of hiding crimes he was connected to will be worthless. The test pardons he gave to others like scooter Libby or other celebrity types will stand. The question of pardons will be settled and unless they go through an Obama like process, they will be vulnerable to judicial review.

Donald could pardon all the white prisoners in the federal prison system for instance, murders rapist even death row killers with a single sheet of paper. I wonder if they would do anything about that? Donald wants to destroy the republican party after all, let them support that move. I'm sure Lindsey will be all for it and praise Donald's infinite wisdom as chair of the judiciary committee! :lol: The base won't mind because all the rapist and murders were white, so it would be ok with them, except those who were victims, but maybe not, Remember the chosen one operates in mysterious ways and is a stable jenuis, his mind is far beyond the understanding of mere mortals...
 
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Fogdog

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This Trump administration appears to be playing politics with vaccine distribution.

Pfizer Says Millions Of Vaccine Doses Are Ready, But States Say Shipments Were Cut


"Pfizer is pushing back on the Trump administration's suggestion that the company is having trouble producing its COVID-19 vaccine, saying it's ready to ship millions more doses – once the government asks for them. As the company spoke out, several states said their vaccine allocations for next week have been sharply reduced.

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has told his state that its vaccine allocation "will be cut by 40 percent next week — and that all states are seeing similar cuts." The federal government did not give an explanation, he said.

Other states reporting sizable drops in their vaccine shipments include Michigan, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire and Indiana, The Associated Press reported. (also, Iowa, Idaho and Florida have reported cuts in shipments.)

HHS officials have disagreed with claims that states' allocations are being cut, issuing a statement that calls such reports "incorrect."

Azar spoke about supplies of Pfizer's vaccine on Wednesday, responding to a reporter's request for an update on negotiations to get more doses.

"The core issue ... is Pfizer's ability to manufacture by a date certain," Azar said. "Now that they have identified some of their production challenges that they've got, we've been working with them on what assistance is appropriate for us to provide in order for us to secure additional doses.""


One can't help but suspect that Trump was upset at Pfizer for self-funding research and production of their vaccine in order to avoid, as they said, "burdensome bureaucracy".
 
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captainmorgan

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This Trump administration appears to be playing politics with vaccine distribution.

Pfizer Says Millions Of Vaccine Doses Are Ready, But States Say Shipments Were Cut


"Pfizer is pushing back on the Trump administration's suggestion that the company is having trouble producing its COVID-19 vaccine, saying it's ready to ship millions more doses – once the government asks for them. As the company spoke out, several states said their vaccine allocations for next week have been sharply reduced.

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has told his state that its vaccine allocation "will be cut by 40 percent next week — and that all states are seeing similar cuts." The federal government did not give an explanation, he said.

Other states reporting sizable drops in their vaccine shipments include Michigan, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire and Indiana, The Associated Press reported. (also, Iowa, Idaho and Florida have reported cuts in shipments.)

HHS officials have disagreed with claims that states' allocations are being cut, issuing a statement that calls such reports "incorrect."

Azar spoke about supplies of Pfizer's vaccine on Wednesday, responding to a reporter's request for an update on negotiations to get more doses.

"The core issue ... is Pfizer's ability to manufacture by a date certain," Azar said. "Now that they have identified some of their production challenges that they've got, we've been working with them on what assistance is appropriate for us to provide in order for us to secure additional doses.""


One can't help but suspect that Trump was upset at Pfizer for self-funding research and production of their vaccine in order to avoid, as they said, "burdensome bureaucracy".


The tRUmp Admin did not botch the Pfizer rollout. They knew Moderna could be given the green light for its EUA. The Trump Vaccine Czar has stock in Moderna. Their stock price goes up & he makes money. This is why they are holding Pfizer back, to make money.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This Trump administration appears to be playing politics with vaccine distribution.

Pfizer Says Millions Of Vaccine Doses Are Ready, But States Say Shipments Were Cut


"Pfizer is pushing back on the Trump administration's suggestion that the company is having trouble producing its COVID-19 vaccine, saying it's ready to ship millions more doses – once the government asks for them. As the company spoke out, several states said their vaccine allocations for next week have been sharply reduced.

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has told his state that its vaccine allocation "will be cut by 40 percent next week — and that all states are seeing similar cuts." The federal government did not give an explanation, he said.

Other states reporting sizable drops in their vaccine shipments include Michigan, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire and Indiana, The Associated Press reported. (also, Iowa, Idaho and Florida have reported cuts in shipments.)

HHS officials have disagreed with claims that states' allocations are being cut, issuing a statement that calls such reports "incorrect."

Azar spoke about supplies of Pfizer's vaccine on Wednesday, responding to a reporter's request for an update on negotiations to get more doses.

"The core issue ... is Pfizer's ability to manufacture by a date certain," Azar said. "Now that they have identified some of their production challenges that they've got, we've been working with them on what assistance is appropriate for us to provide in order for us to secure additional doses.""


