Why are my flowers maturing so slow

Bukvičák

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its these in my r&d lab they did really well. So I went for 4 rooms of 12 each
Nice ones! Hes 60x60... I see small difference thou
 

getogrow

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I did not noticed that. But noticed fakin with nitrogen during flower definitely affects time of flowering so nuts can do that IMO...
Maybe an OD of N will delay it but mostly it will just fuck it all up. Foxtails and new growth ect.... I have yet to see overusing N actually "slow down" the flower process completely. Older blurples and cfl's and other low light factors are the only thing i have ever seen completely slow down the process to a crawl. (im talking fairly healthy plants)
 

Skyhound

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Maybe an OD of N will delay it but mostly it will just fuck it all up. Foxtails and new growth ect.... I have yet to see overusing N actually "slow down" the flower process completely. Older blurples and cfl's and other low light factors are the only thing i have ever seen completely slow down the process to a crawl. (im talking fairly healthy plants)
what about the opossite to much powerful leds , could they slow down maturation and destroy potency ?
 

Bukvičák

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Maybe an OD of N will delay it but mostly it will just fuck it all up. Foxtails and new growth ect.... I have yet to see overusing N actually "slow down" the flower process completely. Older blurples and cfl's and other low light factors are the only thing i have ever seen completely slow down the process to a crawl. (im talking fairly healthy plants)
Agreed about that N totally...
 

Bukvičák

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what about the opossite to much powerful leds , could they slow down maturation and destroy potency ?
Look, the whole thing is a litlle bit complicated. You can easily use high power LED with PPFD over 1000 or 1200 but than you need a lot of things fine tuned like CO2 with hand in hand with higher temps, RH according to that with VPD chart and nutrients regime must be also like a PRO (talking about Ca issues). If one thing is not in check than the plant can not withstand the amount of light and have hard times which can be stresfull. And stressed plant obviously matures longer. About the potency... did not do any research but if your light stress the plant than it can make damage to trichromes as well. Thats the reason why you should take your buds on a dark cold place. Also when you dry them. Just do not get blue, your plant is looking great and for sure it gonna be a good smoke too. Good luck
 

getogrow

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Look, the whole thing is a litlle bit complicated. You can easily use high power LED with PPFD over 1000 or 1200 but than you need a lot of things fine tuned like CO2 with hand in hand with higher temps, RH according to that with VPD chart and nutrients regime must be also like a PRO (talking about Ca issues). If one thing is not in check than the plant can not withstand the amount of light and have hard times which can be stresfull. And stressed plant obviously matures longer. About the potency... did not do any research but if your light stress the plant than it can make damage to trichromes as well. Thats the reason why you should take your buds on a dark cold place. Also when you dry them. Just do not get blue, your plant is looking great and for sure it gonna be a good smoke too. Good luck
This post nails it all! very knowledgable.

But yeah if youre talking about crap lights than youre right...
Yes, i was only talking about the super cheapest junk on the led market. ("4000" watts for 29 bucks, ect....) My research on that subject mostly comes from cfl's though. before leds were a thing. it was just the lack of intensity that would turn an 8 week pheno into a 16 weeks pheno....but during that 16 weeks , it looked "normal" as it grew.....by week 7 it had lots of hairs and was just starting to form bud as to where normal folks were almost done at week 7. fully ripe at week 8 , some take it to 9 or 10.
Ive seen that mostly on this forum but a seen a couple in real life with same results. i gave my brother a 9 week strain and it took him to week 11 to even look like weed.....by week 16 , it was big , giant buds of trash. no trichs. Well , im exaggerating ....it was ok i guess. He was using a amazon 49 dollar led "2000 watts" in a 4x4 tent.

I have literally never seen a plant take that much longer under any light i have ever used. (mh ,. hps, cmh, led) I have always been lucky with getting good genetics into the room and i dont play with a bunch of pheno's at once , i only do a couple. So i have way less experience with 100's of genetics like some on here who switch phenos every grow or three. ive only done about 20 or 30 phenos my whole life. 20+ years of growing dope.
 

