This isn't over.

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Trump signed the bill! Surprise! :lol: I didn't think he would sign it.

Less of a burden for Joe!
But he red lined things he want's taken out He can then claim victory if they do, if they don't take them out what happens?

"I will sign the Omnibus and Covid package with a strong message that makes clear to Congress that wasteful items need to be removed. I will send back to Congress a redlined version, item by item, accompanied by the formal rescission request to Congress insisting that those funds be removed from the bill," he wrote.

 

hanimmal

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But he red lined things he want's taken out He can then claim victory if they do, if they don't take them out what happens?

"I will sign the Omnibus and Covid package with a strong message that makes clear to Congress that wasteful items need to be removed. I will send back to Congress a redlined version, item by item, accompanied by the formal rescission request to Congress insisting that those funds be removed from the bill," he wrote.

The biggest source of government waste will be removed on Jan 20th 2021.
 

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The biggest source of government waste will be removed on Jan 20th 2021.
Sure. But if the bill is not passed because Trump lined out things that the senators will not stomach? I don't mind seeing it all fall apart politically but it does have repercussions in the real world. Ultimately we can just wait and see.
 

hanimmal

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Sure. But if the bill is not passed because Trump lined out things that the senators will not stomach? I don't mind seeing it all fall apart politically but it does have repercussions in the real world. Ultimately we can just wait and see.
Oh, you actually believed the liar? He is a troll, and will say anything and everything about wanting racist army bases and whatever it is that Putin wants him to stomp his feet about, but if it is signed I am pretty sure it no longer matters what Trump wants. He can sharpie it up all he wants, but I don't think it actually matters.

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Just like him altering this scientific chart because he messed up when he was running his mouth didn't actually change what the hurricane did.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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But he red lined things he want's taken out He can then claim victory if they do, if they don't take them out what happens?

"I will sign the Omnibus and Covid package with a strong message that makes clear to Congress that wasteful items need to be removed. I will send back to Congress a redlined version, item by item, accompanied by the formal rescission request to Congress insisting that those funds be removed from the bill," he wrote.

Trump has no line item veto, it's all or nothing.
 

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Trump has no line item veto, it's all or nothing.
I never heard that the president has one but I am just a casual observer and do not know what they did in 1887 or whatever. It is good to know he does not, would be funny if he did not know the fact. He probably did it as a way to keep the donations coming in. "Our President is not a quitter." "Not like that Vice President."

Which has the duty to count the Electoral votes on Jan 6. But there is now a lawsuit against the VP .

Leading New Texas Rebellion, Louie Gohmert Sues Mike Pence Because VP Lacks Authority to Overturn Joe Biden’s Election Win

A Texas hardliner is once again leading a post-election rebellion against the future Joe Biden presidency.

Led by Lone Star State Rep. Louie Gohmert, a coalition of outgoing President Donald Trump’s right-wing loyalists asked a federal judge on Sunday to gut a post-Reconstruction era law in order give Vice President Mike Pence the power to determine the winner of the 2020 presidential election on Jan. 6, 2021.

Gohmert’s cohorts include ex-“Kraken” plaintiff Tyler Bowyer and the Arizona Republican Party’s chairwoman Kelli Ward, whose call for Trump to #CrossTheRubicon was widely interpreted as pining for the president to establish dictatorship just like Julius Caesar did.

Through a creative reading of the 12th Amendment, Gohmert’s brigade contends the Constitution empowers Pence to ignore a statute making his work ministerial and select “competing slates of Presidential Electors.” The lawsuit, which was filed against Pence in his official capacity as vice president, is based on outright falsehoods—there are no “competing electors”—and an absurd misreading of federal law that would let the VP unilaterally decide the outcome of his own election.

Trump and his acolytes have called for Pence to block Biden’s victory by rejecting the certificates of votes in states Trump lost. Gohmert and his cohorts take this theory a giant step further, asserting that the Electoral Count Act of 1887 (ECA) violates the Twelfth Amendment by not allowing the VP to count uncertified votes cast by Trump’s slate of “shadow electors.”

According to the lawsuit, the Vice President “may exercise the exclusive authority and sole discretion in determining which electoral votes to count for a given state, and must ignore and may not rely on any provisions of the Electoral Count Act that would limit his exclusive authority and his sole discretion to determine the count, which could include votes from the slates of Republican electors from the Contested States.”

It further contends that the Electoral Count Act “limits or eliminates [the Vice President’s] exclusive authority and sole discretion under the Twelfth Amendment to determine which slates of electors for a State, or neither, may be counted.”

