Is the legalization of Marijuana really worth it?

Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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Nug of the Land said:
Okay i apologize 4 my last post, yes people do grow tobacco, but as 4 y i dnt want 2 b smoking tar in my weed that i buy in the future, i dnt want 2 b breathing in all that shit. i want clean THC filled smoke.
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Tobacco is naturally loaded with tar and other bad stuff. It's true that companies have endeavored to make it more addictive. It's also true tobacco needs little help when it comes to addictiveness.

There are commercially available cigarettes completely devoid of additives. Why would cannabis be different?
Nug of the Land said:
plus it will put alot of ppl out of buisness(including myself) and ruin a cities economy (Amsterdam).
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Boo fucking hoo! Scumbag dealers lose part of their illegal business taking advantage of suckers who have little choice but to deal with the black market. The smart dealers will legitimize along with cannabis when it is re-legalized.

As for Amsterdam, who gives a fat rat's ass? No offense to Amsterdam, but I don't live there. I'm more concerned with the economy here which will benefit from re-legalization.

I suppose that to you, it's far better to continue to ruin lives by maintaining prohibition on a harmless plant. The many continue to suffer for the benefit of the few. That's Bullshit!
Nug of the Land said:
Oh and by the man i mean big brother, the govn, the corporation
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The Man. The great boogeyman of the disaffected. The Man you speak of is alive and doing quite well right now. Always has been and always will be.
 
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Drtysciety

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It should be legalized and if the government makes us pay alot for it and taxes the shit out of it it wont matter for me cause i already just grow my own so i dont really care about the money issue. but if it was legal then people would not have to hide their plants and weed so it would make it alot eaisier.
 
gnarlywabba

gnarlywabba

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Pot.. Weed.. Chronic.. Ganja.. whatever you wanna call it, it should be legal. I havent read all of the comments but on the first couple pages i read that someone believes its the pharmaceutical companies, i dont really feel like going back to quote him so if you care that much then just look, but they are closer to the truth than they think. People seem to believe that there is actual weed out there called "Medical Marijuana" this is a common misconception. Medical marijuana does not come in the form that you may think, no, this comes in the form of a pill known as Marinol. Marinol is a synthetic Delta 9 THC. They say that its the same exact thing as smoking a joint, except its a controlled amount of THC. WRONG, ive said it before, its not just one chemical in the plant, its not just the cannabinoid THC, theres also THCV, CBD, CBN, CBL.. theres a ton of them. Now, when you smoke weed, these cannabinoids will go straight to your nerve endings and coat the tip of a nerve ending. This causes a chemical reaction, which is what causes the euphoric feeling and the decreased reaction time.. the feelings you get from the cannabinoids on the nerve endings is what makes you "high." Now, that being said, why do you think pharmaceutical companies made this pill?? well quite simply.. they know it works. Fortunately, due to patent laws, pharmacies cant put a patent on a plant that grows naturally, they cant say "I invented pot" so therefore nobody gets money for it. Pharmaceutical companies are all about making money.. why let us have something that would potentially make their business nose dive? it makes perfect sense what they are doing, but at the same time, to the common man, it dosent make sense in the aspect of.. why not let a country that is "ruled by the people" have this medical masterpiece and in most cases save some money. That alone could put a big dent in the crisis of americans with no health insurance and cant get anything to help them out with simple issues such as a headache or a back pain. I wont put everything in one message for right now, that would defeat the purpose of a discussion board, but i will say that its not just the pharmaceuticals that are gunning for it to stay illegal.. your every day dealer is praying it stays illegal..
 
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reefercc

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Safety, health, children. the bullshit list goes on for miles. This is no more than prohibition, If you want to end the violence and threat to our children you have to legalize freedom, obesity is Americas biggest killer, so while we wait for Twinkies to become illegal lets take a look at our rights here in the states. Marijuana prohibition and ALL drug prohibition is what is fueling the fires on the streets. "scum bag" dealers are thought of this way because they cant get franchise deals for protected territories like Mcdumbass so not many attorneys will take the case, it has to be settled in the street court like alcohol prohibition was. This is its biggest danger to society. so fuck society and give me back the right to grow my own and ingest it any way i want. We have over 1 million minor children in this country selling weed, knock the profit out of it and you will see that number drop drastically.

In just a couple of weeks over a third of this country will have legal medicinal cannabis. I am proud as hell of my 70 year old mother for voting yes on prop 1 in michigan. this is the same woman who kicked me out of the house when i was 16 for smoking pot. The precieved harm of marijuana is based on an unfounded fear built and distibuted for what ever reason you want to believe by a government that has forgotten that we the people are supposed live free. we have to remind them.

