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Genetics question

Jimbo the Gael

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You clearly have never had a situation that requires intelligence and you certainly haven't learnt genetics to understand what your saying or think yourself adept in a conversation about it.

If you were right we would see as we do with EVERY breedable trait a pattern we could use to produce a new line of seeds.

You have nothing but words, I have every breeding from fifty years showing it's not a breedable trait. Ignore that at your own stupidity.
Just going to ignore you. Enjoy yelling at the wall.
You remind me of Kingrow1.
 

NanoGadget

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You clearly have never had a situation that requires intelligence and you certainly haven't learnt genetics to understand what your saying or think yourself adept in a conversation about it.

If you were right we would see as we do with EVERY breedable trait a pattern we could use to produce a new line of seeds.

You have nothing but words, I have every breeding from fifty years showing it's not a breedable trait. Ignore that at your own stupidity.
You keep saying, in every thread you've been in about this topic, "there is no herm stable strain, if you get herms grow an easier strain". OK great!
What set of phenotypical and morphological traits within a cannabis plant would qualify that variety as 'easier'?
How does said strain come by those traits?
 

BBQtoast

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You keep saying, in every thread you've been in about this topic, "there is no herm stable strain, if you get herms grow an easier strain". OK great!
What set of phenotypical and morphological traits within a cannabis plant would qualify that variety as 'easier'?
How does said strain come by those traits?
Would have to guess that as the trigger is stress and not a sexual or breedable trait.

You cannot come by those traits just like you cannot affect a lot of genetic material in the plant, you can't breed for chlorophyl colour or stoma size or a lot of other stuff that is always pre programmed in because it spent millions of years of evolution making this so.

Breeding traits is easy, you want orange or lemon flavour, sat or indica? Fucking no problem give me a sec, you want Herm stable strains - cannot be done and I cannot breed and get a result other than its wild state which is genetically predispositioned to Herm with stress.

If you want proof try it for ten years, see if you can breed that trait, nobody else ever has managed even with the most intensive breeding schemes, actually gave up. Their dreams of new copyrighted strains went up in a puff of smoke.
 

NanoGadget

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Would have to guess that as the trigger is stress and not a sexual or breedable trait.

You cannot come by those traits just like you cannot affect a lot of genetic material in the plant, you can't breed for chlorophyl colour or stoma size or a lot of other stuff that is always pre programmed in because it spent millions of years of evolution making this so.

Breeding traits is easy, you want orange or lemon flavour, sat or indica? Fucking no problem give me a sec, you want Herm stable strains - cannot be done and I cannot breed and get a result other than its wild state which is genetically predispositioned to Herm with stress.

If you want proof try it for ten years, see if you can breed that trait, nobody else ever has managed even with the most intensive breeding schemes, actually gave up. Their dreams of new copyrighted strains went up in a puff of smoke.
Ok... thats about all I needed to hear. You don't know a tenth as much as you think you do about genetics and selective breeding. Go pawn your unsupported opinions off on the the uneducated and inexperienced because I'm not having it. Bye now.
 

pulpoinspace

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Ok... thats about all I needed to hear. You don't know a tenth as much as you think you do about genetics and selective breeding. Go pawn your unsupported opinions off on the the uneducated and inexperienced because I'm not having it. Bye now.
Managing a reaction score less than the number of messages he's sent in his short tenure should be a good barometer.
 

BBQtoast

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Ok... thats about all I needed to hear. You don't know a tenth as much as you think you do about genetics and selective breeding. Go pawn your unsupported opinions off on the the uneducated and inexperienced because I'm not having it. Bye now.
I know your not, clearly cannot explain and use your best guess instead.

Bye, why were all waiting for you and the Herm stable breeders to show us the goods. None of us want Herm problems and you say you have the answers and breeding knowledge to solve this forever.

Money where your mouth is, words aren't going to cut it, show proof, any time you feel like it?
 

BBQtoast

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Managing a reaction score less than the number of messages he's sent in his short tenure should be a good barometer.
Not sure there's any breeding to back your argument up, there should be if your right. I suppose you read some more Herm threads and realized again you haven't got a bean!

Why reply, produce a Herm free strain for every new grower, they certainly ask for one, why you think these threads happen.

When you fail all you can do isattack, you look so bad when all I asked is you produce what your saying is real.

Still waiting for anything but words!
 

pulpoinspace

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Not sure there's any breeding to back your argument up, there should be if your right. I suppose you read some more Herm threads and realized again you haven't got a bean!

Why reply, produce a Herm free strain for every new grower, they certainly ask for one, why you think these threads happen.

When you fail all you can do isattack, you look so bad when all I asked is you produce what your saying is real.

Still waiting for anything but words!
to be honest man, knowing you 72 hours now you're not a pleasure to interact with. This is a forum for growers to discuss their experiences. "Words" are primarily what you're gonna find. I get that you've been in the industry a while and you don't give a fuck what other people think. It shows. You know it all and everyone else is stupid. So why are you here?

This will be my final response to you on this or any topic: I am not a breeder. Never claimed to be. Never claimed that producing a plant that cannot herm without chemical intervention is possible. I have no idea if it is. That's our argument in a nutshell. I say that something might be possible, and you're saying without a doubt 100% it's not possible without any evidence whatsoever. My experience is that some plants hermie more than others, and those plants should not be used for breeding. You've agreed with this principle in multiple posts like the one I quoted above.

I wish you all the best man. I can tell that you have some valuable information to share I just find your delivery unbearable.
 
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