These assertions are simply false. The election results in every U.S. state have already been certified and the Electoral College votes for Biden have already been cast. There is absolutely no constitutional provision allowing for states to have “competing” or “alternate” slates of electors. The “votes” those groups sent to Congress do not have any legal authority.

As Law&Crime explained in a previous post, the Twelfth Amendment only dictates that the VP, as president of the Senate, “open all the certificates” and nothing more.

In fact, the Electoral Count Act, which describes the process for counting Electoral College votes, was specifically enacted to “drain away as much power as possible from the Senate President,” according to DePaul University Law School professor Stephen A. Siegel, who specializes in legal history and constitutional law.

“With the opening of the votes, the Senate President has reached the end of his constitutional role in the presidential election process,” he wrote.

The complaint further seeks an injunction prohibiting enforcement of any ECA provision limiting Pence’s “exclusive authority and his sole discretion to determine which of two or more competing slates of electors’ votes are to be counted for President.”

U.S. District Judge Jeremy Kernodle, an appointee of President Donald Trump will preside over the case in the Eastern District of Texas.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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tRUmp and his supporters are insane.


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Hey it's the passion of the Cheeto, we are in the future Holy days, the time before of his downfall, soon it will be the crucifixion! :lol: There will be a future church of Cheeto Jesus, Elvis has his own religion too. They shoulda had Mitch driving in the spikes though and the stars and bars for a diaper.

Note the 2' level beside the painting for scale. I'm betting the artist did it for profit and an easy market can be found on places like the parlor. Shit if an artist needed cash, they'd paint this trash and reproduce them too. Many people are going to be making cash off the Trumpers for years to come, they are pre approved suckers FFS. Money would be falling into your hands with this crap, most of the people producing it probably hate Trump's guts, but MAGATS will eat that shit right up. Better they get the money than Trump.
 

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Hey it's the passion of the Cheeto, Many people are going to be making cash off the Trumpers for years to come, they are pre approved suckers FFS. Money would be falling into your hands with this crap, most of the people producing it probably hate Trump's guts, but MAGATS will eat that shit right up. Better they get the money than Trump.
Cheeto will want his cut. You know what he is like about his brand. If it is selling his Name no one is about to get a free ride.
 

captainmorgan

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Stinky's goons have been evicted LOL, another excuse for them to whine nonstop.


 

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One more step on accountability in the future. Probably go to the SC though.

Appeals court rules congressional minority has standing to enforce investigative demands
A federal appeals court on Tuesday ruled that congressional oversight committee members in the minority can sue to enforce requests for government information.

A three-judge panel for the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 in favor of a group of House Democrats on the Oversight and Reform Committee who had sought information from the General Services Administration (GSA) about the government's lease of the Old Post Office building in D.C. to the Trump Organization to house the Trump International Hotel.

The majority found that groups of lawmakers charged with oversight have standing to bring lawsuits to enforce their requests for information even if they don't constitute a majority on their committee. The ruling affirms subpoena-like power for groups of Oversight committee members of at least seven in the House and five in the Senate.

The two-judge majority ruled that the House members in the case had shown that they suffered harm from the GSA's refusal to comply with their demands that could be redressed by a court.

"It is concrete—the request was made and straightforwardly denied; the Requesters have been and remain empty-handed," Judge Patricia Millett, an Obama appointee, wrote for the majority. "The injury is personal and particularized to the Requesters themselves, not to any other legislators, to a legislative body, or even to their Committee seats."

 

Herb & Suds

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Stinky's goons have been evicted LOL, another excuse for them to whine nonstop.


When did they need a reason?
 

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Michael Cohen predicts people Trump pardoned may testify against him


President Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen suggested Monday that recent recipients of presidential pardons may turn on Trump and be forced to testify against him due to their lack of Fifth Amendment protection.
“This produces a very significant problem for Donald Trump, in that once you get that pardon, you’re no longer able to invoke the Fifth Amendment ... because you cannot be charged. All of these people may ultimately be his downfall simply because they’ll be testifying against him,” Cohen said while speaking with MSNBC's Ari Melber.

Democrats like Rep. Bill Pascrell (N.J.) have recently called for Trump to face criminal investigations over his use of power in office as well as his personal business dealings after his term ends.

 

captainmorgan

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The Biden transition team has been blocked with meeting with the Department of Defense since 12/18, sounds like sedition to me, charge these MFer's.
 
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