This is not now and never has been about ilegal smoke, its about our rights and until we see it that way and vote accordingly we will never have our rights back or "legal" weed.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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There has been an extreme weed shortage where I live since labor day. 2 months we've been busting ass to fit little bits of shitty weed if any at all. I had quit cigarettes in May, but the lack of weed has driven me back to cigarettes. Weed is far less damaging that cigarettes. If we don't start being able to get some weed I'm going to kill someone.
 
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prie

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FromTheBong said:
I think even if they did legalize bud it would still be illegal to cultivate. Just like it is with alcohol
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You need to remember thought that you can actually make your own wine, beer, liquour, and such. The way the laws work, least here in Texas, is that you cannot sell. If you wanted to give it to your friends that is okay, but you cannot give them it in return for something. Its a lot like you are having a BBQ and your allowed to share your home brew, I do, but if your friend wants more than a few especially if he wants to take some home, HE CAN'T.
 
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fdd2blk

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there is a flood of weed in cali right now. no one is buying or selling because everyone is high. when weed becomes legal it will be everywhere and no one will care anymore. weed is no big deal around here. you say "i have some weed" and people say "so".
 
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miggzeh

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FromTheBong said:
I think even if they did legalize bud it would still be illegal to cultivate. Just like it is with alcohol
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Its perfectly legal to brew your own beer, make your own wine and spirits.

Its not legal to do it for commercial reasons without a license.

at least in Australia and the U.K.
 
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reefercc

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Prohibitive laws that do not protect, cause crime. it has nothing to do with "makes darky think he is as good as a white man" The racist lies told about MJ are to scare a population that likes to be scared and will spend money so we feel safe. ask yourselves this, what has the government done that works? and then ask yourself how many times the government blames us for their plan not working.

It has nothing to do with morality, they say its a moral issue but there is nothing immoral about smoking weed or the things that being relaxed "high" makes you do, if that were the case prohibition of alcohol would still be around.

Wake up, its your rights you are fighting for and we have the numbers, we just have to organize as one people and change it. most of the problem to legalizing is people waiting for others to do the work for them, check out leap.cc mpp.org norml.org drugpolicy.org and the list goes on, get involved and bring one person with you and stop letting a run away government tell you how you are going to enjoy your quite evenings at home. we can do this.

Prohibition undermines everything America stood for, freedom in Americas case is just a word, means little to nothing unless a president wants to go to war. demand your rights and remember, all politics are local, do what you can no matter how small and this drug war will end. VOTE
PEACE :peace:
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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You know, what if we reinstated some of those lame reefermadness commercials now. It would show the stupidity of the lies that lead to marijuana being criminalized. Could you imagine the outcry if there was a prime time TV spot that said "reefer, makes darky think he is as good as a white man" . How about the one "reefer, makes white women want to have sex with black men". Those are some of the lies told about marijuana, maybe it's time that all of America gets a history lesson.
 
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reefercc

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Try to find a network without its head up the Govs ass kiss-asswho would air it and you might be onto something. Great idea though.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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FDD, since you're here I have a question, I have a sativa in flower (6 weeks now) It got attacked by spider mites, I treated it and the mites are gone, but the fan leaves are getting a yellow mottled color and are dying off quickly. I've been pulling them off as they die. I hate that most of the fan leaves are gone now, it needs them. Will the buds still grow with this going on?

Do you think this is an after effect of the mites, or is there yet another problem? The plant is starting to get crystals on it, but I really don't think it's anywhere near done. I've done 2 flushes with molasses water, but this last time I went ahead and gave it a shot of 18-24-16 after the flush.
 
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fdd2blk

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misshestermoffitt said:
FDD, since you're here I have a question, I have a sativa in flower (6 weeks now) It got attacked by spider mites, I treated it and the mites are gone, but the fan leaves are getting a yellow mottled color and are dying off quickly. I've been pulling them off as they die. I hate that most of the fan leaves are gone now, it needs them. Will the buds still grow with this going on?

Do you think this is an after effect of the mites, or is there yet another problem? The plant is starting to get crystals on it, but I really don't think it's anywhere near done. I've done 2 flushes with molasses water, but this last time I went ahead and gave it a shot of 18-24-16 after the flush.
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is it yellowing? a little bump of nitrogen may straighten it out. i know "nitrogen during flowering? :o". seems to help for me, though. i give mine nitrogen alllllllll the way to the last feeding. when i start feeding bloom nutes i continue with nitrogen as well but cut it back to half doses. :leaf:
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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It seems like every day there are more yellow leaves, It's going to run out of fan leaves before too long. I hope the bud leaves can collect enough light to finish it out.

Should I remove the lower growth to help the upper growth get more energy? I'm at a loss on this one. I can't give up on it and I must win !
 
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