light rail

[fred flintstoned]

My 2 cents:
The ac may not be necessary. Aircooling and good ventilation/air exchange should do the trick. Try to avoid the ac unit if at all possible. They use alot of power(my 10500btu unit uses 1100watts).I would set up with just lights and fans first and closely monitor temps. Although you can get lights much closer with aircooled hoods, you may not need to use them at all.
As to coverage, Manufacturers say 600"s "cover" 4x4. Maybe so, but an area 40"x40"(1sq meter) will be covered very efficiently. This will result in a much more even canopy.
Happy Trails
FF

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

so i went to the hydro store today ... 1000w + air cooled hood= 150$ + bulb= 60-200$ 4' light rail =105$. not as much $$ as i thought .... my area is 4'w x 7'L x 8'T

i cant find any trays 4x7
would it be a better idea to have one tray or 2???
how many plants could i fit and what would be my yeild???????????
i was thinking 3 sets of 10 plants ever 3weeks apart= 30 plants. every 3 weeks harvest once i get going.....
tell me what you guys think about this idea???

check out Stinkbuds thread on aero/nft harvest a lb every 3 weeks.

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

Yea fred i agree, i think 2 600 watters would be just fine for a 5x6 garden,, and that is great advice to just monitor the ventilation. check out my room log.


https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/123213-dirthawkers-flower-room-start-finish.html

 

[Seamaiden]

Dang, Timmy, that sounds like a sweet deal, just on the light and hood.

 

[holmes]

for the guy with the small room, i wouldnt use light movers if you were gonna start with two lights, unless you dont mind splurging.

as far as the ac, it gives you better control of the room temps, and it helps keep humidity down, when on. plus no worries of smells drifting out by accident. but yes, they use lots of electricity, but if your room is well insulated, and the lights are air cooled, the ac wont be running full time, and you can always run the op at night when temps are at the coolest.

my thoughts on a light rail, i would use a 1000w on a max of 4' rail. its a short distance, youll get the benefit of light from different angles, reduced hot spots, and youll gain an extra foot or two on your grow space. best for sog i think.

good luck guys

 

[timmmy2021]

so i hot the light and air cooled hood 150$ i need a bulb and a mover. can any one give me any addvice on what type of set up i should use? hydro soil airo???? i have a hydro spinner system right now but i would like to use a flood and drain system . i think their the easyest ??????

 

[panhead]

Im currently running 1 6ft mover & 3 4ft movers & just started my 3rd full grow running them,if your plan is to increase grow area your in for a dissapointment,movers are best used for getting penetration to all areas of the grow op every day.

In a stationary grow op the plants on the sides get much less light,with a mover the side plants get more light causing heavier & more dense buds,you'll gain more weight using movers without increasing the grow area than if you do increrase the area,increased area normally means lanky & stretched plants.

 

[timmmy2021]

really????? hm

 

[Seamaiden]

Im currently running 1 6ft mover & 3 4ft movers & just started my 3rd full grow running them,if your plan is to increase grow area your in for a dissapointment,movers are best used for getting penetration to all areas of the grow op every day.

In a stationary grow op the plants on the sides get much less light,with a mover the side plants get more light causing heavier & more dense buds,you'll gain more weight using movers without increasing the grow area than if you do increrase the area,increased area normally means lanky & stretched plants.

This makes sense, and gets more to what I've been aiming at, mentally (trying to sort out the how of the what). I can't remember how many lights you said you have on your rig.

 

[panhead]

This makes sense, and gets more to what I've been aiming at, mentally (trying to sort out the how of the what). I can't remember how many lights you said you have on your rig.

Howdy,my current set up's are running 2,200 watts in the bud room,since my abscense ive scaled back to a single bud room & a clone/mother room,in the bud room im running a single 1,000 watt HPS in tandem with a 6ft mover in the center of the room,on each side im running a 600 watt HPS light in tandem with a 4ft mover on each light,the movers are timed so that when the 1,000 watt light is at the south end of the room both 600 watter's are at the north end,this gives me max penetration with what light im running,in the clone/mother room im running a single 400 watt HPS along with a 4ft mover.

Due to the fact that all 3 lights meet in the center of the canopy & deliver more light to those plants i rotate all the plants every 2 days when i visit the grow op's.

I cant wait till our doc writes both the MRS & myself the paperwork for us to become legit,we have an appointment with our doc next wednesday to discuss it

 

[timmmy2021]

what what???? legit?how?

 

[panhead]

what what???? legit?how?

Legal medical Marijuana useage has been voted in for sick people in my state of Michigan,my wife has Multiple Sclorosis & i was burned over 12% of my body with 3rd degree burns & also broke my back years earlier,we have other medical issues as well but you get the point,both of us see the same pain management doctor that ive used for over 20 years,we'll easily meet the standards of qualification outlined in the state law.

 

[timmmy2021]

Medical Marijuana is now legal in Michigan & im done skulking around,my name is Levi & i grow & use weed daily.



got it thanks.

 

[Seamaiden]

I cant wait till our doc writes both the MRS & myself the paperwork for us to become legit,we have an appointment with our doc next wednesday to discuss it

Congratulations on your shiny new law, Levi. Thanks for the information.

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

Whats your guys thought on the best configuration?

 

[panhead]

Configuration #1 cant be used with all light movers,to use it the travel needs to be regulated ,with the cheaper model movers it is not possible as the mover is on a continuous loop around the track.

Member filthyfletch has a diagram somewhere around here showing how to set up a mover in a side by side configuration for the economy model movers like mine.

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

Thanks panhead,, so are you saying that the side by side configuration would be the best like in example 2?

my garden is a certain number of plants and i wont be increasing. the perimeter will stay the same and of course i hope to keep the plants between 2-3 ft tall, perpetuall harvest aero setup.

Ive seen plans to modify the rail in both setups. I just want opinions on which would cover the garden better.

 

[peacey]

I am currently lucky enough to be growing in a set up with two stationary 600s over six plants and two 600s on light movers with 12 plants. Medium size indica dominant strains. I know obviously the stationary 600 plants are going to do better than the 12. I am happy with the idea of doubling the amount of plants in flowering as well. Watching with a tested patience to see the results. I do believe I will either add another light to be moved with the other 2 600s or shorten the distance of the motion and add one more stationary. The way the basement is set up, we do not have a lot of play room on the ceiling- so we have to choose our spots wisely with a limited situation- old house new wiring There is this little gap between the stationary lights and the mover area that needs to be connect with light by like 1 foot. Well, I will hopefully let you all know how it all turns out.

Peacey

 

[peacey]

Oh,
I am using figure number 2 for the record. If you are not trying to increase your grow area and are going to be using the same number of plants I would go with number 1. That is of course as long as your plants are going to be 3 feet tall and you having enough space between the light and the tops (at least a foot in a controlled temp). If you end up growing taller plants go with fig number 2 and put the tall plants in the middle of the lights so the top is not right under the hot spot of the bulb. Other wise if the plants are in the ZONE - put them right under the bulbs in figure 1 - again as long as temp is not an issue and remember to check the surface temp of the leaf - not just overall room temp. See how there are can be so many right and or wrong answers in this? It is all a matter of Zen - word? Gotta see or feel what is going on in the moment and for anyone anywhere the moment can be different- yet right. Word? Ya feel me?

 

[peacey]

Wow,

Just saw how long it had been since anyone posted on these comments. Any word on the issue. Any results?


Word?