One can't help but suspect that Trump was upset at Pfizer for self-funding research and production of their vaccine in order to avoid, as they said, "burdensome bureaucracy".
I expected no less, are you surprised? I hear CAs allotment was cut by 40% too. Mass murder might be cause for inherent powers and people hauled in and if they don't answer right there and then they will get 10 years. I know there is a great reluctance to use inherent powers, but given the circumstances it might be required to save lives if they find out supplies are being redirected to red states and not according to a proper plan. Your congress people must be wild over this and be ready to set a fire outside Nancy's office door, immediate answers will be required, thousands of lives are at stake, ditto for any other states thus affected.

Inherent powers should be used to force access to HHS and the pentagon, America is under a very serious attack NOW! Jesus they could be uploading every virus and piece of malware know to man if the have control! They are gonna need to pull the plug on these systems and put them on a closed intranet with no internet access, updates by DVD only for a year at least. Bring in laptops and do your emails from there. One of the passwords used at solar winds was 123 FFS! :cry: How did these clowns who suddenly rebranded themselves and had no expertise get the contract for classified systems? Campaign contributions to the right people? Some dark corporate cash?

The national security people must be freaking bigly and climbing the walls and the management team of solar winds will be in Hell next year living on the congressional hot seat
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The tRUmp Admin did not botch the Pfizer rollout. They knew Moderna could be given the green light for its EUA. The Trump Vaccine Czar has stock in Moderna. Their stock price goes up & he makes money. This is why they are holding Pfizer back, to make money.
Then they are idiots who will be in prison forever, pardons won't help with this shit, someone will murder them if they cost thousands of lives. I figure it's just Trump revenge on those states he doesn't like, NY should also have it's supply cut too as well as CA. He did the same thing with PPE
 

TacoMac

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My wife pointed out a rather scary thing about the Moderna vaccine.

This will be the very first medication Moderna has ever made and had approved by the FDA.

First. Ever.

If that doesn't scare you just a bit that people with stock in Moderna just happen to approve its very first ever medication, well...you have a lot more faith than I do.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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My wife pointed out a rather scary thing about the Moderna vaccine.

This will be the very first medication Moderna has ever made and had approved by the FDA.

First. Ever.

If that doesn't scare you just a bit that people with stock in Moderna just happen to approve its very first ever medication, well...you have a lot more faith than I do.
Who has stock in Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson and all the other company’s who have the vaccine now and in the near future? I am sure a lot of people . You have to start somewhere and I believe Moderna has been working for years in this mRNA development. I feel lucky they were able to get a vaccine out for us. They worked their asses of to get this vaccine and I feel grateful not scared at all.
 

Fogdog

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My wife pointed out a rather scary thing about the Moderna vaccine.

This will be the very first medication Moderna has ever made and had approved by the FDA.

First. Ever.

If that doesn't scare you just a bit that people with stock in Moderna just happen to approve its very first ever medication, well...you have a lot more faith than I do.
^^ Baloney detection tool kit, logical fallacy number 4: appeal to ignorance. The claim that whatever has not been proved false must be true, and vice versa.

We saw similar baloney in Trump's claims about fraudulent mail in ballots. What he and Taco did is raise an unjustified concern as if it were substantial. People who use this tactic are simply lazy or attempting to manipulate. One must to provide evidence to justify their claim, not simply say "woo woo, this is scary". After reviewing all available information and airing concerns an FDA panel of medical and technical experts approved emergency authorization of the use of Moderna's vaccine. From what we know, the vaccine is safe and effective.

So, what do we know from recent testing on the Moderna vaccine?

About 30,000 people participated in the most recent testing in a classic double-blind trial. The vaccine is so effective, with so few and low risks found, that it would be unethical to leave the "blind control" or placebo group unvaccinated.

Long term testing is being waived because we are in a crisis right now, a deadly epidemic is in full bloom and the vaccine is so effective it would be wrong to continue to hold the vaccines in check and continue with longer term testing. This means that the population at large is going to be the long term test group. We cannot know what the long term risks are until we have done the testing. That said, there is nothing to indicate that there is a significant long term risk. Do we decide based upon fear of the unknown or do we decide based upon data and a review by a panel of FDA expert scientists? The only rational choice is to take the advice of FDA experts. Go ahead and read up. There is plenty of time to change one's mind before it becomes available to the general public.

My earlier post about Pfizer shows what Trump and his cronies always do - meddle and muck things up. As Morgan suggests, there may be financial reasons why the Trump administration is delaying delivery of the Pfizer in favor of Moderna. Or possibly, as DIY suggests, Trump is engaged in a Machiavellian show of power by punishing blue states. IDK what is going on but what we know is, FDA has given its approval, the vaccines are very effective at protecting people from Covid. Pfizer says they have millions of doses ready for delivery. Now that deliveries have begun, many states are saying their allotments of the Pfizer vaccine is less than expected. The states also say there is no good way for them to know how many doses will be available to them. None of this suggests anything is wrong with the safety and efficacy of either vaccine. It's simply a continuation of the failure of Trump's administration to serve the US public.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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tRUmp made some sort of deal with Moderna in January and one of Modernas people in on the warp speed task force.
Early reports say it's logistical issues and fuck ups, Trump states are affected too and the snow storm had something to do with it. This is a pretty hot button right now and we will have a full picture soon I figure. A couple of respected experts think that's the issue and the gov of WA had a chat with the warp speed guy, Azar at HHS is MIA
 
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