Skyhound

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Look, the whole thing is a litlle bit complicated. You can easily use high power LED with PPFD over 1000 or 1200 but than you need a lot of things fine tuned like CO2 with hand in hand with higher temps, RH according to that with VPD chart and nutrients regime must be also like a PRO (talking about Ca issues). If one thing is not in check than the plant can not withstand the amount of light and have hard times which can be stresfull. And stressed plant obviously matures longer. About the potency... did not do any research but if your light stress the plant than it can make damage to trichromes as well. Thats the reason why you should take your buds on a dark cold place. Also when you dry them. Just do not get blue, your plant is looking great and for sure it gonna be a good smoke too. Good luck
I didnt add co2 , but my temperatures were very stable the whole growth at 23c / 74.4 F . I mean what could i do next, move it to 40/45cm and dimm it like 10/20% ??? im with fear with growing with this leds if the reason for lack of potency is that,
 

getogrow

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I didnt add co2 , but my temperatures were very stable the whole growth at 23c / 74.4 F . I mean what could i do next, move it to 40/45cm and dimm it like 10/20% ??? im with fear with growing with this leds if the reason for lack of potency is that,
Why do you even think that the potency is not there ?

The led guys say that 74f is too cold .... shoot for 83-85f. Read into vpd.
If you are just looking for a conformation that the plants are done , then you will not get that here on this website. No matter what , they are going to say two more weeks.
Its done now and why do you think its not potent ??!
 

Skyhound

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Why do you even think that the potency is not there ?

The led guys say that 74f is too cold .... shoot for 83-85f. Read into vpd.
If you are just looking for a conformation that the plants are done , then you will not get that here on this website. No matter what , they are going to say two more weeks.
Its done now and why do you think its not potent ??!
I tried samples both fro quick dr methods and naturally dry methods , 0 buzz
 

Skyhound

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Why do you even think that the potency is not there ?

The led guys say that 74f is too cold .... shoot for 83-85f. Read into vpd.
If you are just looking for a conformation that the plants are done , then you will not get that here on this website. No matter what , they are going to say two more weeks.
Its done now and why do you think its not potent ??!
im now just tring to discover what i did wrong so i can grow again without fear of lossing crop
 

getogrow

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im now just tring to discover what i did wrong so i can grow again without fear of lossing crop
do you have a journal ? i dont think you did that much wrong at all. The plants im seeing look pretty good. It "looks " fine overall. The zero buzz thing is in your head. Wait till a bud is dried proper an let someone unbiased try it. i bet its way better then you think. "losing your crop" is the last thing i would be worried about.... improving maybe but you didnt almost lose your crop ....its not near that bad is it ?
 

Skyhound

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do you have a journal ? i dont think you did that much wrong at all. The plants im seeing look pretty good. It "looks " fine overall. The zero buzz thing is in your head. Wait till a bud is dried proper an let someone unbiased try it. i bet its way better then you think. "losing your crop" is the last thing i would be worried about.... improving maybe but you didnt almost lose your crop ....its not near that bad is it ?
well if it doesnt get me high is bad , i just want now to know what went wrong
 

Bukvičák

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IMo you just put your light too close. I see the signs on the whole plant, that why I was asking what happened to her. It is not pH it is not Mg it is just light bleach. Start your light in 70cm and go lower every week by 5cm, when you start to see issues than go 5cm higher and this is your distance. But i doubt you do not have manual where it should be written in a chart for each phase of plants life. So follow it!
 

Bukvičák

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This post nails it all! very knowledgable.


Yes, i was only talking about the super cheapest junk on the led market. ("4000" watts for 29 bucks, ect....) My research on that subject mostly comes from cfl's though. before leds were a thing. it was just the lack of intensity that would turn an 8 week pheno into a 16 weeks pheno....but during that 16 weeks , it looked "normal" as it grew.....by week 7 it had lots of hairs and was just starting to form bud as to where normal folks were almost done at week 7. fully ripe at week 8 , some take it to 9 or 10.
Ive seen that mostly on this forum but a seen a couple in real life with same results. i gave my brother a 9 week strain and it took him to week 11 to even look like weed.....by week 16 , it was big , giant buds of trash. no trichs. Well , im exaggerating ....it was ok i guess. He was using a amazon 49 dollar led "2000 watts" in a 4x4 tent.

I have literally never seen a plant take that much longer under any light i have ever used. (mh ,. hps, cmh, led) I have always been lucky with getting good genetics into the room and i dont play with a bunch of pheno's at once , i only do a couple. So i have way less experience with 100's of genetics like some on here who switch phenos every grow or three. ive only done about 20 or 30 phenos my whole life. 20+ years of growing dope.
Exactly, potency is trippin with these table lamps. Noisy as hell and claiming 4000W sometimes thats funny...
 
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